I have a set of Boscos on order at my LBS, but they're taking forever to
arrive. I hadn't thought about a shorter stem, but based on all your
descriptions, it absolutely makes sense that it might make a difference. You
guys are the best!
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Cecily,
My general rule when making changes is to change one thing at a time and
see how that works, then isolate what still needs to be changed. Of course,
I break that rule far too often, but it sure makes cause and effect easier
to sort. So I'd start with the Boscos, see how they go, and
What he said.
Cheers,
David
it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Cecily,
My general rule when making changes is to change one thing at a time and
see how that works, then isolate what still needs
This is my Batavus: https://flic.kr/p/8RBm2N (may she rest in peace)
The wheelbase is much longer than the Betty Foy, and the seat tube angle is
more slack, so when I'm on it I'm in a sit up and beg position, similar
to this: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mindcaster-ezzolicious/6476153325/
That's very interesting, Garth! I've made an appointment for a bike fitting
at the sports physiotherapist. I'll mention this to him and see what he has
to say.
On Saturday, May 17, 2014 6:13:58 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
I'd go with shorter cranks, like a 152mm or less . I'm one to
Cecily: I hope you solve the problem and get to ride the BF comfortably.
I've often wondered whether the very slack seat tube angles (contributing
to the extremely bolt upright position on Dutch and old English city bikes
-- very short top tubes or at least effective top tubes, bars coming back
Cecily, thanks for the photos, that clarifies the differences very well !
It's obvious the Dutch bike has a much higher front-of-frame than the the
Betty . And the seat and heat tube angles must be like 65 degrees or so.
Having seen both, I can see why you're not comfortable on the Betty.
To clarify, not only the seat , but the bars can never back as far on a
Betty than on the Dutch bike. The seat and head angles of the frame are
just too different and the Betty was never meant to be Dutch-like . Make
sense ? You know , don't try to make a banana and apple ;)
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Yes, it absolutely makes sense. I know you can't really compare the two
styles, and as I said in another message, I don't want to be as upright as
I was on the Dutch bike, because that position is really inefficient when
you live in a city as hilly as Vancouver. But there were certain things
Garth nailed it pretty well. From this photo
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cecily/9578404571 I would only add that it
looks like you can put on a much shorter stem, and get some bars that don't
go as far forward before looping back. That combo could get you more
upright, but not as much as your
The Bosco bar with a short and high stem like this Soma
http://www.yellowjersey.org/stemz.html would help, and I was going to
suggest that , but then I saw the photos of the Dutch bike and I kinda
doubted it would be close enough still. I think the thing to do is to
measure the virtual
A high rise 1 to 1 1/8 threadless adapter with one of those no extension
stems people use on fixed gear freestyle bikes would help get the bars back as
well.
-J
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I'd go with shorter cranks, like a 152mm or less . I'm one to question
every recommendation based on tradition or someone else's experience.
Does this work for me ? That's all that matters.
The shorter the crank, the less range of motion required to rotate the
circle of spinning.
+1. I'm not understanding why you think Betty can't be as upright as your
dutch bike? How do you know that?
With abandon,
Patrick
On Friday, May 16, 2014 10:05:40 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:
Cecily,
You mentioned getting upright like a dutch bike. I don't know if that will
solve the problem,
I am so sorry to hear that, Cecily! That's no fun at all.
It would help to have a side photo of your current setup and if you know
what stem and bars you have to share that. But an initial response is the
Bosco bars come way back and very high, so if your stem is a 25.4 (and it
is if you have
What length of crank are using Cecily ?
The best combo I can think of to get your bars near and high-er is a Bosco
bar and a short stem. Even higher can be had with a VO stem adapter and a
threadless stem with a positive 10,20 or 35 degree angle.
On Friday, May 16, 2014 5:07:43 PM
I am with Patrick, if you need really upright just get a super short 8cm
tech delux stem and bosco bars, you can get the bars about 6 inches over
the saddle that way. Now that might lead to a whole different host of
issues for some people so YMMV.
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Deacon Patrick
Hi Garth,
The crankset is 170mm.
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Cecily, I am so sad to read about your pain and that it is associated with
riding Betty. I've seen pictures of your beautiful bike and patterned my
wife's on it.
What does your physical therapist say? And do you have confidence in
him/her? For many years in my work as an interfaith chaplain
This level of pain is probably best taken care by a sports therapist of some
sort. Someone who specializes in bicycle related stuff. Anything we say is
conjecture based on anecdotal experiences. Take your bike in and have them work
with you.
I would also recommend the Becoming a Supple Leopard
8cm Technomic at max height line, with Albatross or Bosco bars should get
you bolt upright, like sitting in a chair.
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A fair point, Justin. I have the world's WORST physiotherapist and am
looking for another.
I was doing olympic-style weightlifting training last year before the RA
got too bad in my wrists. I hope to get back to it someday. Thanks for the
suggestions!
On Friday, May 16, 2014 3:16:12 PM
Thank you, Michael. Good thoughts never hurt. :)
On Friday, May 16, 2014 2:43:51 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:
Cecily, I am so sad to read about your pain and that it is associated
with riding Betty. I've seen pictures of your beautiful bike and patterned
my wife's on it.
What does
Cecily,
You mentioned getting upright like a dutch bike. I don't know if that will
solve the problem, but if that is what you want, I would think your Betty
could easily be set up that way.
To get yourself sitting bolt upright, with all your weight on your behind
and your trunk vertical,
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