Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-28 Thread Kiley Demond
I worked in Silicon Valley for 30+ years and one of my friends who worked at Google would respond to factual questions with, “Have you heard about this thing called Google?”, as did other employees there. Just as my parents sent me to a dictionary while I wailed, “Can’t you just tell me what it

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-27 Thread Doug Hansford
Okay boomer...Just kidding Deacon Patrick. Your comment made me think back to doing research papers and such in high school, before we had the internet. Libraries and old newspaper articles on microfilm were sources. I'm not implying I'd want to go back to those times but they were so different

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-27 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Wisdom, this. "... and I failed to utilize google ..." With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 1:28:38 PM UTC-6, Kiley Demond wrote: > > Thank you! My school was private with no religious affiliation so I was > confused by the reference (and I failed to utilize google….). > > > > On

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-27 Thread Kiley Demond
Thank you! My school was private with no religious affiliation so I was confused by the reference (and I failed to utilize google….).  > On May 27, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Dorothy C wrote: > > > Fictitious school drawn by Ronald Searle, featured in a couple of old British > movies.  > > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-27 Thread Dorothy C
Fictitious school drawn by Ronald Searle, featured in a couple of old British movies. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Trinian's_School -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving em

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-27 Thread 'Kurt Henry' via RBW Owners Bunch
BBDD, I got in on the presale for my former spouse. I posted a WTB for a 45 that never made it to the list, then finally decided to buy the 45 Clem-H that was in the garage sale section as a best alternative. I called and talked to Grant, who told me that it sold that morning. Sigh... But he tol

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-27 Thread Patrick Moore
Yeah, I knew this connection, but in 1964, we all at age 9 or 10, had no idea of the connection; and we were hardly cherubic innocents. But I daresay that at an all girls school -- St. Trinian's -- the connection might well be fraught. The Ronald Searle images, of course. It was funny -- I rememb

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-27 Thread Kiley Demond
I went to an all girls school founded in 1884 whose mascot is the beaver, as the animal embodiment of industriousness. That went sideways somewhere in the 1980s or 90s. I remember trying to use “what was your high school’s mascot?” as a security question and entering “beaver" and having the site

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-27 Thread Patrick Moore
My nickname until sometime in my 10 year was "Beaver" because of my big, gleaming "Maxilary Central Incisors". The name stopped after I chipped the left one: 1964 or so, age 9, skateboards new, friend had one, placed it on the concrete driveway, thought it brilliant to run and do belly flop on boar

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-27 Thread EricP
Congrats on the new bike for your dad! (Just posted elsewhere that a 59cm will eventually make it's way to me.) As for platypus - well, unfortunately, that was my elementary school nickname when being picked on. Since then have never liked the word. Nothing against the animal, or the proposed b

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-26 Thread Mark Roland
Right. Because platypus is so formal and stuffy ;^) But seriously, a weird culture that lets corporations "own" the rights to the names of things in nature. I mean, does the Platypus Foundation get a cut of sales? On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 4:33:40 PM UTC-4, Max S wrote: > > Or "plapytus" – I

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-26 Thread Max S
Or "plapytus" – I do like the silly sound of it. :-) - Max "what's in a name?" in A2 On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 8:56:26 AM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote: > > With Grant's fondness for anagrams, maybe Patyplus? Could spell it Patti > Pluss on the other side... > > On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 5:32:33

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-25 Thread DHans
Aptly sup..and in aptly supple ride? Doug On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 8:56:26 AM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote: > > With Grant's fondness for anagrams, maybe Patyplus? Could spell it Patti > Pluss on the other side... > > On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 5:32:33 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote: >> >> >> Platypus bott

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-25 Thread Mark Roland
With Grant's fondness for anagrams, maybe Patyplus? Could spell it Patti Pluss on the other side... On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 5:32:33 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote: > > > Platypus bottles are a trademark of Cascade Designs, the company that > makes Therma-Rest sleeping pads and who holds a bunch of ot

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-25 Thread Garth
Platypus bottles are a trademark of Cascade Designs, the company that makes Therma-Rest sleeping pads and who holds a bunch of other trademarks for their brands and products. https://trademarks.justia.com/750/33/platypus-75033060.html https://trademarks.justia.com/owners/cascade-designs-inc-1

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-25 Thread masmojo
Pancake; technically, you could be right, but legality or letter of law might be less of an issue than simple prudence. It's been my experience that just because the law might be on your side doesn't mean someone can't threaten legal action. And in this case, resulting legal action could have

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-24 Thread Bob Ehrenbeck
Joe, If you're really considering picking up a 45 Clem L, you should know that my wife just snagged a 45 yesterday (the bronze green color, her first Riv), so there's one less in the inventory. Soon, we'll be a two-Clem household (Clem H + Clem L)! Bob E Cranford, NJ On Saturday, May 23, 2020

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-23 Thread Kiley Demond
I do not exactly when and how many are arriving. I am confident when they arrive my spidey-sense will get me there in time. I would get the blue for sure. My second, and really only other choice, is orange. I can’t recall a red Riv. My college bike was a red Raleigh and I got red because that wa

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-23 Thread Joe Bernard
Ooh, a sparkly metallic red Clem L. I'd probably have to buy that! ❤️ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegro

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-23 Thread Leah Peterson
Kiley, what color are you hoping for? If you choose one from this batch which color strikes your fancy? Do you know how many frames-only are for sale? Can they tell you if you have a good chance of scoring one when they’re released? Also, a red Clem would be 😍🌹. You know, if anyone out there is

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-23 Thread Leah Peterson
You guys will do anything to get in our #RivSisterhood! Well, that blue is just the ticket. You can call it Leah Blue, Ryan, but Riv thought they were naming it for themselves. Ha! I call it: blue-green-shot-through-with-glimmer-like-sunlight-on-seawater. Because that’s what it is. My own l

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-23 Thread Joe Bernard
Oh dude, I already put the mainstream silver stuff on the custom. The whole POINT of a blue Clem(entine) is to get red and orange hubs yo! 🕺💃 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-23 Thread 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch
Joe, Because it would make you an honorary step-#rivsister to her and the other intelligent women who share a healthy love of bikes; especially low step over mixte inspired ones. They then bond with these steeds like their own offsprings demonstrating a loyalty and joy of just riding many of us

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-23 Thread Joe Bernard
I'm trying to think of a reason why I need a 45cm copy of Leah's gorgeous blue Clem(entine) even though I just spent a comical amount of money on a custom and sold my grilver Clem(entine) frame. I'll think of something! 🤪 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

2020-05-23 Thread Kiley Demond
Zoinks! It's time! Before I put the money in for a 59 complete Clem L, which I am shortening to CLem (the other being CHlem, where the 'h' is silent), what say the spec nerds about the components this time around? I know the tires are too narrow, so I will have to swap those out (and evidently

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-10-13 Thread David Strong
i'm kicking myself for not getting in on the Clem presale before it closed. my fingers are crossed that someone decides they dont love their 52cm and sells it to me! haha. if youre reading this and want to let yours go, DM me! otherwise i hope the upcoming Appaloosa is rad On Monday, October 12

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-10-12 Thread Wayne Naha
Hello Tim! Welcome! My Clem will also be my first Riv as well. My PBH is 84, and I'm getting a 52. On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 6:33:01 PM UTC-4, Tim Wood wrote: > > I too fretted over the 52 and 59. My PBH is 90 and saddle height 79. I > went with the 59 and after seeing the most recent ph

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-10-12 Thread Tim Wood
I too fretted over the 52 and 59. My PBH is 90 and saddle height 79. I went with the 59 and after seeing the most recent photos on the blug it somewhat reaffirmed my decision as I wouldn't have wanted a 52 with that much post and stem showing. -first time post, first time riv owner, hello ever

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-10-12 Thread Wayne Naha
I hope undorky. Perhaps geeky? I don't know, except that I'm about to pop from waiting! As I've spent time looking at the various guises of the Clem/Clementine, the 'ugly bike' concept that was discussed at their introduction becomes more clear. They're not ugly, of course, maybe 'gangly' o

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-10-12 Thread El Sapo
Hahahaha, Bike size is one of my biggest fears with Riv. I'm about the same size as Grant, so you'd think it wouldn't be an issue, but like you, I seem to fit 2 sizes on every bike they make. The Clem is an exception. I fit right in the middle of the 52 size range. I'd guess that 59 Clementine

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-10-12 Thread iamkeith
They only posted those pics., with bikes set up that way, to taunt me, personally: "See - you really SHOULD have ordered the 52, and the 59 that you *did* order really IS going to be too big." On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 10:20:48 AM UTC-6, El Sapo wrote: > > > Un-dorky. I imagine my Clem wil

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-10-10 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
The Cheviot also only comes in three sizes. I am getting a 52 Clem(entine). I don't think it's a matter of "making the 52 work," despite the fact that, at 5'10" and with a seat height around 74cm, I normally ride 58-60cm frames (I do tend to set my upright townie rides 1-2cm lower, legs just s

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-10-09 Thread Anne Paulson
Having a bike with a very low top tube, I can testify to one reason to get the top tube right up there: frame bag space. I love my Surly Krampus and appreciate the lower top tube, but still I envy the other riders whose frame bags can hold more than a tube and some tools. On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 8:

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-10-09 Thread Wayne Naha
I like this line of thinking. It does seem like like getting that top tube right up there is mostly for tradition. My Clem is going to be a smaller than I would normally ride, so it looks like my seatpost and handlebars will be hiked up dork fashion. On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 7:07:14 PM

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-10-08 Thread Joe Bernard
Conversely, this would put me on a 45cm with a low standover height. After years of riding folders with the frame *way down there*, my creaky 53-year-old body has completely lost the plot on towering toptubes. They're up there in the way for no reason other than most nice bikes used to look tha

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-10-08 Thread Reid
Obviously, as the pre-sales sold out weeks ago, "dorky" is the latest "in thing" on the cutting-edge fashion scene. Reid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-10-08 Thread sprocket67
It seems like with the limited frame sizes the handlebar rise has to be out of proportion to fit a rider that might normally need a larger frame. If you usually ride a 56 you'd have to make the 52 work. On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:45:11 AM UTC-4, El Sapo wrote: > > > > On Thursday, August

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-10-07 Thread Joe Bernard
They're half-lugged, half welded, have bendy seatstays, and a cartoonish-looking rear derailer with Big Wheel pulleys. They're *intentionally* dorky! On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 9:45:11 PM UTC-7, El Sapo wrote: > > > > On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 2:40:19 AM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote: >> >>

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-10-07 Thread James Warren
Who knows, because dorky has no clear definition. I think the bikes look awesome. On Oct 1, 2015, at 5:59 PM, El Sapo wrote: > > > On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 2:40:19 AM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote: > The Blug has announced that Riv has sold out their entire first run Clems and > Clementines

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-10-07 Thread El Sapo
On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 2:40:19 AM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote: > > The Blug has announced that Riv has sold out their entire first run Clems > and Clementines. > Could they have made the bikes look any more dorky on the blog? -- You received this message because you are sub

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-09-24 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Ah, I can smell it in the air... it's nearly OCTOBER And with that can we expect to hear (soon) that the Clems/intines are lining up for shipment??? On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 5:40:19 AM UTC-4, Wayne Naha wrote: > > The Blug has announced that Riv has sold out their entire first run

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-08-27 Thread Wayne Naha
Personally, I am going to live with this bike, and ride it a good while before contemplating any upgrades. By that, I mean replacing replacing any of the original components with different items. Because I do plan to accessorize right away with a Pletscher rear rack, fenders, water bottle cag

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-08-26 Thread El Sapo
> > I was surprised at how much I liked the Bosco bars. When given a choice, I > prefer Bullmoose bars, but the way the Bosco felt was really nice. I think > it's perfect on the Clem. I was expecting beach cruiser and instead got > a less upright, more natural posture. I'll probably upgrade the

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-08-21 Thread Wayne Naha
I hope they deliver the bikes well before Thanksgiving! It will be hard enough waiting until Halloween. On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 7:37:41 AM UTC-4, Edwin W wrote: > > Like in construction, It is very rare for a new bike project to be > completeted early! > It did happen when I was living i

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-08-21 Thread Surlyprof
Depends on how you intend to ride. I found the Sam and Clem to be pretty different bikes (both fantastic). I love my Sam more than any bike I've ever owned and can ride it as a road/club ride bike or a trail bike (with a wheelset swap). I could see setting up a Clem as a really fun trail bike

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-08-21 Thread Edwin W
Like in construction, It is very rare for a new bike project to be completeted early! It did happen when I was living in Berkeley around 2009, when a truck blew up and melted a section of the 580(?) coming off the bay bridge. They had a huge financial incentive for finishing early and a huge pen

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-08-20 Thread El Sapo
Glad to see they sold out. Went into the store to check out a Clementine for my wife, we road them around, she was sold and insisted that I get a Clem for myself. On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 2:40:19 AM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote: > The Blug has announced that Riv has sold out their entire fir

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-08-20 Thread El Sapo
Will they actually take until late October or can we hope for an earlier date? Anyone have experience with Riv timelines? On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 2:40:19 AM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote: > > The Blug has announced that Riv has sold out their entire first run Clems > and Clementines. They are

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-08-06 Thread Bill Lindsay
That is exceedingly good, since their biggest problem as a business is cashflow. Their Taiwan suppliers want their money up front. Now that shipment 1 of the Clems is pre-sold, Riv should have the money on hand to pay the supplier the moment the shipment is ready. That's great for them. On

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-08-06 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
Really good to hear! I was a bit worried because it seemed like they were (and still are) taking a big gamble with the whole Clem/Chev/Appa push in place of their regular framesets and in-house builds. I'm glad it's working out for them and I can't wait to see people's Clems. I still wish t

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-08-06 Thread James Warren
Your plan is a good one! On Aug 6, 2015, at 7:58 AM, Daniel D. wrote: > congrats to the buyers. I just couldn't pull the trigger but have a feeling > I may regret it. Holding out for a Sam > > On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 2:40:19 AM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote: > The Blug has announced that

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

2015-08-06 Thread Daniel D.
congrats to the buyers. I just couldn't pull the trigger but have a feeling I may regret it. Holding out for a Sam On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 2:40:19 AM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote: > > The Blug has announced that Riv has sold out their entire first run Clems > and Clementines. They are sold

[RBW] Re: Clem presale end date

2015-06-01 Thread Wayne Naha
Well, I'm glad that's sorted. I'm about halfway there. Whew. On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 4:36:34 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > It looks like both of you have nothing to worry about. Grant clarified on > the Blug what exactly was meant by his 5/29 post. The price is what you > expected. $

[RBW] Re: Clem presale end date

2015-06-01 Thread Bill Lindsay
It looks like both of you have nothing to worry about. Grant clarified on the Blug what exactly was meant by his 5/29 post. The price is what you expected. $1400 as long as you pay before September 1. The June 1 thing is only about what bikes got ordered. The colors and sizes that people

[RBW] Re: Clem presale end date

2015-05-31 Thread Wayne Naha
The Clem brochure states, and I quote, "When— We’re getting 200 complete bikes in October. price— Paid off by September 1 and not a single day later: $1,400. After that: $1,500." That's from the version I saved when it first came out. The current revised version says, and I quote, "AvAiLAb

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale Complete

2015-04-08 Thread Dave @ Riv
I sent the email and should add that: It may have come across too pushy. I'm sorry for that. The gist is this, if you preordered a frame, we'd like to give you the chance to upgrade to a complete (no pressure) so we can mark one of the completes with your preferred color. These are bikes-in-

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-12 Thread Mike Shaljian
Here's a sneak peek of the Jones, w/ one 60mm Super Moto on a 45mm rim (yay, chubby bikes!): http://imgur.com/Iih7riE -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-12 Thread Garth
The seatpost selection is very limited it seems , but of course it does come with one . Likely a basic Kalloy Laprade or one of low end UNO models or similar generic post from Taiwan. Thomson ? I checked all I could find and it seems the only one is a black zero setback. Not available in s

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-11 Thread Edwin W
> Only on this group would a Sam be considered for someone who wants to ride > fast on roads! > Riding not so fast on roads and elsewhere with my Sam, Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-11 Thread Mike Shaljian
I suppose by "fast" I mean efficient; efficient in the sense of not being ground down and weary from riding harsh washboard for miles with tires that aren't really up to the task. I imagine riding rough roads will be far more enjoyable with huge tires run at low pressures, meaning I hope the bik

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-11 Thread Bill
+1 on the Jones Plus. What's the deal with all the "go fast" chatter? Slow down and enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-own

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-11 Thread Bill
+1 on the Jones Plus. What's the deal with all the "go fast" chatter? Slow down and enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-own

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-11 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Seriously... I've been Jonesin' for a Jones for a long time... Do share pics... On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 3:07:41 AM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote: > > Please share pictures of the Jones when it arrives. I have 37mm tires on > the Quickbeam, and a 700c Big Apple road bike. The one Jones I

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-11 Thread Mike Shaljian
I will definitely post pictures and initial impressions compared to my Riv. - Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-11 Thread drew beckmeyer
i think that the clem and sam are different enough in function/ride and similar enough in price that you should go with the one that suits your needs the most. if you dont think youll want to use it to go fast on roads, but want something sturdy with big comfortable tires, then clem all the way

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-11 Thread Philip Williamson
Please share pictures of the Jones when it arrives. I have 37mm tires on the Quickbeam, and a 700c Big Apple road bike. The one Jones I rode for about 10 minutes off-road was pretty phenomenal. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-10 Thread Mike Shaljian
As someone who's ridden a Sam for the past 3+ years and who's recently felt the uncontrollable urge to upgrade to a fatter-tired bike, I would say wait for the Clem. I have slowly crept up in tire size over the years, going from 28mm gatorskins back in the mid-2000's, to 33mm Supremes on my Quic

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-10 Thread Joe Bernard
There's also this 51cm Sam which is discounted for a blemish. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-127.htm On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 12:27:31 PM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote: > Thanks, everyone for all your thoughts. The reason I was vacillating > between the Clem and the Sam is primarily econ

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-10 Thread Joe Bernard
While I agree with a the last couple posters that you may be taking it a little too easy on your Raleigh, you sound like a fellow who's ready for a shiny new Riv..it's just a matter of which one. The Clem is nice, and certainly affordable, but those 52 and 53 Appaloosas are raging deals and ava

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-10 Thread Tom Harrop
I guess you can get shims that will work from 27.2 mm to 29.8 mm, and a quick google turns up Kalloy and Thomson posts in 29.8 mm. I would still be interested to know why it's that size since it is not "natively compatible" with Nitto stuff. On Tuesday, 10 March 2015 20:27:31 UTC+1, Wayne Naha

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-10 Thread Joe Broach
Hi Wayne, I'd hate to talk you out of a new Riv, but you're selling that Raleigh short. IIRC, the Gran Sport had nice, butted tubing and a lovely fork, all Reynolds 531. That's as good or better than anything you'd get in a new production bike (most similar to something like a Hilsen or Rambouille

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-10 Thread Wayne Naha
Thanks, everyone for all your thoughts. The reason I was vacillating between the Clem and the Sam is primarily economic, being that they are Riv's lowest cost models. I could be very happy on either bicycle. Right now, I am riding a 1976 vintage Raleigh Gran Sport. Its a fine bike. It is o

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-09 Thread Joe Bernard
I think one thing Riv is trying to promote with the Clem idea - the site has had a special Clem Parts section for a while now - is the concept of "nice parts are nice, but good enough parts have a funky kind of style that is unique to them". If you're old enough to have participated in the Bike

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-09 Thread dougP
When I read Rivendell's description of equipping the Clem, what I hear is "don't be afraid to go economical parts on this bike. It can get away with cheap stuff as well as bling." Sounds like another dimension in versatility. This bike won't look out of place with a $20 aluminum rack but

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-09 Thread Surlyprof
I bought my Hillborne after seeing the first Clems but I did so because it was the right compliment to an MTB I already had. It was a replacement for a Bianchi that maxed out at 25c tires. The Hillborne is a pretty different bike than the Clem. From initial reports, it sounds like the Clem i

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-09 Thread Joe Bernard
It's a nice frame purchased for more than many complete bicycles. I understand Riv's marketing direction for it, but most people are going to hang nice not-the-cheapest parts on there. If I get one it'll get the same Brooks saddle as all my other bikes 'cause that's all I can ride. -- You rece

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-09 Thread Tony DeFilippo
The Clementine I'm building up for my wife will not be a 'beater'. It'll be her primary town bike and off road bike as required. I expect to build it out with existing parts including dyno lighting, some paul components, brooks saddle, nitto stuff... typical riv inspired build. If the bike handl

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-09 Thread Wayne Naha
The Clem sounds like a great bike for me, just the right level of stoutness to the frame and those nice longer chainstays. I had been considering a Sam, but Clem has turned my head. Yet I can't contemplate hanging plastic pedals off it, and I would really like to have a generator hub, too. Bu

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-06 Thread Tony DeFilippo
It sounds kind of bad when you say it... counting other folks bike transactions shouldn't be allowed! :) To be fair the Saluki has been out of commission since August, the rSOGN was bought and sold w/in a month and Tom's blue Bombadil was just too good a deal to pass up! Maybe the rest of 2015 wi

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-06 Thread iamkeith
On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 3:52:24 PM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > PSA, the sizing note from the BLUG applies to the Clem not the > Clementine... I had a conversation w/ Riv just now about the right size for > my 5' 5" wife and was directed to the 52cm, 650B Clementine. In a related >

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-05 Thread iamkeith
That makes sense. I went back and looked at the prototypes, and they were indeed pewter. Interesting that they're willing to sell "extras" for $15. I think that's what confused me. On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 5:36:05 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > The metal headbadges on all the Rivs I'v

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-05 Thread Joe Bernard
The metal headbadges on all the Rivs I've owned were stickied on, not riveted. On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 9:14:43 AM UTC-8, iamkeith wrote: > > How does everyone take the last bit about the decals, looks to me like you >> have the option to get the frame w/ headbadge only, no decal or you ca

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-05 Thread Deacon Patrick
Presumably with the pre-sale that $1400 drops to 1,250 not counting the saddle. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-o

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-05 Thread Bill Lindsay
*$850 or so for the frameset, $1400 or so not counting the saddle complete* On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 4:04:41 PM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: > > The Clem is the bike my son needs, now that I know it'll fit 6'4". > Trouble is, he needs it now, not a year from now. > > What is the price suppose

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-05 Thread Anne Paulson
The Clem is the bike my son needs, now that I know it'll fit 6'4". Trouble is, he needs it now, not a year from now. What is the price supposed to be for a built-up Clem, again? On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > It will definitely fit. $700 is incredible. It's going to be a

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-05 Thread Deacon Patrick
Great point, Tony! Thanks for bringing it up, as it prompted a call to Kevin. The sizing chart is different in that the range of each Clementine is greater. So, for a growing kid with cheapskate parents, as long as the PBH allows room for the seat even if slammed, that's the way to go. He is go

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-05 Thread Norman R
I pre ordered the 52 cm Clementine in black--for myself. I am seeing it as the teen-aged gender confused son of my Sam. On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 7:56:49 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote: > > Someone convince me that the large Clem will fit me. I ride a 65cm > Redwood, the large Clem is a 59cm.

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-05 Thread Tom Harrop
Oops, I'm in too. Household Riv # 4 will be a 52 cm Clementine, but that will be two each so it's totally OK. And it could be worse, if there was a 65 cm Clementine it would be 5 Rivs... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To u

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-05 Thread Bill Lindsay
Dy-no-mite! Congrats, Tony! On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 2:52:24 PM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > PSA, the sizing note from the BLUG applies to the Clem not the > Clementine... I had a conversation w/ Riv just now about the right size for > my 5' 5" wife and was directed to the 52cm, 650B C

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-05 Thread Tony DeFilippo
PSA, the sizing note from the BLUG applies to the Clem not the Clementine... I had a conversation w/ Riv just now about the right size for my 5' 5" wife and was directed to the 52cm, 650B Clementine. In a related note, this list is a bad influence and I'm officially in the presale... :) It'll

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-05 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks, Jon! With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 2:43:26 PM UTC-7, Jon in the foothills of Central Colorado wrote: > > Patrick, > If I can help with your assemblies or have questions let me know ! > Jon > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-05 Thread Jon in the foothills of Central Colorado
Patrick, If I can help with your assemblies or have questions let me know ! Jon On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 7:26:30 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: > After talking with Riv, and understanding that the "envelope" is pushable > on the upper end more than the lower end (a bigger person can ride

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-05 Thread Tony DeFilippo
I just showed her the bike online and she's a fan... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post t

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-05 Thread DS
y, March 04, 2015 11:55 PM > *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale. > > > > My wife has a 52cm Yves Gomez > I have a 58cm Hilsen > 56cm Bomba > 56cm Hillborne > 58cm Atlantis > > So 5 Rivendells currently present in my garage &g

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-05 Thread iamkeith
> > How does everyone take the last bit about the decals, looks to me like you > have the option to get the frame w/ headbadge only, no decal or you can > have the Clem/Clementine decal plus a customized name/whatever decal? Am I > reading that right? > I think you get the "standard" Clem Smi

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-05 Thread Deacon Patrick
All Clementines. My wife and daughters wear skirts or dresses almost exclusively, and that's what they bike in. My wife has long been itching for a mixte, and that's what our two oldest currently ride. My wife surprised me and went with orange. "I thought they were names after the small 'Cutie'

RE: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-05 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale. My wife has a 52cm Yves Gomez I have a 58cm Hilsen 56cm Bomba 56cm Hillborne 58cm Atlantis So 5 Rivendells currently present in my garage On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 8:06:38 PM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote: Does this put you at 7, Deacon? Who is the current keeper of the

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-05 Thread Deacon Patrick
After talking with Riv, and understanding that the "envelope" is pushable on the upper end more than the lower end (a bigger person can ride a smaller frame) because it's got the high head tube, we're going with 3 mediums and two smalls. That puts the sizing spot on for our current oldest two i

RE: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-05 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
eye of the beholder. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Deacon Patrick Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 6:10 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale. Don't count our family seven yet. They aren&#

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-05 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Patrick are you going all Clementine's or a mix? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to th

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