[RBW] Re: How do you like your Rivs on centuries or longer vs. your "modern geometry aluminum/carbon road" bikes?

2013-05-14 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
I don't think it was taken as a negative-to-RBW perspective. But, Steve makes a good point - what you are really talking about is "race" geometry. I have always thought of Grant's designs as "real-world". In my neck of the woods, where there tends to be more people riding more recently de

[RBW] Re: How do you like your Rivs on centuries or longer vs. your "modern geometry aluminum/carbon road" bikes?

2013-05-14 Thread Marc Irwin
Without trying to get into specifics, my impression on longer rides is that the Riv's are way more comfortable and easier to manage over the long haul. I think the combination of geometry and larger tires makes for much less effort over long distances. I have ridden my Hunq fully loaded for ov

[RBW] Re: How do you like your Rivs on centuries or longer vs. your "modern geometry aluminum/carbon road" bikes?

2013-05-13 Thread Michael
> > OK, just to clarify, y'all: > > By "modern geometry", I meant the typical carbon bike shapes and angles of construction you see these days in TdeF. Those kindsa bikes and their ilk sold in shoppes around the USA today. The phrase was *not* meant to negative-image-state anything about wh

Re: [RBW] Re: How do you like your Rivs on centuries or longer vs. your "modern geometry aluminum/carbon road" bikes?

2013-05-13 Thread Matthew J
I did a couple of tours on this restored long chain stay Trek 728: http://cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc484-joelmatthews0508.html before donating to a local bike co-op. The ride with the 35 Schwalbes was very comfortable. Never tried it with narrower tires. The 728 had a mid to high trail fork.

Re: [RBW] Re: How do you like your Rivs on centuries or longer vs. your "modern geometry aluminum/carbon road" bikes?

2013-05-13 Thread RJM
The Domane is a comfortable bike and if I cared enough to spend a bunch of money on carbon fiber, compact cranks, and 10 speed brifters I would be looking at one. I just do not really like any of that so it isn't really the bike for me. It is a comfortable bike though and it deals with vibratio

Re: [RBW] Re: How do you like your Rivs on centuries or longer vs. your "modern geometry aluminum/carbon road" bikes?

2013-05-13 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I'm curious about the effect of a long wheelbase, particularly ~45 cm stays, on smoothing out bumps of any size. Also, I've found that tire quality can affect vibration/harshness, at least indirectly and, I think -- but may be wrong -- directly. Item: certain skinny, sub 25 mm tires (and short ones

Re: [RBW] Re: How do you like your Rivs on centuries or longer vs. your "modern geometry aluminum/carbon road" bikes?

2013-05-13 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 08:48 -0700, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: > Grant's designs always whisper in your ear to take the longer way > home, then less direct route, the more adventurous vector. Always. > > There are a number of reasons for that, with the two main being the > ability to run high quality,

[RBW] Re: How do you like your Rivs on centuries or longer vs. your "modern geometry aluminum/carbon road" bikes?

2013-05-13 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Your condition will always influence your ride quality. Sometimes just the lack of coffee and a cruddy day at work really sets you wrong. Luckily, a ride usually fixes that. Grant's designs always whisper in your ear to take the longer way home, then less direct route, the more adventurous v

[RBW] Re: How do you like your Rivs on centuries or longer vs. your "modern geometry aluminum/carbon road" bikes?

2013-05-13 Thread ascpgh
I sold my RB-1 specifically because I was anticipating a ride across the country. After I started logging the miles necessary for my confidence in the daily distances and the all day, every day, nature of the ride I came to grips with the reality that the RB-1 was not the tool for the job. Conv