[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback

2015-06-12 Thread John
Thank you Brian! I have got to ride this route someday. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

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2015-06-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
Brian, Great writeup and photos of the OOB! Thank you. I love the stream crossing shots. Those are always fun, less the pinch flats of course. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this

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2015-06-12 Thread tim.cl...@nike.com
Really enjoyed your write-ups! You guys did it absolutely right. I had to chuckle when you described the conversation in the Silver Lake store of the hypothermic Lycra riders and the concern for their fate. I was one of those dorks and, if I had to do it all over again, I'd do it just like you

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2015-06-11 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi Brian, Thanks so much for posting your days for the ride. I'm really enjoying the pics and need to ride out there someday. shoji Arlington MA On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 2:23:36 AM UTC-4, stonehog wrote: Next installment up: http://stonehog.com/2015/06/10/oregon-outback-2015-day-4/

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2015-06-11 Thread stonehog
Here's the last day's post. http://stonehog.com/2015/06/11/oregon-outback-2015-day-5/ In summary, this is a great, humbling route that really shows the beauty and remoteness available to us in the Northwest. I can see doing rides like this in several areas across Oregon or Washington (to say

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2015-06-11 Thread stonehog
Next installment up: http://stonehog.com/2015/06/10/oregon-outback-2015-day-4/ This was an amazing day - most scenic and fun riding of the trip, for me at least. Brian Hanson Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.

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2015-06-11 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Between the earlier photos, and these write ups, this is looking to be the best event of the year! Excited that such a great ride is receiving such positive press. On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 6:57:47 AM UTC-7, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Hi Brian, Thanks so much for posting your days for the

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2015-06-10 Thread Alex Moll
Excellent report, Brian - THANK YOU! I really want to do this ride. You seemed to enjoy the hammock? I'm curious about them, as I don't do so well sleeping on the ground. Alex Moll Marysville, WA On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 8:57:05 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote: Next segment up:

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2015-06-10 Thread Mike Shaljian
So who won the Outback? Is it a secret from the internet until 6 months have elapsed? Not that racing this would be my thing, but I'm interested to know what the rig strategies were with the top finishers this time around. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

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2015-06-10 Thread Anne Paulson
Billy Truelove in 30 hours, 46 minutes. http://www.oregonbikepacking.com/the-oregon-outback-2015-in-aggregate/ On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Mike Shaljian mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote: So who won the Outback? Is it a secret from the internet until 6 months have elapsed? Not that racing

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2015-06-09 Thread stonehog
I'm putting up my recount of the trip by day. The first couple are up: http://stonehog.com/2015/06/07/oregon-outback-2015-day-1/ http://stonehog.com/2015/06/08/oregon-outback-2015-day-2/ Still thinking about this trip! Brian Seattle, WA On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 6:13:43 PM UTC-7, stonehog

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2015-06-09 Thread Anne Paulson
Excellent recaps. I like reading about riders who did the Outback without racing. Nothing wrong with racing, but I like reading about riders who rode it the way I'd ride it. On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:13 PM, stonehog stone...@gmail.com wrote: I'm putting up my recount of the trip by day. The

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback

2015-06-09 Thread James Warren
Brian. Incredible. How did you like the SA saddle on the trip? -Jim W. On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:13 PM, stonehog stone...@gmail.com wrote: I'm putting up my recount of the trip by day. The first couple are up: http://stonehog.com/2015/06/07/oregon-outback-2015-day-1/

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2015-06-09 Thread Lynne Fitz
Great writeup; I look forward to the next installments! (But I want to know how those riders got an unboxed bike on the Coast Starlight!) On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 6:13:43 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote: I just finished the Oregon Outback on my 54cm Hunqapillar. I used a hodgepodge of bags (Riv

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2015-06-09 Thread Eric
What a great ride! I did it in 6 days on my Igleheart 29er. I couldn't image going any faster, just the perfect mix of riding fun. I saw Stonehog out there complimented on his Riv. I believe I saw an Atlantis in Prineville but I was thinking I'd see alot more based on the chatter on the

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback

2015-06-09 Thread Anne Paulson
They made a special arrangement with Amtrak, just for that trip, because there were going to be so many bikes. (But I want to know how those riders got an unboxed bike on the Coast Starlight!) -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you

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2015-06-09 Thread stonehog
Amazing as always. Love the SA saddles. No sores from the get-go. YMMV... Brian On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 8:51:41 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: Brian. Incredible. How did you like the SA saddle on the trip? -Jim W. On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:13 PM, stonehog ston...@gmail.com

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2015-06-09 Thread stonehog
Next segment up: http://stonehog.com/2015/06/09/oregon-outback-2015-day-3/ Featuring less photos (more riding), Fort Rock, Sage Hollow, Bear Creek, Crooked Creek, and Prineville Reservoir... Brian Hanson Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

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2015-06-02 Thread tim clark
I was part of the fendered crew (shake-down ride on the Nobilette!). Made it to Prineville the first night (or was it morning? -- 3:30am). I was so blown from the rain, squishy roads and fatigue that I decided to call it and ride to Bend. In hind sight, it wish I brought camping gear so I

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2015-06-02 Thread tim.cl...@nike.com
I was one of the fendered few (riding the Nobilette). Made it to Prineville the first night--or was it morning--at 3:30am. With all the rain, hail and saturated roads, I was pretty cooked by that point. I had a little more in the tank but not enough to do the 140 left in one push. So off to

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback

2015-06-02 Thread Chris Chen
Son, you got a licence to ride that Riv? On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:33 PM, Allan in Portland allan_f...@aracnet.com wrote: FWIW, yesterday I shuttled an Atlantis from Deschutes SP back to PDX. I don't recall his name, but it was owned and operated by a Canadian. Cheers, -Allan On

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback

2015-05-29 Thread Mark Reimer
I hope to write a proper report this weekend, but if you want to see a few more photos (including the Atlantis with the destroyed derailleur) I've uploaded a lot of stuff to my Flickr page. Keep in mind, this includes riding to the start line from Seattle, so the total ride was 1,150km in 7 days,

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback

2015-05-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
Awesome pics of the OOB, Brian and Mark! Wow! Thank you! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2015-05-29 Thread Ryan Fleming
Wow! Did your bike come home safely? Looking forward to your report...your stories and photos are always so entertaining! On Friday, May 29, 2015 at 11:42:02 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: I hope to write a proper report this weekend, but if you want to see a few more photos (including the

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback

2015-05-28 Thread Mark Reimer
Love the photos!! It's so cool to see them because many of the sections you rode in the daylight I was passing through at night. We rode 7am to midnight the last two days, so the climb after prineville was dark, and everything after the rollers leading toward the gorge was in the dark. Looks like

[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback

2015-05-28 Thread Shoji Takahashi
I've got to do this ride at some point. Nice pics, Brian. And looking forward to seeing yours, too, Mark. shoji On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 4:19:23 PM UTC-4, stonehog wrote: Here are the pics from the ride. @Deacon - it wasn't exactly mud - let's say there were probably some serious

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback

2015-05-28 Thread Deacon Patrick
Well, no wonder you finished a day and a half early! Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 2:24:18 PM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote: Love the photos!! It's so cool to see them because many of the sections you rode in the daylight I was passing through at night. We rode 7am to

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2015-05-28 Thread stonehog
Here are the pics from the ride. @Deacon - it wasn't exactly mud - let's say there were probably some serious bacteria in there - lots of cows around. @Mark - I didn't make it to the start - we were in a hotel a mile down the course and left from there. Glad to hear you were able to replace

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2015-05-28 Thread Mark Reimer
Hah! I really wanted to finish in three days. The last day we rode for 17 hours, only stopping for more than a few minutes when I swapped out the derailleur. I feel like thatt ride expanded my capacity for long distance riding substantially. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Deacon Patrick

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2015-05-28 Thread cyclotourist
Great set of photos! What an amazing ride. I like seeing the different bike set ups out there. It looks like both the Hunq and the Surly (KM?) performed as intended! On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.takaha...@gmail.com wrote: I've got to do this ride at some point. Nice

[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback

2015-05-27 Thread Mark Reimer
That was me! Yes, I did it on the Atlantis. It was excellent. I snapped my derailleur in half at the bottom of the descent out after Prineville, single speeded it 70km until a nice fellow sold me the derailleur off his bike after calling it a day. I was looking for other Riv's, didn't see any!

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2015-05-27 Thread dougP
Also, my Atlantis never arrived on the plane with me coming home... I'm hoping to find out where it is today. Lost over-sized luggage usually shows up at 4 AM a couple of days after you get home. Don't turn your phone off. My Atlantis has gone missing this way a couple of times. Despite all

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2015-05-27 Thread Ryan Fleming
Oh, dearI sure hope your Atlantis comes back unscathed. Looking forward to hearing about your adventures On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 11:51:39 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: That was me! Yes, I did it on the Atlantis. It was excellent. I snapped my derailleur in half at the bottom of the

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback

2015-05-27 Thread Mark Reimer
Atlantis is found, and en route from Vancouver to Winnipeg. So that's good news. Now I've just got to wait and see if it arrives unscathed. On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Ryan Fleming ryanmalloryflem...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, dearI sure hope your Atlantis comes back unscathed. Looking

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2015-05-27 Thread Allan in Portland
FWIW, yesterday I shuttled an Atlantis from Deschutes SP back to PDX. I don't recall his name, but it was owned and operated by a Canadian. Cheers, -Allan On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 6:13:43 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote: I just finished the Oregon Outback on my 54cm Hunqapillar. I used a

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2015-05-27 Thread Lungimsam
Congrats on the successful rides! Must have bee a lot of fun. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

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2015-05-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Awesome! I look forward to your write up and photos! Mud contains probiotics and it good for your water bottles! Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 7:13:43 PM UTC-6, stonehog wrote: I just finished the Oregon Outback on my 54cm Hunqapillar. I used a hodgepodge of bags

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback Rollcall

2015-01-25 Thread hsmitham
Same here Brian! I like living :) But it's so tempting Chris. ~Hugh On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 11:50:12 AM UTC-8, stonehog wrote: Already have a perfect OO bike in the Hunq... And my wife would kill me :) Brian On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 1:11:10 AM UTC-8, Christopher Chen

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2015-01-25 Thread Mike Schiller
Brian, I didn't make the ride last year, but I have backpacked all my life and have a lot or experience with ultralight camping. I recently got a water-resistant bivy sack from Borah Designs. I used it on a recent bikepacking trip and was very happy with it. I put my pad and sleeping bag

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback Rollcall

2015-01-24 Thread Mark Reimer
Oh I think you can do 90 miles leisurely. Just takes a rel long time. On Jan 24, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 01/24/2015 02:51 PM, stonehog wrote: Tongue in cheek - compared to the amazing Heine/Ryan trips :) Nobody calls them leisurely either.

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2015-01-24 Thread stonehog
Tongue in cheek - compared to the amazing Heine/Ryan trips :) Brian On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 9:50:43 AM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: 90 hilly gravel miles a day, while carrying some minimal camping gear, is leisurely? Usually people don't even call 90 paved touring miles leisurely.

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2015-01-24 Thread stonehog
Already have a perfect OO bike in the Hunq... And my wife would kill me :) Brian On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 1:11:10 AM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote: Why aren't you ordering the new Bantam monster? On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:50 PM, stonehog ston...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

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2015-01-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/24/2015 02:51 PM, stonehog wrote: Tongue in cheek - compared to the amazing Heine/Ryan trips :) Nobody calls them leisurely either. Brian On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 9:50:43 AM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: 90 hilly gravel miles a day, while carrying some minimal camping

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2015-01-24 Thread Anne Paulson
OK, sorry, missed the tongue in cheekness. On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 11:51 AM, stonehog stone...@gmail.com wrote: Tongue in cheek - compared to the amazing Heine/Ryan trips :) Brian On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 9:50:43 AM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: 90 hilly gravel miles a day, while

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback Rollcall

2015-01-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/24/2015 03:36 PM, Mark Reimer wrote: Oh I think you can do 90 miles leisurely. Just takes a rel long time. On one of Jan's trips, the first 90 miles is just getting to the ride start. On Jan 24, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com mailto:palin...@his.com wrote:

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2015-01-23 Thread Anne Paulson
90 hilly gravel miles a day, while carrying some minimal camping gear, is leisurely? Usually people don't even call 90 paved touring miles leisurely. On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:50 PM, stonehog stone...@gmail.com wrote: Thread revival. I'm planning to do this one on my Hunqapillar this year. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback Rollcall

2015-01-23 Thread Anne Paulson
How fat are the tires on the Fatlantis, again? I'm dithering about whether to use Super Moto 2.35 tires or Knard 3 tires on my bike. The Knard tires are absolutely fantastic in the kind of deep kitty litter that abounds on the Outback, but they may be overkill. On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 9:53 AM,

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback Rollcall

2015-01-23 Thread Mark Reimer
I'll be there as well, targeting 4 days on the Fatlantis. I'm coming down with three other guys from up here in Winnipeg. Should be a grande ol tyme. On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: 90 hilly gravel miles a day, while carrying some minimal camping

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2015-01-23 Thread Mark Reimer
They are 2.1 WTB Nano's. Plenty fat enough for me. I've done gravel, single track and sandy road riding, loaded, on those. I'm not worried at all about them being too narrow. On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: How fat are the tires on the Fatlantis,

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback Rollcall

2015-01-23 Thread Anne Paulson
Those Nanos are reputed to be great tires for gravel touring. On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Mark Reimer marknrei...@gmail.com wrote: They are 2.1 WTB Nano's. Plenty fat enough for me. I've done gravel, single track and sandy road riding, loaded, on those. I'm not worried at all about them

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback Rollcall

2015-01-23 Thread Chris Chen
Why aren't you ordering the new Bantam monster? On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:50 PM, stonehog stone...@gmail.com wrote: Thread revival. I'm planning to do this one on my Hunqapillar this year. I am thinking about the camping situation. Has anyone insight at this point on what worked last year?

[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback Rollcall

2015-01-22 Thread stonehog
Thread revival. I'm planning to do this one on my Hunqapillar this year. I am thinking about the camping situation. Has anyone insight at this point on what worked last year? Example - I like to camp light on the bike - sans tent. Did folks make this work last year? I realize it will

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water

2014-11-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
That is precisely why I gave riding time rather than distance. There is a huge difference between 25 miles depending on if it is: mountainous single track, rolling desert dirt roads, or paved roads. Then adding in rider differences, and the equation spreads out even more. Regardless, if anyone

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water

2014-11-26 Thread Jan Heine
My water consumption depends very much on the temperature. In the early morning, I often ride 50+ miles on half a bottle. (I usually start rides well-hydrated.) If it's very hot and dry, I may drink a bottle every 10 miles. Listening to my body is key to completing challenging rides. I also

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water

2014-11-26 Thread Anne Paulson
I'm not going to limit myself-- I'm going to do the Oregon Outback. And I'd say that there is, not a 5% chance, but a 100% chance, that at some point I'll be very uncomfortable. But I'm going to carry extra water. I'd rather arrive back with water to spare than ride 14 miles in the desert into a

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water

2014-11-26 Thread Jan Heine
Anne, You don't sound like somebody who is limiting herself. I was thinking about the people who write to me asking how I can ride these rides and not be scared. The precautions you plan to take are good ones. It's one thing to follow your dream, and an entirely different thing to be

[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water

2014-11-25 Thread Jan Heine
The 40 miles per bottle were on soft gravel in daytime, which resulted in more work per mile than the stretch from Fort Rock to Prineville, most of which is on harder gravel or even pavement. Plus, I did half of that stretch at night, with cooler temperatures. If I was concerned, I'd put a

[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water

2014-11-25 Thread Deacon Patrick
Jan's point is excellent, and I'll say that most of us, regardless of conditions, could likely bike for five or more hours if need be without water. I've run in 100˚F+ Utah desert for over eight hours at high summer with 44 oz of water. I have biked 5+ hours being completely out of water. Yes,

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2014-11-25 Thread ted
I am lucky enough that pretty much nothing to do with my cycling is driven by need. I am way past needs and well into preferences. No doubt I could ride for 5+ hours without water without dying, but I rather think I would rather not. Ride without water that is. On Tuesday, November 25, 2014

[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water

2014-11-25 Thread ted
Jan, do most of the riders you know consume water at a similar rate? On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 6:07:35 AM UTC-8, Jan Heine wrote: The 40 miles per bottle were on soft gravel in daytime, which resulted in more work per mile than the stretch from Fort Rock to Prineville, most of which is

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water

2014-11-25 Thread Anne Paulson
One time when I was touring up in far northern California I started off the day with three full water bottles. Come mid-afternoon, they were empty, but I figured I only had 12-14 flattish miles, so I didn't go down to the Feather River to treat water. Stupid move. I had 14 miles through the desert

[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water

2014-11-24 Thread Jan Heine
I think the longest stretch without water was about 40 miles, maybe a bit more during the night. I think the organizers carried a lot of water because they camped in places with no water. If you want to cook dinner, you'll need some extra water. I carried three large cycling water bottles.

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water

2014-11-24 Thread Anne Paulson
The organizers assert: Water is very limited in several sections of the route. There are points of interest (POI) on the GPS link above that note the last reliable water for the most significant sections, the longest of which is ~80 miles. There are several other sections of 50+ miles without

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water

2014-11-24 Thread Jan Heine
There are a bunch of campgrounds about 10 miles or so before Prineville in the canyon of the Crooked River. There were tons of people camping there, and I would be very surprised if they didn't have water. There were some farms about half-way between Fort Rock and Prineville. Assuming they

[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water

2014-11-24 Thread ted
Thanks for weighing in with your experience Jan. Sounds like you got 40 miles per bottle, so with 3 bottles you had at least 50% margin for an 80 mile gap between water. No worries, pretty simple. I presume warmer sunnier conditions would reduce your miles per bottle, and would eat into that

[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water

2014-11-22 Thread Deacon Patrick
I carry three 28 oz bottles in my Hunqapillars bottle cages, and one empty 100oz. water bladder which I've cut the outbound hose very short on. I've done sections of various trails that have a day or two between water, and am very thankful I don't go through very much compared with most folks.

[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback Rollcall

2014-11-17 Thread Old Oly
It's on my list for next season. I'm trying to recruit a couple of buddies but no luck so far. I'd most likely take Amtrak from Olympia to K-Falls. If time and energy permit I'd like to continue north via USFS roads on the shoulder of Adams and tie into Hiway 12 near Randle/Packwood. Timing

[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback Rollcall

2014-11-16 Thread Mike Schiller
I'm hoping to be there. Probably take 4-5 days. I really want to go at a different time from the dog-n-pony show if possible. ~mike Carlsbad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop