Re: [RBW] Re: Pedals, MKS XC Bear Trap III vs. MKS Bubble Pedals

Most pedals I’ve had do not spin at all. I can’t imagine that resistance doesn’t add up on a long day (with all those watts I put down!). Even if it’s a perceived gain, I’ll take it! On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 6:50:38 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote: > All of this aside, when do you need

Re: [RBW] Re: Pedals, MKS XC Bear Trap III vs. MKS Bubble Pedals

All of this aside, when do you need a pedal to spin more than 1/4 turn? On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 9:49:52 AM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote: > I believe MKS uses varying grades of bearings in their pedals. For > example, they sell the Sylvan pedals at several different price points and > the del

Re: [RBW] Re: Pedals, MKS XC Bear Trap III vs. MKS Bubble Pedals

I believe MKS uses varying grades of bearings in their pedals. For example, they sell the Sylvan pedals at several different price points and the deluxe super-spinner bearings are in the more expensive version. Behold: the Bubblies have better bearings than the Bears? On Sunday, December 11,

Re: [RBW] Re: Pedals, MKS XC Bear Trap III vs. MKS Bubble Pedals

I have blue lug sharks that I've put upwards of 2k miles on this year and they don't spin like any of my mks pedals. They're great/look great but I'm fairly certain they are the last non-mks pedals I'll buy and I'm pretty ok with that. Of course ymmv... On Fri, Dec 9, 2022, 9:29 AM Ryan Frahm wro

Re: [RBW] Re: Pedals, MKS XC Bear Trap III vs. MKS Bubble Pedals

Max: I would bet the pedals will break-in and spin easier with use. I would expect a cartridge bearing system to be as smooth as they get right from the box, but I would not expect the same of a free bearing system like the pedals you feel are snug out of the box. As referenced below, I have a

Re: [RBW] Re: Pedals, MKS XC Bear Trap III vs. MKS Bubble Pedals

Unhelpful to the spin convo but I was pretty disappointed at the lack of grip with the beartrap. They look great but riding in Converse my feet just slip too much. Just traded one of my three sets for a pair of Lambdas. Are the Bubbly pedals grippy?On Dec 9, 2022, at 07:49, Minh wrote:i have the

[RBW] Re: Pedals, MKS XC Bear Trap III vs. MKS Bubble Pedals

i have the bubbly (in copper, had to order from japan last year), and they do spin crazy with your hand, but i'm not really sure if there is a lot of value to this? one thing i'd like to hear is people's feedback on the bubbly and hot spots, IMHO, i can feel the edges of the bubbly cage more

[RBW] Re: Pedals, MKS XC Bear Trap III vs. MKS Bubble Pedals

Thank you everyone for your replies, here's my takeaway after reading your comments and taking apart the bear traps to make sure they were properly greased and tightened (full disclosure this is the first pedal I take apart): I found this video from Ron: https://youtu.be/sjGrbm2XxhM - take a lo

[RBW] Re: Pedals, MKS XC Bear Trap III vs. MKS Bubble Pedals

The bear trap will get smoother over time but never match the Bubbly, the Bubbly is the smoothest pedal I’ve ever seen. I prefer the larger platform of the Bubbly (they are on my commuter) but haven’t bought a set to replace my bear trap pedals on my Susie. Nothing wrong with the bear traps at a

[RBW] Re: Pedals, MKS XC Bear Trap III vs. MKS Bubble Pedals

Max, your description sounds like they may be adjusted too tight, and/or you're simply noticing a difference between the open and cartridge bearings. Most pedals that I've owned didn't come with much grease either. More grease until it oozes out the sides ! Then make sure the bearing isn'

[RBW] Re: Pedals, MKS XC Bear Trap III vs. MKS Bubble Pedals

I have the OG Suntours and they spin for days. Get a rebuilt pair plus add some vintage charm! On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 7:22:36 PM UTC-8 Jared Wilson wrote: > Hey Max, > > Can't speak to the "why" aspect, but you're not crazy in your observation. > > We have (3) pairs of the BL BT III an

[RBW] Re: Pedals, MKS XC Bear Trap III vs. MKS Bubble Pedals

Hey Max, Can't speak to the "why" aspect, but you're not crazy in your observation. We have (3) pairs of the BL BT III and (1) pair of the Bubbly pedals and they're not in the same category. Not to say there's anything wrong with the Bear Traps, but the Bubbly pedals are on an entirely differen

Re: [RBW] Re: Pedals

Eric, I had that problem (too sticky) with the VPs Riv sell/sold. I'm not sure how it's so different, but the Deity Black Kats I use now with spikes don't do it so much. Maybe there's fewer of them and spread over a bigger platform? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to th

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Funny this subject came up now. Yesterday swapped out the MKS sneaker pedals on the Hillborne for an old set of VP pedals that have been on and off a couple of bikes over the years. Not sure which model. They do need to be mounted with an allen wrench and not a regular pedal wrench. They are bi

Re: [RBW] Re: Pedals

I started with bare pedals, added clips without straps, added straps, added slotted cleats, switched to various sorts of clipless, notably Speedplays and KEOs for road, the on a perverse whim went back to clips and straps and very nice, ballet-slipper-like leather Rivats with slotted cleats on my R

[RBW] Re: Pedals

VP Harriers are my favorite wide pedal. They are flat all the way to the crankarm, which some big/wide patform pedals are not. Just sold off a pair of Spank Spike pedals for that reason. Some big/wide platforms put a very large bearing/bushing next to the crankarm, and do away with a protruding

[RBW] Re: Pedals

Doug, I too found that the side I wanted was always facing down (perhaps a switchable plug-in weight that screws in on the opposite side of the one you want to use? Oh, make it magnetic...). The last time I used these pedals was when I fell avoiding a rock (on my Raleigh RX1 cyclocross bike), a

[RBW] Re: Pedals

Thank you for the link. I love all things magnetic and these pedals are very interesting; the clipless pedal twist requires muscle-memory that can be challenging for some. Magnets would allow for a simple lift-off, which the brain already knows. The bio-mechanics inspired pedals are *very* inte

[RBW] Re: Pedals

My pedal of choice is the Velo Orange Grand Cru Sabot . I gave up clipless (Shimano dualies) because I unclipped on the wrong side one too many times (hemispheric reversal: I *know* which direction, but my brain sends t

[RBW] Re: Pedals

I like clipless MTB pedals, and now have Speedplay Syzr pedals on all my bikes, as I dislike float in pedals, and the adjustment screws in the Syzr cleats allow me to lock out all float on them. It's also extremely easy to re-grease the pedals - undo a small grubscrew at the outboard end of the

[RBW] Re: Pedals

Glad to see this thread as this has been on my mind. +1 for Lynn's desire to keep the foot in contact with the pedal. I've been a flat pedal, casual rider through and through. Then about 2 years ago I decided to set up a bike as a fixie (per recommendation from Sheldon Brown's site). That prompt

[RBW] Re: Pedals

SPDs here, usually M520s, although right now I have some dual-sided ones because I had romantic visions of hopping on my bike to run short errands in sneakers. Turns out, I rarely run short errands via bike and switching shoes is not a problem. The flat side of the pedal is further down than the

[RBW] Re: Pedals

I have these on all my bikes. Big and work great with the running shoes I use. https://www.analogcycles.com/product/deity-black-kat-pedals/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving e

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On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 10:46:34 AM UTC-7, Doug Hansford wrote: > > I saw an interesting article about innovative pedal design and it got me > to thinking. Why do I use the pedals that I use? I like platform pedals > after using clipless for many years for both road riding and single track.

[RBW] Re: Pedals

Steve, I have tried the Shimano pedals with SPD on one side and flat on the other and could never get comfortable using them. The pedal always seemed to have the side I needed facing downward. Thanks for the feedback. Doug On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 4:46:44 PM UTC-4, Steve Cole wrote: > > Doug,

[RBW] Re: Pedals

Doug, As on so many things, I'm of two minds. I want to be able to jump on my bike and run some errands without worrying about what shoes I'm wearing. I find, however, for longer planned pleasure rides being clipped in gives me a sense of security. I would also add that living in an urban ar

Re: [RBW] Re: Pedals

Here's a pedal that I've found to be very comfortable: https://kentsbike.blogspot.com/2011/07/sasquatch-pedals-ergon-pc2s.html And, from eleven years ago, here's my long-winded take on the whole pedal question: http://kentsbike.blogspot.com/2009/03/which-pedals-should-i-buy.html Keep those ped

Re: [RBW] Re: Pedals

I have been using these VP-831P Bauhaus pedals for 4 years now, after seeing them in a picture of rich@rivbike's Appaloosa. I love how sticky the grip tape is with any footwear I use, and I eliminate the problem I had with getting scratched up with studded pedals. I don't typically ride in rain or

[RBW] Re: Pedals

I purchased VP Vice pedals for my Sam a four or five years ago and like them so much I got a second pair to replace clipless pedals on my BMC monstercross. I commute, tour, & hit the trail with them and have had no problems whatsoever. The pins grip great for riding in sneakers, but they will s

[RBW] Re: Pedals

I use VP Harrier pedals (they have a safety recall and I haven't gotten around to trading them in for the newer version) because they are the largest (120 x 110) pedal I could find. I have some kind of weird range of motion issue with my right knee or hip and I always end up with my right foot

[RBW] Re: Pedals and Kickstands for sale

The pedals and kickstands have all been sold. Thanks everyone. Steve On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 3:36:20 PM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote: > > Hi Forum, > As I go through stuff I'm not using and needing, I am going to offer > for sale one pair of MKS Grip King/lambda silver pedals, one silver

[RBW] Re: Pedals and Kickstands for sale

I'll take them - PMing you offline. On Wednesday, May 22, 2019 at 5:25:14 PM UTC-6, Steve Butcher wrote: > > The Pedals have sold. I'd take $55.00 shipped for the kickstands > together. Steve > > On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 3:36:20 PM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote: >> >> Hi Forum, >> As I go

[RBW] Re: Pedals and Kickstands for sale

The Pedals have sold. I'd take $55.00 shipped for the kickstands together. Steve On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 3:36:20 PM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote: > > Hi Forum, > As I go through stuff I'm not using and needing, I am going to offer > for sale one pair of MKS Grip King/lambda silver pedal

[RBW] Re: Pedals and Kickstands for sale

Bump and price drop. I'll reduce my price on the pedals and kick stands combined to $80.00 shipped CONUS. Steve On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 3:36:20 PM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote: > > Hi Forum, > As I go through stuff I'm not using and needing, I am going to offer > for sale one pair of MK

[RBW] Re: Pedals and Cycling Shoes for Feet Shaped Feet

Hi Patrick, I've tried many options for my wide feet. For the Roadini I also use Sidi Genius Mega's too (like Matt). For my commuter I've got Hope pedals. They're expensive but I've found them to be a tough, well made, wide platform for mashing in thin soled shoes. I was wearing Vivos exclusive

[RBW] Re: Pedals and Cycling Shoes for Feet Shaped Feet

Patrick: Great idea! I have a few pairs of Vivos and would love to try that stiffening strategy. I have a neuroma in one of my feet, which means I can really only do street shoes and pedals for 6-7 miles before things go numb. Works fine for my commute, but not for going out all day. After a l

[RBW] Re: Pedals and Cycling Shoes for Feet Shaped Feet

You are right, Ron, feet come in many forms, but very few of those forms match shoe lasts in most shoes until after the shoes have deformed the feet to fit the lasts. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. T

[RBW] Re: Pedals and Cycling Shoes for Feet Shaped Feet

"LEMSMEHAVEIT" is their coupon code for 25% off right now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: Pedals and Cycling Shoes for Feet Shaped Feet

Campsaver.com has sales regularly on the Lems shoes, all models. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups

[RBW] Re: Pedals and Cycling Shoes for Feet Shaped Feet

The Lems Primal are the most comfortable shoes I've ever worn (even more comfortable, to me, than the Vivobarefoot shoes I wore for years). The bottom isn't as thin and flexible as Vivo, but it's also not quite as stiff as Patrick's looking for, I suspect. But at least it IS thick enough that I

[RBW] Re: Pedals and Cycling Shoes for Feet Shaped Feet

Lum, Lems will be introducing a non-slip sole (their current sole is horrible on trails, rather nonsensical for a company in Boulder, CO. Sardonic grin.). I may try them again once they have a descent sole. Though I like the Ra II’s, they curve the big toe in too early and I’d prefer a bit more

[RBW] Re: Pedals and Cycling Shoes for Feet Shaped Feet

Deac, you have wide feet - our feet are shaped totally different. My ice-skate feet are much narrower, widest about an inch inward from my little toe, and my index toe is my longest. On Saturday, June 16, 2018 at 7:54:27 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > The idea ought to be simple. Shoes t

[RBW] Re: Pedals and Cycling Shoes for Feet Shaped Feet

Lems makes good foot shaped, zero drop shoes. But they are not cycling shoes. I think you are wanting clip ins for the fixiefax? I like Lems 925 and their Boots. EE and hi arch friendly. But I think you said you need ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: Pedals

RBW updated their VP Thin Gripsters page, with a new handy handi-cam video, and a new price. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/pe4.htmhttp://www.rivbike.com/product-p/pe4.htm I'm still really liking these pedals, even if they scrape my shins sometimes when I bang into 'em. All of my shoes stay o

[RBW] Re: Pedals

Altrec is a good outfit - I've probably bought 3 pairs of shoes from them, Merrell sandals and Keen water boots. Feet are very specific animals, though. I have ice-skates with high arches, and Merrell Kahunas are the best thing I've ever done for them. Been through 4 pair and recently hunted

[RBW] Re: Pedals

A friend of mine loves her Ergon PC2 pedals: http://www.ergon-bike.com/us/en/product/pc2 Myself, I am a Shimano A530 kinda guy. On Friday, September 14, 2012 7:26:47 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: > > Now I am back to the Touring pedals and clips-no straps. I wear blue >> canvas Nike tennis shoes.

[RBW] Re: Pedals

> > Now I am back to the Touring pedals and clips-no straps. I wear blue > canvas Nike tennis shoes. Looking for a shoe with a bigger toe box. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit http

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That is much my strategy, tho', since I don't wear street shoes indoors, it is easy for me to slip on shoes with SPD cleats when I want to, say, run errands. I used X-1s for years and liked them a lot; the principle problem with all Speedplays, X's and Frogs alike, is their susceptibility to sand/

[RBW] Re: Pedals

I have been using Speedplay X pedals since the first X1s first came out. It took a week or two to get used to the "float", and I found that cleat placement affected how the float felt, but for years and years I have really liked em. Among other advantages they are way easier to engage than other st

[RBW] Re: Pedals

> > @ Brewster: > I had the *Light Action pedals* - too easy to slip out, and hard to engage, walk like a duck. Now have *Frogs*. Easy to engage, strong holding power. But I still walk like a duck (ngaap). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW O

Re: [RBW] Re: Pedals

Evolve Cruzer. Light and comfy! I have two pairs and wear them at work and on the bike. Haven't clipped in since I started wearing these. Props to Amit for prompting me to check these out. Zappos has 'em... Brian Seattle, WA On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Robert Barr wrote: > I agree w

Re: [RBW] Re: Pedals

I agree with Ron - form follows function. I haven't regularly ridden another pedal since I put on GKs over 3 years ago. Most interesting to me is that I like them with my 11.5 EEE feet, and my wife likes them with her much smaller and narrower feet. Bob On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Matt Beebe

[RBW] Re: Pedals

I still ride with clips and straps on my daily commuter, but the straps are set fairly wide open to facilitate ease of use and to accommodate my toe-clip covers: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/3626514094/in/set-72157630921829368 Underneath is this kind of older Shimano BMX platform: htt

[RBW] Re: Pedals

My favorite combination includes Sketcher Journeyman camping sandals on spiked Grip Kings. If it gets chilly, take along wool socks. I see VO is soon offering a wide spiked platform pedal as well. On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:38:54 PM UTC-4, Ryan Ray wrote: > Started with platforms > Went t

[RBW] Re: Pedals

FWIW, while on the subject of shoes & pedals, I just got a pair of vivobarefoot "Breatho Trail" shoes this week and they are by far the most comfortable shoe I've ever had, and they are awesome in terms of ride performance and comfort. They are sort of like Vibram Fivefingers but thicker and don't

Re: [RBW] Re: Pedals

Cool idea, but my whole point for using these pedals is that they don't chew up my footwear (or feet if barefoot), and I have found that I don't miss the grippiness of pins or whatever. On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:37:42 PM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote: > > Grip Tape. $5 at the skate s

Re: [RBW] Re: Pedals

Grip Tape. $5 at the skate shop will put gription on every pedal you own. They have enough stickability to ride fixed offroad with no other retention. Skateboard pedal decks: http://problemsolversbike.com/blog/comments/how_to_make_skateboard_pedal_decks_for_clipless_pedals/ It makes MKS GR-9s

[RBW] Re: Pedals

Fair enough. I'm a form follows function guy. In spite of all my gray bags, I have an olive Lemolo tool roll, because its the best design I've ever seen. The long platform of the GK is what makes them work for distributing the load and letting you move your feet around a bit. If you search

Re: [RBW] Re: Pedals

Sorry my post wasn't clear. I am using these pedals- they don't grip well, but I got used to it, and don't have any trouble keeping my feet on them. On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:03:44 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Those pedals are the same as or very similar to the stock pedals o

Re: [RBW] Re: Pedals

Those pedals are the same as or very similar to the stock pedals on my friend's lately purchased Novara Fusion and I have to say that, at least with boat-type slip ons, those on the Novara, at least, don't grip very well. What I'd like to see is rubber block pedals with a half clip, but I suppose

[RBW] Re: Pedals

I grew up using beartraps and BMX pedals with pins, but lately am more and more inclined to use less aggressively grippy flat pedals such as rubber blocks or "comfort pedals" like these

[RBW] Re: Pedals

I think the Grip Kings are the ugliest pieces of kit that RBW sells. Clunky and strangely-shaped. And they don't even come standard with the requisite set screws, which are needed to hold your shoes in place. On the other hand, the VP Gripsters are fantastic. Thin, light, pre-installed (with th

[RBW] Re: Pedals

On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 2:38:15 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: > > I am torn between my speedplay clipless and platforms. I seem to switch >> them up alot. >> >> > I will say that clipless is the ultimate in riding comfort and attachment, > for me. > But it sure is nice to get off a bike

[RBW] Re: Pedals

> > I am torn between my speedplay clipless and platforms. I seem to switch > them up alot. > > I will say that clipless is the ultimate in riding comfort and attachment, for me. But it sure is nice to get off a bike and be able to walk around in regular shoes. -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Pedals

Riv's MKS Grip King (Lambda) pedals are the best thing since Technomic quills. I can ride in my Merrell sandals and they stick like glue. They pedals are the final touch in my upright riding adjustment. I have a compression injury in my left knee from a car wreck when I was young. Riding on

[RBW] Re: Pedals

Yea I found that when riding unconnected I need a pedal that has some 'tooth' so I use BMX platform pedals with pins. The Grip Kings with the custom pins added probably work the same too. I used to pedal on the MKS touring pedals but in rain they were too slippery hence the change to the BMX p

[RBW] Re: Pedals

I feel best when riding in birkenstocks (when it's dry out). The simple "Arizona" model, with two top straps and no rear strap. On MKS touring pedals. Because I live in Portland, I'll need to re-evaluate footwear as the rains come. Previous winters I've ridden in Timberline oxfords. No complai