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I laughed out loud. Good luck with your question re: wheels! As for grips, I can offer a plug for the white Ergon grips, which somehow are much sportier than the black ones. I love them on my Platy, and I think they would look smashing on your Atlantis. Leah On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at

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I just ordered a custom pair of silver anodized MSW Cliffhangers through Peter White Cycles, though they won't arrive until late March or early April. I also had checked in with Velocity by email a few weeks back and was told that their standard silver anodized rims (unlike my machined sidewa

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Velocity A-23 rims come in silver, are tubeless compatible, and have a brake track. I have a pir I'm going to build up for my Sam as soon as I track down the right hubs. Mike M On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 5:32:18 PM UTC-8 Hugh Smitham wrote: > So as not to offend any long-term members on

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I like shiny silver as well. My 650B rando bike has a SON front hub and a Suzue Classica cassette rear with Pacenti Brevet rims and 650B x 42 BSPs. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 8:32:18 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote: > So as not to offend any long-term members on this

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Any Velocity rim can be had in silver, they are simply not stocked in silver, you can also get polished or many custom colors. You can also get them in any drilling. It is only necessary to wait for the next production run. I have sets of polished silver 650B Cliffhangers in 40 spoke on my Bomb

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Hugh, No personal or first hand usage experience to offer and I've not yet had a chance to fully read all replies so this may have already been mentioned but it might be worth checking out Velo Orange's Voyager rim - it made it's way onto my shortlist for a potential wheel build based on similar

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I also wanted to point out the VO Voyager rim, exactly between the Atlas and Cliffhanger width, polished silver, rim brake and tubeless compatible. Excellent and will go on my "one day" wheelset when I'm ready for a dyno build with the best stuff (e.g., maybe some hub beyond Shimano's "great but

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Hugh, I have VO Grand Cru hubs on Homer... 2130.9 trouble-free, shiny, silent miles, so far. Dean On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 8:32:18 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote: > So as not to offend any long-term members on this list I did first do a > search and did not find an answer to my questio

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Hugh, I run g ones 2.25 on my Atlantis with Atlas rims. The tire pushes the limit but does work. The tires are solid on turns. I have an older model Atlantis so they barely fit on the frame. I’m curious how you plan on setting up your bike. Your previous Atlantis is one of my favorites, a true

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Thanks for your recommendation. Glad I could give you a laugh :) Hugh On Wed, Feb 3, 2021, 5:43 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! < jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote: > I laughed out loud. > > Good luck with your question re: wheels! As for grips, I can offer a plug > for the white Ergon grips, which som

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Nice to hear from you. I think I'm going to have pro-wheel builder build the wheels and I don't think the ones that you're getting from Peter White are an option? I think those are a custom option The velocity will do?? I look forward to seeing your build. Please post it up on the group when your f

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Hiya Joe, I agree the WI hubs are nice. I have a WI rear hub on my Bantam adventure bike. The buzzing noise is cool except that to the horses in our area it sounds like a rattlesnake :0 Honestly I was hoping to save a little bit of coin on a wheel build. Seriously with the white industry hub it'll

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I built up a rear wheel for a friend's bike build using older generation VO Grand Cru hub. Was fine building up and riding. Alas, the bike wasn't ridden long enough for me to report on long term performance. An other option is Suzue's rear hub. I haven't used their rim brake hub, but I'm about

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Hi Ben, I appreciate the feedback. I was advised by a buddy with a ton more wheel knowledge than I that the Pacenti rims are targeted for Rando bikes with 42-47mm tires. They are narrower than the HED or Quills. I'm going to run a ~55-57mm tire/2.25" g one's. I think I could get away with the Pa

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Hi Michael, Here are the specs for the Cliffhangers and A23's. You'll notice the A23's optimal max tire width is 35mm https://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/cliffhanger-584 And the cliffhanger optimal tire widths are between 45mm and 65mm the schwabe g1's are 2.25 or approximately 56 mm. http

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The wheelset on my Clem is built from the previous generation VO touring hubs (same manufacturer?) laced to Cliffhangers. I've run 2.35 G-One speeds and 55mm Antelope hills on them and both tires set up very easily tubeless using velocity rim tape. I'm really happy with the hubs- they feel re

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Hi Hugh, Sounds like you know what you are after in terms of rim size, and yeah as you found I think you're choices in silver are limited. I'm not trying to argue or change you're mind, but I am going to offer a counterpoint to anyone else you is following this thread. Jan of Bicycle Quarterl

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Ben, You don't sound argumentative and I appreciate your opinion. Is that article online? If it is, I'd appreciate a link, I'm curious to read Jan's opinion on this matter. I was expressing someone else's belief which I think I mentioned. I have had various experiences with larger tires and depen

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Prowheelbuilder.com has the silver color Shimano 105 (R7000) rear hub for $61 and front for $36. 105 is a longer tested product than V-O, if you can live with a non polished finish, and the price is certainly right. I built a 650B set with these hubs and Velocity Synergy rims. More recently I

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Hugh, You and I seem to share the same aesthetic. About a year ago, I purchased a long chain stay Atlantis. I also wanted silver hubs and rims. I worked with James and Candice, the great folks at Analog Cycles, to make my dream bike. It has a James-recommended silver 36H Bitex BX103R rear h

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Hugh, Here's a quick observation from master wheel builder Bill Mould, who inspected my abused White Industries MI5/Velocity Dyad wheelset: Bill took a magnifying glass to each and every spoke hole and nipple and found significant flaking and cracks. He recommended replacing the rim. Next, he

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"You'll notice the A23's optimal max tire width is 35mm" I'm not sure why Velocity says that. And what is "optimal max?" It seems like Optimal and Max are 2 different things? Anyway... I use the chart WTB has on their website here: https://www.wtb.com/pages/tire-rim-fit-chart I've found it to

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Mike, I misstated, velocity doesn't say "optimal" anything on the A23. I extrapolated that from their specs. Meaning 35mm was their recommended max tire width. They use the term"optimal" with the cliffhanger's specs. Sorry for the confusion. Specs RIMS (CLICK FOR COLOR OPTIONS): A23 650c

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Weston, Really helpful info much appreciated Sir. Considering the PNW climate that's a pretty good review. Hugh On Wed, Feb 3, 2021, 9:29 PM Weston Hein wrote: > The wheelset on my Clem is built from the previous generation VO touring > hubs (same manufacturer?) laced to Cliffhangers. I've ru

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Hi Bruce, And thanks for the info. Do you think the A23's would handle a 55mm tire well? Hugh On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 2:47 AM Fullylugged wrote: > Prowheelbuilder.com has the silver color Shimano 105 (R7000) rear hub for > $61 and front for $36. 105 is a longer tested product than V-O, if you c

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Steve, I like "I expect this great bike to be the one bike for the remainder of my riding" I have a similar thought regarding this Atlantis build. I know nothing about the Bitex hubs other than they are a UK based company. I was actually planning on 32 hole rims. I currently weigh in at 180# and

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Hey Andy, Great minds think alike. I need to learn more about this Suzue Classica cassette rear. New to me. I'll ask you the same question I've asked others. Do you think the Pacenti Brevet rims would handle a 55mm tire well? Hugh On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 5:25 AM ascpgh wrote: > I like shiny silv

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Hello Hugh: The A23 is narrow for a 55 to sit well, I think. It’s also shallow compared to the cliffhanger. The Atlas might actually be one for you to consider with 55 tires. Bruce Sent from my iPad > On Feb 4, 2021, at 5:30 PM, Hugh Smitham wrote: > >  > Hi Bruce, > > And thanks for the

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Bruce, I think if I'm being totally honest with myself? I'd like the option to run a tire between a 47 mm and a 55 mm. I think I'd like the option to run a narrower tire if I wanted to? I need to figure which rim would be suitable for that range. I'll look at the Atlas. Thanks, Hugh On Thu, F

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Just my experience on the whole rim width debate as a 185lb rider- tire pressure is the most important variable. I run my tires much lower than most (felt by taking their bikes for a spin and all the comments that I "have a flat tire") and the narrower the rim the easier the tire collapses dur

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Weston, I haven't made it through Jan's entire argument yet still waiting for him to talk tire pressure. So far he's said that the air not the tire side wall hold bike and rider. To your point, that seems like a reasonable expectation, low pressure vs medium to high pressures. To be honest I'm jus

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Hugh, Sounds like you may have already found it, based upon your previous comment. But he is a link to the online article https://www.renehersecycles.com/myth-18-wide-tires-need-wide-rims/ Ben On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 6:11:07 PM UTC-8 Hugh Smitham wrote: > Weston, > > I haven't made

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Ben, I did. Thanks you. Hugh On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 6:48 PM Ben Miller wrote: > Hugh, > > Sounds like you may have already found it, based upon your previous > comment. But he is a link to the online article > https://www.renehersecycles.com/myth-18-wide-tires-need-wide-rims/ > > Ben > > On Thur

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In regards to the VO hub; I just relaced one I have been using on my commuter to it's 3rd rim. Had it since 2013? It is still going fine although I changed, weirdly, the bearings on the freehub a few years back because they had gone a bit crunchy, presumably from me being overly zealous with ch

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I should have said that every fancy hub out there no matter the horrific, inexplicable pricetag pretty much all use the same 6902 bearings and if they ever wear out are very easily replaced. I had to replace the bearings in a Phil Wood and chucked $5 bearings in there and boom smooth as anything

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Hugh, I am riding 650B x 42 BSPs on those Pacenti Brevet rims and it's taken me some time to get used to the smoothness they can provide without delving below the PSI necessary to keep the sidewalls structural enough for quick steering changes and high pedal efforts during a turn. I had to lear

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Id go with those cliff hangers based on the tire width you want to run. The A23 might work but it will look odd to have such a wide tire on a narrower rim. On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 4:42:45 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote: > Hey Andy, > > Great minds think alike. > > I need to learn more ab

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Hiya Bill, I appreciate the compliment on the previous build. Good to hear your wheel tire combination work. On this build I'm going with a more around town lighter setup. Since I posted this on the forum I believe I've decided I'd like to run a tire from 47 mm up to~55mm. I may start out with a

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Hugh, too bad (for me) that you need 650b Voyagers, as I have a set of 700c Voyager rims hanging up. I built them up into wheels but decided to go with Dyads. Could have made you a good deal. I do have a set of silver VP Vice pedals in excellent condition, if you are in need of a pair. I g

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Hi David, I might be interested in those 700c voyagers you're hanging onto. I'll send a PM, too, but I know they don't always come through. If you're interested in selling and don't get a PM, feel free to email me: waterfowl04 (at) gmail (dot) com On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 7:07:36 AM UTC-

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Hi David, I have plenty of VP pedals. I wish they were 650b :) The Atlantis arrived yesterday. Can't wait to build it up. Hugh On Tue, Feb 9, 2021, 7:07 AM David Person wrote: > Hugh, too bad (for me) that you need 650b Voyagers, as I have a set of > 700c Voyager rims hanging up. I built th

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No prob on the pedals. Thought I'd throw it out there. I have two individuals interested in the rims, so that worked out. Do you know what year your Atlantis was made (approx)? On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 11:22:32 AM UTC-8 Hugh Smitham wrote: > Hi David, > > I have plenty of VP pedals.

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2018 On Tue, Feb 9, 2021, 3:26 PM David Person wrote: > No prob on the pedals. Thought I'd throw it out there. I have two > individuals interested in the rims, so that worked out. Do you know what > year your Atlantis was made (approx)? > > On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 11:22:32 AM UTC-8 Hu