POST SCRIPT: Bought my Medium Saddle Sack from Riv today and got the
fiddlesticks discount to boot! :)
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All is well in Riv World. Now DIE thread, DIE!
On Monday, February 3, 2014 11:52:56 AM UTC-8, Brian Campbell wrote:
POST SCRIPT: Bought my Medium Saddle Sack from Riv today and got the
fiddlesticks discount to boot! :)
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If you click on the transactions tag on any transaction post, you will get
the list of nothing but transactions posts. That's how I found my wheelset
from Bob when I was ready to buy them.
On Friday, January 31, 2014 6:32:19 PM UTC-6, Evan Baird wrote:
Other forums have a permanent FS/WTB
Other forums have a permanent FS/WTB sticky thread. If nothing else it
makes it easy to find stuff rather than searching all over a bunch of
separate threads. Cuts down on the noise too.
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On Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:14:19 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
It's *definitely* going down as the last one I'm in for a while. Somebody
mentioned winter on RBW, and although we haven't had much of one here, I
still haven't been able to ride much lately. It shows! I
I don't post here often (because *eep* I do not own a Rivendell!) but I
just wanted to chime in that the sentiment expressed by Jim I suspect
those transactions…are still a small eddy compared the flow of goods from
Walnut Creek seems so totally on the mark to me that I wanted to endorse
it. I
As this thread winds down, I wanted to address a couple o'
list/group/bunch-specific comments which cropped up and caught my eye:
- There will be no vote regarding the continuation of WTB of FS posts. The
reason I added the Transactions - Buy - Sell - Trade tag was so that
folks could ignore
He writes, hopefully...
:)
On 1/30/2014 10:13 AM, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
As this thread winds down,
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Very late to the game here. Apologies if the dust has settled and the wagon
train has moved on. Just wanted to say I placed an order from Riv this
afternoon after debating an Ebay purchase for the same item at virtually
the same price. I thought the advantage to Ebay was the ability to use
I agree completely. Bravo for the soapbox talk. I try and give the
benefit of the doubt to the WTB posts like that, assuming that the people
fishing for a deal really sincerely cannot afford to pay full price. You
are absolutely right, though, that if everybody did it, it would represent
a
+1. So many of the products Rivendell offers are not available anywhere
else. They produce what they want that doesn't exist. That is incredible,
and what they make happens to be incredibly practical and beautiful and
brilliant and hearty and well crafted -- a very rare combination. I want to
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lindsay
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Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site
I agree completely. Bravo for the soapbox talk. I try and give the benefit of
the doubt to the WTB posts like
INVENTORY! Now you are speaking my language. My free-shipping-filler item
now has moved to CX70 front derailers. Anytime I need a few more dollars
in my cart, I'll add one of those. I've got two lifetimes worth of
brakelevers, shiftlevers and rear derailers. ;-)
On Wednesday, January 29,
I agree completely, and might even take it a couple of steps further:
Don't forget that many of those products that are available elsewhere were
actually designed BY Rivendell, with a significant outlay of their time
and/or other resources. It's not as if they even sell *anything* at
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site
I agree completely, and might even take it a couple of steps further:
Don't forget that many of those products that are available elsewhere were
actually designed BY Rivendell, with a significant
Riv sells the Grip King for $56 and VO sells it for $54, and every bike
shop in the country can get them and sell them for about the same. When
Amazon has them for $40 (which they do), you have to give VO a pass.
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:43:20 AM UTC-8, iamkeith wrote:
I agree
We've come to the point where Velo Orange is an enemy of Rivendell? That it
is derivative and knockoff? This is simply stupid. I wonder what Grant has
to say about this?
Patrick Sheesh! Moore, who has been supporting Rivendell since 1994 but
who effing won't indulge in thoughtless cheerleading.
Heard and understood. V-O has brought out some nice stuff (generally
Frenchy style) that was either not widely available or always pricey. I
have some of their fender stuff and may end up with their threadless
decaleur.
They also seem to carry a lot of stuff that only RBW carried, amoung bike
Well, I did say I'd get some flack... I believe that much of what the do
is in fact Riv knock-off. I did NOT say enemy though.
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:01:40 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
We've come to the point where Velo Orange is an enemy of Rivendell? That
it is derivative
Keith: I was angry at the post but I am not angry at you. Peace to you and
your family.
Patrick who really, REALLY should be working on a LI profile and not
engaging in controversies Moore
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 1:10 PM, iamkeith keithhar...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, I did say I'd get some
Grant has already said good luck and best wishes to VO publicly. The two
companies seem to be aimed at slightly different market niches with,
inevitably, some overlap.
I've looked at the VO site a few times but have never bought anything. There
are a couple of small items I would be
I believe V-O carried those first :p
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 12:09:02 PM UTC-8, Doug Van Cleve wrote:
Opinel knives?
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Ya, when I saw VO starting to sell knives and hatchets too...i said
really? come on.
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Please let's back off the V-O comments. Grant has addressed this more than
a few times. There's no there there in that discussion.
It's hard to fault someone who has a decent piece of gear that they will no
longer use, or something they tried out (handlebars, of late, come to mind
here)
Why don't we vote, giving the ultimate decision to the site moderator, as
to whether we want to stop buying/selling/trading on this site.
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I vote that votes to take away people's privileges are inherently bad.
On Jan 29, 2014 4:25 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
Why don't we vote, giving the ultimate decision to the site moderator, as
to whether we want to stop buying/selling/trading on this site.
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On 01/29/2014 04:28 PM, Peter Morgano wrote:
I vote that votes to take away people's privileges are inherently bad.
On Jan 29, 2014 4:25 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com
mailto:john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
Why don't we vote, giving the ultimate decision to the site
moderator, as
Back to Joe's original post...I have two, well actually three but the third
one you already know, stories to tell.
First story: After my big Riv Chica Warrior Caper when I rode down the
bike thief (for newcomers to the list, search the archives), the whole Riv
team sent me a card that
Not everybody can afford the high quality components that Riv insists on
selling, and it's great that there are options for people who want not-dumb
bikes, and can't afford top quality.
iamkeith, I agree wholeheartedly with this, though I take issue with most
everything else you said. As for
On 01/29/2014 04:45 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Not everybody can afford the high quality components that Riv insists
on selling, and it's great that there are options for people who want
not-dumb bikes, and can't afford top quality.
iamkeith, I agree wholeheartedly with this, though I take
I hope it is apparent that my post was focused on WTB, and only for
products Riv currently sells. As I said, if you already own/used the
product and want to sell it, more power to you *and* the buyer; I've bought
and sold many Rivvy things this way. In case that wasn't clear..
Joe let me be
Liesl:
You might have just that fetching look in a new striped wool top they
have! (I ordered one after getting the RBW email) and will report on it
after trying it on. yes, RBW clothes cost more than some other places,
but they've been good on the whole. Wore the 2d generation seersucker
Jim,
Thank you for being the voice of moderation/reason. Peter M. Yes and a
vigorous yes.
I will continue to use WTB transactions within my sense of reason.
Rivendell's sucess or failure will not be determined by WTB transaction
on this list-serve by posters like me. I usually buy directly
Used bikes and parts are pretty much the only kind I consider buying. And I
believe I have probably sold as much or more here than I've purchased. I
appreciate your concern for RBW, but don't believe we should arbitrarily
limit the second hand market.
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:25:03 AM
I've always found that Rivendell has better prices on most things than can
be found elsewhere - Crane bell for $12 - what a deal. I keep an active
Rivendell wish list and place several orders every year. When I find
better prices, or I want something that Rivendell doesn't carry, then I
Ron, I agree with what you wrote: Let's see, what I have sold here. A
matched set of gray Sackville bags which were out of production - the buyer
posted the query - and a couple of 7-speed freewheels. That kind of
trading as others have noted, is a good thing; one in which I have
I ordered a striped wool top too! I hope I look fetching in mine. More
likely, I'll be such a dog that people tell me to FETCH!
:-)
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I like seeing FS posts here, and I'm happy I can sell some things
sometimes. I don't buy very much from Rivendell, but I don't buy very much
of anything. My Rivendell cycling life is pretty satisfactory with what I
have. Almost all my new-purchase Riv items come for
Birthday/Xmas/Anniversary,
Rivendell is a company that has promoted good things, and they are nice
people. But based on my limited understanding, this forum is hosted by
google and moderated by a volunteer. In other words, there's no reason why
this forum should be devoted solely to increasing Riv's sales. You should
Everybody likes FS posts. 100% of everybody likes FS posts. FS posts are
super fun.
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As a rivbike enthusiast's forum, I would think that the joy of RBW bikes
and parts would include trading/buying/selling, etc.
I have found some great used stuff here before that I couldn't find easily
anywhere else.
However, I prefer to buy new bike parts. And when I buy new, I prefer
Including me. I've stated what I was referring to twice now, so I'm gonna
have to let this thing run if some people still think I was talking about
FS posts. I wasn't.
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 4:10:21 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Everybody likes FS posts. 100% of everybody likes FS
I posted the original WTB request that Grant responded to. I asked if
anyone had a medium saddle bag for sale. If I did not get a response,
(which I did not) I was planning to buy a new one from Riv, which will
happen shortly. If it matters, I have been buying things from Riv since
2006.
I
Everyone likes FS posts, Including Joe Bernard most of all. That was my
point.
I posted that to defend your Original Post. Nobody anywhere in this thread
has said one negative thing about FS posts, least of all Joe.
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 4:27:25 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
Brian,
While I basically have nothing to say on this list anymore, I don't find
the type of post you did to be offensive. There are times when looking at
all the bags and other stuff I have the thought comes hmm, maybe someone
will ask for one of these on the Riv list.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
Bill,
let's be ultra clear here...Joe's post took exception to WTB posts.
That's what started this storm of absurdity. IMO there is nothing wrong
with Brian's post. He like others and I look to save a bit before first
buying from Riv. I'am glad others feel so freely about their money and
don't
I vote Brian's post is OK, too. We spend a bit of money on this stuff, and
there are times when I may want to turn some of it back into cash. Hey, I
like Acorn bags, too, and I'm glad we can talk about them here. Ron makes
some really nice stuff, and his service is Top Notch (as is
Hugh
Joe didn't say there was anything wrong with Brian's post either. He just
said that some WTB posts made him queasy. He said he worried that we as a
group might damage Rivs bottom line if it happened way too much. I think
this has been a perfectly fine exchange of ideas. I always
H.G. Wells — 'Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair
for the future of the human race.'
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 7:11:28 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Hugh
Joe didn't say there was anything wrong with Brian's post either. He just
said that some WTB posts made
Well gosh, that was fun. And about as popular as I expected.
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:39:48 PM UTC-8, LBleriot wrote:
As a recent beneficiary of a WTB post and a loyal Riv customer, I object
to any attempt to curtail FS or WTB threads. This site is not Riv
sponsored and I'm pretty
I vote for leaving WTB/FS/WTT as part of this list. I've found numerous great
items here (most recently my new Blériot), and I've sent many items on to new
homes where they are used and enjoyed.
It's always a wiling seller/willing buyer transaction. If you don't want to
buy or sell, just
Bill,
I have to admit that 99% of the time I post I do have a smile on my face
and I love this group so when I perceive an elitist vibe creep into the
works it really cuts. I feel that the notion if it ain't broke don't fix
it is applicable here so many times we fiddle with something great and
Joe, 50 replies in 8 hours - how popular do you want to be? I think we're
all having fun.
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 7:45:44 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
Well gosh, that was fun. And about as popular as I expected.
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:39:48 PM UTC-8, LBleriot wrote:
As
And Bill if Joe had bought a round of pitchers of good stout let me drink
one before popping this topic I'd of had a huge grin...there now I found my
grin.
~Hugh
Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein
http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
time for another pint, then...and another. all is good in my book. i have no
beef. i'm beefless
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No and again the list goes a wee bit nuts. That's a good thing, considering
the vast array of characters here.
Brian, please don't give anyone on the list any power of influence over you
or how you feel or what you post in future. I'm delighted you're here and
are looking for a great bag to
Where's the beef? The beef got pounded! Tip the pint take a long draw. Grin.
~Hugh
Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein
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On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd probably want to be less popular now than when this topic seemed like a
good idea this morning. But that's my own personal pathology for me to deal
with..I'm a notorious second-guesser about these sorts of things. About 75%
of everything I contribute to internet forums should come with a
:-)
~Hugh
Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein
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On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd probably want to be less popular now than when this topic seemed like
Hey all thanks for the kind words! I was not offended personally by
anybody's post. I thought Grant's original post summed things up quite
nicely. I just did not like the way the thread was headed. Seemed below the
general discourse on the list. BTW, anyone have an Roadeo in 59cm they want
to
Joe Bernard, I think your thought was fine. I like these discussions. Its what
makes this website so great. Very few places left that a discussion can be had
without bad feelings.
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Howdy!
I think the first thing we should acknowledge here is that the INTENT of the
original post was to encourage people to support Rivendell- a company we all
like/love. Who amongst us doesn't have a story of someone or someones at
Rivendell going the extra mile? It is a great company,
Ahh... Winter time on the RBW list...
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YES!! Well said Leafslayer, favorite post
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
Ahh... Winter time on the RBW list...
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Mikes, you should see now surly the bamboo-fly-rod trout fishers get in the
winter.
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:39:10 PM UTC-6, Mike wrote:
Ahh... Winter time on the RBW list...
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Another side of WTB posts is the idea that someone may have something
sitting around that they don't want / use / like / ?? but haven't gotten
around to offering for sale. Posting a WTB can motivate someone to move
something along that's just gathering dust. Bike parts used are happier
than
All,
I apologize for my earlier post that sort of derailed this conversation
right at the beginning. My premise really wasn't even valid, considering
the original point of the thread. I happened to take a quick look at the
board, saw something that struck a chord, and hastily posted without
This thread should go down in RBW Owner's Bunch history as WTBgate.
--mike
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Agreed ... And isn't re-using old stuff (even other people's old stuff) part of
the whole idea of living more sustainably? Reduce, *Reuse*, Recycle?
If a slightly used item will suit my needs just as well as a brand new one, I
will generally go with the used item, if I can find it. I shop at
It's *definitely* going down as the last one I'm in for a while. Somebody
mentioned winter on RBW, and although we haven't had much of one here, I
still haven't been able to ride much lately. It shows! I shall go off-grid
and on-pedals for a few months. Bye Rivvers!
Joe I'd love to stay, but
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