[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

All is well in Riv World. Now DIE thread, DIE! On Monday, February 3, 2014 11:52:56 AM UTC-8, Brian Campbell wrote: > POST SCRIPT: Bought my Medium Saddle Sack from Riv today and got the > "fiddlesticks" discount to boot! :) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goog

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

POST SCRIPT: Bought my Medium Saddle Sack from Riv today and got the "fiddlesticks" discount to boot! :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

If you click on the transactions tag on any transaction post, you will get the list of nothing but transactions posts. That's how I found my wheelset from Bob when I was ready to buy them. On Friday, January 31, 2014 6:32:19 PM UTC-6, Evan Baird wrote: > > Other forums have a permanent FS/WTB

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Other forums have a permanent FS/WTB sticky thread. If nothing else it makes it easy to find stuff rather than searching all over a bunch of separate threads. Cuts down on the noise too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To u

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Very late to the game here. Apologies if the dust has settled and the wagon train has moved on. Just wanted to say I placed an order from Riv this afternoon after debating an Ebay purchase for the same item at virtually the same price. I thought the advantage to Ebay was the ability to use PayP

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He writes, hopefully... :) On 1/30/2014 10:13 AM, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: As this thread winds down, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-ow

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

As this thread winds down, I wanted to address a couple o' list/group/bunch-specific comments which cropped up and caught my eye: - There will be no vote regarding the continuation of WTB of FS posts. The reason I added the "Transactions - Buy - Sell - Trade" tag was so that folks could ignore

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

I don't post here often (because *eep* I do not own a Rivendell!) but I just wanted to chime in that the sentiment expressed by Jim "I suspect those transactions…are still a small eddy compared the flow of goods from Walnut Creek" seems so totally on the mark to me that I wanted to endorse it.

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

take photos, please On Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:14:19 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: > > It's *definitely* going down as the last one I'm in for a while. Somebody > mentioned "winter on RBW", and although we haven't had much of one here, I > still haven't been able to ride much lately. It sho

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

It's *definitely* going down as the last one I'm in for a while. Somebody mentioned "winter on RBW", and although we haven't had much of one here, I still haven't been able to ride much lately. It shows! I shall go off-grid and on-pedals for a few months. Bye Rivvers! Joe "I'd love to stay, bu

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Agreed ... And isn't re-using old stuff (even other people's old stuff) part of the whole idea of living more sustainably? "Reduce, *Reuse*, Recycle"? If a slightly used item will suit my needs just as well as a brand new one, I will generally go with the used item, if I can find it. I shop at

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

This thread should go down in RBW Owner's Bunch history as WTBgate. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@goog

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Another side of WTB posts is the idea that someone may have something sitting around that they don't want / use / like / ?? but haven't gotten around to offering for sale. Posting a WTB can motivate someone to move something along that's just gathering dust. Bike parts used are happier than b

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

All, I apologize for my earlier post that sort of derailed this conversation right at the beginning. My premise really wasn't even valid, considering the original point of the thread. I happened to take a quick look at the board, saw something that struck a chord, and hastily posted without r

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Mikes, you should see now surly the bamboo-fly-rod trout fishers get in the winter. On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:39:10 PM UTC-6, Mike wrote: > > Ahh... Winter time on the RBW list... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

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YES!! Well said Leafslayer, favorite post On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Mike wrote: > Ahh... Winter time on the RBW list... > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving em

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Ahh... Winter time on the RBW list... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, s

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Howdy! I think the first thing we should acknowledge here is that the INTENT of the original post was to encourage people to support Rivendell- a company we all like/love. Who amongst us doesn't have a story of someone or someones at Rivendell going the extra mile? It is a great company, filled

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Joe Bernard, I think your thought was fine. I like these discussions. Its what makes this website so great. Very few places left that a discussion can be had without bad feelings. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsu

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Hey all thanks for the kind words! I was not offended personally by anybody's post. I thought Grant's original post summed things up quite nicely. I just did not like the way the thread was headed. Seemed below the general discourse on the list. BTW, anyone have an Roadeo in 59cm they want to s

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:-) ~Hugh "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving." -- Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > I'd probably want to be less popular now than when this topic seemed like > a good idea thi

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Where's the beef? The beef got pounded! Tip the pint take a long draw. Grin. ~Hugh "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving." -- Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > time for another

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

I'd probably want to be less popular now than when this topic seemed like a good idea this morning. But that's my own personal pathology for me to deal with..I'm a notorious second-guesser about these sorts of things. About 75% of everything I contribute to internet forums should come with a Mi

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No and again the list goes a wee bit nuts. That's a good thing, considering the vast array of characters here. Brian, please don't give anyone on the list any power of influence over you or how you feel or what you post in future. I'm delighted you're here and are looking for a great bag to hav

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time for another pint, then...and another. all is good in my book. i have no beef. i'm beefless -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owner

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And Bill if Joe had bought a round of pitchers of good stout let me drink one before popping this topic I'd of had a huge grin...there now I found my grin. ~Hugh "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving." -- Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Joe, 50 replies in 8 hours - how popular do you want to be? I think we're all having fun. On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 7:45:44 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Well gosh, that was fun. And about as popular as I expected. > > On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:39:48 PM UTC-8, LBleriot wrote: >

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Bill, I have to admit that 99% of the time I post I do have a smile on my face and I love this group so when I perceive an elitist vibe creep into the works it really cuts. I feel that the notion "if it ain't broke don't fix it" is applicable here so many times we fiddle with something great and

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

I vote for leaving WTB/FS/WTT as part of this list. I've found numerous great items here (most recently my new Blériot), and I've sent many items on to new homes where they are used and enjoyed. It's always a "wiling seller/willing buyer" transaction. If you don't want to buy or sell, just ign

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Well gosh, that was fun. And about as popular as I expected. On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:39:48 PM UTC-8, LBleriot wrote: > As a recent beneficiary of a WTB post and a loyal Riv customer, I object > to any attempt to curtail FS or WTB threads. This site is not Riv > sponsored and I'm prett

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

H.G. Wells — 'Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race.' On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 7:11:28 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Hugh > > Joe didn't say there was anything wrong with Brian's post either. He just > said that some WTB posts mad

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Hugh Joe didn't say there was anything wrong with Brian's post either. He just said that some WTB posts made him queasy. He said he worried that we as a group might damage Rivs bottom line if it happened way too much. I think this has been a perfectly fine exchange of ideas. I always imagin

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I vote Brian's post is OK, too. We spend a bit of money on this stuff, and there are times when I may want to turn some of it back into cash. Hey, I like Acorn bags, too, and I'm glad we can talk about them here. Ron makes some really nice stuff, and his service is Top Notch (as is Rivendell'

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Bill, let's be ultra clear here...Joe's post took exception to "WTB" posts. That's what started this storm of absurdity. IMO there is nothing wrong with Brian's post. He like others and I look to save a bit before first buying from Riv. I'am glad others feel so freely about their money and don't a

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Brian, While I basically have nothing to say on this list anymore, I don't find the type of post you did to be offensive. There are times when looking at all the bags and other stuff I have the thought comes "hmm, maybe someone will ask for one of these on the Riv list." Eric Platt St. Paul, MN

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Everyone likes FS posts, Including Joe Bernard most of all. That was my point. I posted that to defend your Original Post. Nobody anywhere in this thread has said one negative thing about FS posts, least of all Joe. On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 4:27:25 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Incl

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

I posted the original WTB request that Grant responded to. I asked if anyone had a medium saddle bag for sale. If I did not get a response, (which I did not) I was planning to buy a new one from Riv, which will happen shortly. If it matters, I have been buying things from Riv since 2006. I fi

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Including me. I've stated what I was referring to twice now, so I'm gonna have to let this thing run if some people still think I was talking about FS posts. I wasn't. On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 4:10:21 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Everybody likes FS posts. 100% of everybody likes FS po

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

> > As a rivbike enthusiast's forum, I would think that the joy of RBW bikes > and parts would include trading/buying/selling, etc. > I have found some great used stuff here before that I couldn't find easily anywhere else. However, I prefer to buy new bike parts. And when I buy new, I pre

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Everybody likes FS posts. 100% of everybody likes FS posts. FS posts are super fun. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+uns

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Rivendell is a company that has promoted good things, and they are nice people. But based on my limited understanding, this forum is hosted by google and moderated by a volunteer. In other words, there's no reason why this forum should be devoted solely to increasing Riv's sales. You should cer

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

I like seeing FS posts here, and I'm happy I can sell some things sometimes. I don't buy very much from Rivendell, but I don't buy very much of anything. My Rivendell cycling life is pretty satisfactory with what I have. Almost all my new-purchase Riv items come for Birthday/Xmas/Anniversary, w

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

I ordered a striped wool top too! I hope I look fetching in mine. More likely, I'll be such a dog that people tell me to "FETCH!" :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving email

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Ron, I agree with what you wrote: "Let's see, what I have sold here. A matched set of gray Sackville bags which were out of production - the buyer posted the query - and a couple of 7-speed freewheels." That kind of trading as others have noted, is a good thing; one in which I have participa

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

I've always found that Rivendell has better prices on most things than can be found elsewhere - Crane bell for $12 - what a deal. I keep an active Rivendell wish list and place several orders every year. When I find better prices, or I want something that Rivendell doesn't carry, then I purch

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Used bikes and parts are pretty much the only kind I consider buying. And I believe I have probably sold as much or more here than I've purchased. I appreciate your concern for RBW, but don't believe we should arbitrarily limit the second hand market. On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:25:03 AM

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Jim, Thank you for being the voice of moderation/reason. Peter M. Yes and a vigorous yes. I will continue to use "WTB" transactions within my sense of reason. Rivendell's sucess or failure will not be determined by "WTB" transaction on this list-serve by posters like me. I usually buy directl

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Liesl: You might have just that fetching look in a new striped wool top they have! (I ordered one after getting the RBW email) and will report on it after trying it on. yes, RBW clothes cost more than some other places, but they've been good on the whole. Wore the 2d generation seersucker ri

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

I hope it is apparent that my post was focused on WTB, and only for products Riv currently sells. As I said, if you already own/used the product and want to sell it, more power to you *and* the buyer; I've bought and sold many Rivvy things this way. In case that wasn't clear.. Joe "let me be c

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On 01/29/2014 04:45 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: "Not everybody can afford the high quality components that Riv insists on selling, and it's great that there are options for people who want not-dumb bikes, and can't afford top quality." iamkeith, I agree wholeheartedly with this, though I take is

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

"Not everybody can afford the high quality components that Riv insists on selling, and it's great that there are options for people who want not-dumb bikes, and can't afford top quality." iamkeith, I agree wholeheartedly with this, though I take issue with most everything else you said. As for

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Back to Joe's original post...I have two, well actually three but the third one you already know, stories to tell. First story: After my big Riv Chica Warrior Caper when I rode down the bike thief (for newcomers to the list, search the archives), the whole Riv team sent me a card that ever

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On 01/29/2014 04:28 PM, Peter Morgano wrote: I vote that votes to take away people's privileges are inherently bad. On Jan 29, 2014 4:25 PM, "Michael" > wrote: Why don't we vote, giving the ultimate decision to the site moderator, as to whether we want t

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I vote that votes to take away people's privileges are inherently bad. On Jan 29, 2014 4:25 PM, "Michael" wrote: > > > Why don't we vote, giving the ultimate decision to the site moderator, as > to whether we want to stop buying/selling/trading on this site. > > > -- > You received this message

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Why don't we vote, giving the ultimate decision to the site moderator, as to whether we want to stop buying/selling/trading on this site. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receivin

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Please let's back off the V-O comments. Grant has addressed this more than a few times. There's no "there" there in that discussion. It's hard to fault someone who has a decent piece of gear that they will no longer use, or something they tried out (handlebars, of late, come to mind here) t

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Ya, when I saw VO starting to sell knives and hatchets too...i said "really? come on." -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunc

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I believe V-O carried those first :p On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 12:09:02 PM UTC-8, Doug Van Cleve wrote: > > Opinel knives? > >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving em

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Grant has already said "good luck and best wishes" to VO publicly. The two companies seem to be aimed at slightly different market niches with, inevitably, some overlap. I've looked at the VO site a few times but have never bought anything. There are a couple of small items I would be interes

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Keith: I was angry at the post but I am not angry at you. Peace to you and your family. Patrick "who really, REALLY should be working on a LI profile and not engaging in controversies" Moore On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 1:10 PM, iamkeith wrote: > Well, I did say I'd get some flack... I believe th

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Well, I did say I'd get some flack... I believe that much of what the do is in fact Riv knock-off. I did NOT say "enemy" though. On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:01:40 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > We've come to the point where Velo Orange is an enemy of Rivendell? That > it is derivati

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Heard and understood. V-O has brought out some nice stuff (generally Frenchy style) that was either not widely available or always pricey. I have some of their fender stuff and may end up with their threadless decaleur. They also seem to carry a lot of stuff that only RBW carried, amoung bike sh

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We've come to the point where Velo Orange is an enemy of Rivendell? That it is derivative and knockoff? This is simply stupid. I wonder what Grant has to say about this? Patrick "Sheesh!" Moore, who has been supporting Rivendell since 1994 but who effing won't indulge in thoughtless cheerleading.

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

Riv sells the Grip King for $56 and VO sells it for $54, and every bike shop in the country can get them and sell them for about the same. When Amazon has them for $40 (which they do), you have to give VO a pass. On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:43:20 AM UTC-8, iamkeith wrote: > > I agree co

RE: [RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site I agree completely, and might even take it a couple of steps further: Don't forget that many of those products that are available elsewhere were actually designed BY Rivendell, with a signif

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

I agree completely, and might even take it a couple of steps further: Don't forget that many of those products that are available elsewhere were actually designed BY Rivendell, with a significant outlay of their time and/or other resources. It's not as if they even sell *anything* at unreason

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INVENTORY! Now you are speaking my language. My free-shipping-filler item now has moved to CX70 front derailers. Anytime I need a few more dollars in my cart, I'll add one of those. I've got two lifetimes worth of brakelevers, shiftlevers and rear derailers. ;-) On Wednesday, January 29,

RE: [RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lindsay Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:06 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site I agree completely. Bravo for the soapbox talk. I try and give the benefit of the doubt to the WTB posts like

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

+1. So many of the products Rivendell offers are not available anywhere else. They produce what they want that doesn't exist. That is incredible, and what they make happens to be incredibly practical and beautiful and brilliant and hearty and well crafted -- a very rare combination. I want to r

[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

I agree completely. Bravo for the soapbox talk. I try and give the benefit of the doubt to the WTB posts like that, assuming that the people fishing for a deal really sincerely cannot afford to pay full price. You are absolutely right, though, that if everybody did it, it would represent a r