[RBW] Re: Shellac cork tape

2010-07-12 Thread EricP
Re-wrapped the bars Sunday morning. No shellac. But, yes, using the twining method shown by Rivendell in a recent video. While at it, replaced the DirtDrop stem with a regular Nitto. Probably placebo effect, but the handling seems to have slightly changed for the better. A photo here - http:/

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork tape

2010-07-09 Thread William
Ginz Yes, something like that. It was my first time so I am by no means an expert. I bought the cheapest padded tape at REI. It was Profile brand. With one roll I was able to do like a 7 inch layer on each 'grip'. With the other roll I did another layer of padded tape. Then I took a single r

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork tape

2010-07-09 Thread William
Golly Brian, what I wouldn't give for a copper AHH. That is freaky styly On Jul 9, 12:30 pm, Brian Hanson wrote: > I had great luck with the shellacked cloth over cork - nice thick bar that > feels like cotton goodness.  No cracking, just nice > beausage.http://picasaweb.google.com/stonehog/Por

Re: [RBW] Re: Shellac cork tape

2010-07-09 Thread Brian Hanson
I had great luck with the shellacked cloth over cork - nice thick bar that feels like cotton goodness. No cracking, just nice beausage. http://picasaweb.google.com/stonehog/PorteurSetup122009#5416110521520306658 Brian On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 12:11 PM, William wrote: > I'm just trying shellacked

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork tape

2010-07-09 Thread Ginz
What is your method for wrapping cloth over cork, specifically on the Bullmoose? Is it two layers of cork and one layer of cloth? Something like that...? On Jul 9, 3:11 pm, William wrote: > I'm just trying shellacked cloth OVER padded tape.  Yeah, it's for the > 'grips' on my bullmoose bars, but

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork tape

2010-07-09 Thread William
I'm just trying shellacked cloth OVER padded tape. Yeah, it's for the 'grips' on my bullmoose bars, but I know several folks who use cloth over padded on drop bars as well. Does shellacked cloth over padded tape crack the same way shellacked cork does? On Jul 9, 11:12 am, CycloFiend wrote: > on

Re: [RBW] Re: Shellac cork tape

2010-07-09 Thread CycloFiend
on 7/9/10 6:18 AM, Bill M. at bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: > "Cork" tape is generally washable. A scrub with a little Simple Green > and water should make even white tape look clean again. Murphy's Oil Soap will do the same. -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galle

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork tape

2010-07-09 Thread JoelMatthews
> "Cork" tape is generally washable. A scrub with a little Simple Green > and water should make even white tape look clean again. I switched over to cloth. The Viva/Toshi from Jitensha and Newbaums are comfortable enough for me. If I go back to cork (and right you are with the quotes, cork tape

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork tape

2010-07-09 Thread Justin August
I like the Fizik tape. Thinner than cork, thicker than cloth with a nice clean look. On Jul 9, 9:18 am, "Bill M." wrote: > "Cork" tape is generally washable.  A scrub with a little Simple Green > and water should make even white tape look clean again. > > Bill > > On Jul 9, 5:52 am, JoelMatthews

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork tape

2010-07-09 Thread Bill M.
"Cork" tape is generally washable. A scrub with a little Simple Green and water should make even white tape look clean again. Bill On Jul 9, 5:52 am, JoelMatthews wrote: > I used to use the Cinelli cork tape raw.  Very comfortable grip. > Definitely gets dirty quick. > > On Jul 9, 7:47 am, Eric

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork tape

2010-07-09 Thread jlvota
The same problem happened to me all the time when I used to shellac cork and I did not care for it because of all of the cracking. I also did not like how slippery it felt in the rain and with gloves on in the winter. I strongly prefer the feel of unshellaced cork to the shellaced variety. As Jo

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork tape

2010-07-09 Thread JoelMatthews
I used to use the Cinelli cork tape raw. Very comfortable grip. Definitely gets dirty quick. On Jul 9, 7:47 am, EricP wrote: > Been staring at the bar tape on my Sam Hillborne, which is cork what > has been twined and shellac'ed.  And trying to decide, is it time to > replace it and go "dry"?  T

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-05-02 Thread JoelMatthews
I bought a pair of Miesha Portuguese Cork Tree Grips and put a few coats of VO blonder flake shellac over the past couple of days. The blonde shellac does not really change the color or character of the cork. Rather, like putting mineral oil on fine wood it enhances the flecks and patterns in th

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-05-02 Thread fenderbender
On 1 Maj, 20:52, Dave Craig wrote: > > You know what they say about men with bigger hands . . . they need > bigger bars! > > Dave Oh, tell me about it. http://www.capabilityevents.co.uk/images/001Sept08/Big/KIF_7020.jpg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this me

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-05-02 Thread Ron Farnsworth
few times with some generic general purpose cleaners and it looks good as new, well almost anyway as it does look a bit burnished at my favorite positions. --- On Fri, 5/1/09, Dave Craig wrote: From: Dave Craig Subject: [RBW] Re: Shellac cork? To: "RBW Owners Bunch" Date: Friday, May 1, 2

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-05-02 Thread MM
Yellow cloth + amber shellac = Brooks Honey after several coats. Available now at Rivendell (bought yellow rolls today), VO, and Jitensha in Berkeley. I use trash bags or old dry cleaning bags to prevent drip. Alcohol removes drips and spatters quickly if you to hit the spot twice about a minute a

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-05-02 Thread fenderbender
On 1 Maj, 21:10, Bill Connell wrote: > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:04 PM, fenderbender wrote: > More layers will give you a slick finish, which may or may not be what > you want. There are places to get cloth in colors - Rivendell, > Hiawatha Cyclery, probably Harris. IIRC, yellow tape with a few c

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-05-01 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 3:04 PM, fenderbender wrote: > > Can only get white cloth tape and light amber shellac witch will > probably result in a too light brown/orange result. So I'd like like > to ask if anyone know of a good way to get a darker result to match my > old Ideal saddle. Should I dye

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-05-01 Thread Bill Connell
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:04 PM, fenderbender wrote: > > Can only get white cloth tape and light amber shellac witch will > probably result in a too light brown/orange result. So I'd like like > to ask if anyone know of a good way to get a darker result to match my > old Ideal saddle. Should I dye

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-05-01 Thread fenderbender
Can only get white cloth tape and light amber shellac witch will probably result in a too light brown/orange result. So I'd like like to ask if anyone know of a good way to get a darker result to match my old Ideal saddle. Should I dye the cloth, ad some color to the shellac or just keep putting o

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-05-01 Thread Dave Craig
Bill and Fenderbender, Thanks for those ideas. I will use one of these techniques on the Atlantis when I return from my summer tour. Bill, that's a beautiful tape job and exactly why I might be inclined to use cloth instead of cork for my next tape job. You know what they say about men with bigg

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-05-01 Thread Bill Connell
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Dave Craig wrote: > Shellacked cotton tape is beautiful. One can do fancy harlequin weaves > with it. It wears like iron. Why shouldn't everyone use it? I would > love to. There are two reasons for me. Sometimes I like to ride > without gloves and I have big hands

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-05-01 Thread fenderbender
I've decided to fit cloth over some recycled comfy cork and then shellac it. Shellac on cork tend to look like... a wiener sausage! http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/images3/cc228-5.jpg Shellac - The Myth Revealed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=channel&v=UiPcpnylK-4# http://www.youtube.com/watch

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-05-01 Thread Dave Craig
> To bring this around to the topic at hand, I'm not a fan of shellacked > cork tape. It's hard (for me) to get an even coat without drips, and > it wears quickly with use. I agree that the shellac wears quickly, especially in the places that I grip most often. This has never bothered me since it

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-05-01 Thread Murray Love
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery < thill@gmail.com> wrote: > > To bring this around to the topic at hand, I'm not a fan of shellacked > cork tape. It's hard (for me) to get an even coat without drips, and > it wears quickly with use. > > Well, that's back to the wh

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-05-01 Thread JoelMatthews
> Is that true? Was it a widespread practice among "The French"? Or is > it simply a case where Jan Heine uncovered some obscure French cycling > club whose members tried shellac one time in 1938? Well, I have seen pictures of old Herses and Singers with shellaced cloth tape. I guess it never oc

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-05-01 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
"The French have been shellacing cotton tape for many years." Is that true? Was it a widespread practice among "The French"? Or is it simply a case where Jan Heine uncovered some obscure French cycling club whose members tried shellac one time in 1938? I seem to recall Grant discussing his handle

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-05-01 Thread Dave Craig
George, I've never tried putting shellac on the rubberized tape sold by Sram and others. I've had the type of tape you describe on several bikes in the past - it comes in more colors and styles, so I understand why one might choose it over cork. Given that tape is relatively inexpensive stuff, I

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-05-01 Thread JimD
Ditto on shellacked cloth. I've tried Brooks leather, shellacked cork, and modern plastic. Shellacked cloth comes out as my favorite. Durability is excellent. I had over 7k miles on shellacked blue cloth on my Romulus when I sold it and the tape was still in excellent shape. -JimD On May 1, 200

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-05-01 Thread MKahrl
I recently tried shellaced cloth tape and I'm surprised and delighted by how well it has held up over 3000 miles of riding. For probably fifteen years I had been screwing around with various forms of cork padded tape and they all start to chip up, migrate and loosen after a few months and if the

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-05-01 Thread JoelMatthews
The French have been shellacing cotton tape for many years. You will want to apply the shellac lightly adding multiple coats as desired. Depending on the shellac used, the original color will change somewhat. If you only use one or two coats, the cotton feel is pretty much unchanged. Three or m

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-05-01 Thread GeorgeS
What will happen if one shellacs regular handle bar tape? The non- cork rubber-like stuff sold by SRAM? On Apr 30, 9:32 pm, Dave Craig wrote: > Actually, maintenance-wise, the shellac keeps the cork in good shape > much longer. The edges of the tape don't roll and the cork doesn't get > grimy.

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-04-30 Thread Dave Craig
Actually, maintenance-wise, the shellac keeps the cork in good shape much longer. The edges of the tape don't roll and the cork doesn't get grimy. After a single, two week-long tour, the tan cork on my wife's bike looked like crap. I'm going on the 3rd year with shellac'd cork tape on my Atlantis

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-04-30 Thread Angus
Eric, I recently shellaced the cork grips on my All-Rounder. I think they look much nicer (deep, rich, amber color), they still feel just as cushy. With wool gloves (worn off rubber dots) they are a bit more slippery, with standard leather cycling gloves or bare hands its fine. Angus On Apr 3

[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?

2009-04-30 Thread Murray Love
Neither. The shellac doesn't interfere with cush, nor does it flake off (the first couple of coats actually soak in a bit). With more than (say) three coats, you lose the grippy-cork feeling, getting an ultra-smooth finish instead, which I preferred. Murray Victoria, BC On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at