Re: [RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-31 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Well, most people are going to buy a bike so they can ride with the group of folks that they ride with or associate themselves with. If I were (only) a fast club rider and wanted to use my bike for commuting too, then I can understand the idea of getting a "light" bike. What's not appreciated or g

Re: [RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-31 Thread Anne Paulson
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:55 AM, doc wrote: > "Sooner or later, we're all just old men in funny clothes." T. Bone Wolk > > Whaddaya mean WE, white man? -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-31 Thread doc
"Sooner or later, we're all just old men in funny clothes." T. Bone Wolk On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:31:07 AM UTC-4, Mike wrote: > I was poking around the RBW site last night and noticed there are some new > small items--Unracer pins, key fobs and magnets. I love the product > description wh

[RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-31 Thread Ron Mc
ps - and people who really want to race should be riding racing bikes On Friday, May 31, 2013 7:30:08 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > I liked in the podcast interview, Grant reinforcing the idea of comfort is > what makes you choose to ride. Comfort bike has a connotation all its own, > and most of

[RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-31 Thread Ron Mc
I liked in the podcast interview, Grant reinforcing the idea of comfort is what makes you choose to ride. Comfort bike has a connotation all its own, and most of the connotations are negative to 99% of the riders out there. City bike, touring bike - all these have become defined genres somethi

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2013-05-31 Thread ascpgh
We should all abide. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh > For people getting fussy about the Unracer product descriptions, I look to > The Dude for a response: > > Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man. > > --mike > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the G

[RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-30 Thread Mike
On Thursday, May 30, 2013 1:52:19 PM UTC-7, shawn m. wrote: > > I guess I never considered 'unracer' to be equivalent to 'anti-racer'. Good point. While I'm pro-unracer, I'm not entirely anti-racer. I've only done a few rides in bib-shorts and clipless pedals, but I'm not about to ditch my bibs

Re: [RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-30 Thread Mike Williams
Well put Shawn M. Sent from my iPhone On May 30, 2013, at 1:52 PM, "shawn m." wrote: > I guess I never considered 'unracer' to be equivalent to 'anti-racer'. I've > never been a racer, but I'm a long-time fan of events like the Classics, > BORAF, etc. I find the 'Unracer' label useful as

[RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-30 Thread shawn m.
I guess I never considered 'unracer' to be equivalent to 'anti-racer'. I've never been a racer, but I'm a long-time fan of events like the Classics, BORAF, etc. I find the 'Unracer' label useful as a means of educating those people I know who can't divorce the notion of 'bicycling' from 'sport'.

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2013-05-30 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
As is "...blunderbuss bikes." On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:59:10 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > *the microfiche clipless pedals* > > That's genius :) > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

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2013-05-30 Thread Garth
Yes Mike !Exploring new roads and trails and just enjoying THE moment ... each moment ... for what it is . It doesn't really matter how far or fast you go it's the opening to "all that is" in a given moment. .. and when you "stop and smell the roses" of any given momet dang .

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2013-05-30 Thread Matthew J
Is an identifier necessary? I've never considered myself anything other than a human that does a lot of travelling via bicycle. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails f

[RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-30 Thread Mike Schiller
good point Garth. I raced for quite a few years and still like competitive events . But there is also plenty of time to just go out and have fun and ride. To see something new, explore a new trail or just enjoy the day. I still prefer clipless pedals almost always, and wear lycra or wool short

Re: [RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-30 Thread Robert F. Harrison
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Anne Paulson wrote: > I needed some term to use with my friend, to say, you have your light > racey bike, but this one should be-- unracery. Or whatever. But he, like > most of the riders I know, thinks that lightness is the most important > factor in choosing any

Re: [RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-30 Thread Edwin W
> > He can have his "light racey" bike and his "fun" bike. > As for all of this "un-racer" stuff, I think you have to have been a "racer" to get it. I gave "Just Ride" to a bunch of my family members, all long time "just riders" and they were puzzled by all the time spent on racer culture, as

Re: [RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Sports-tourer? Country bike? I'd offer utility bike, too, but "utility" seems to indicate "not fun". How about useful bike? Thinking more about it, I suggest that "bicycle" be used like "car". No one thinks that "car" refers solely to a racing car. On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Anne Paulson

Re: [RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-30 Thread Anne Paulson
Grant writes: "I think by virtue of sheer number inferiority, that riding "unracerly" whether or not you like the label, needs a label to be a thing, and without the label or being a thing, it will get etch-a-sketch out of sight and mind continually by the dominance of the other stuff." I agree ab

[RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-30 Thread Garth
Declaring and trying to BE an "unracer" is no different than declaring and trying to BE "racer" . Just BE your self celebrate your uniqueness for there is no other like the You of whoever reads these words. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group

[RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-30 Thread grant
I don't put a lot of thought into stuff like the badges and pins, the minor things. They kind of are what they are, but they need some words just as a matter of consistency, so I try to have some quick fun while not telling any lies. The "evil, vile, live" comment that may have come off as mean

[RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-30 Thread Joe Bernard
I can personally attest to the benefits of loudly promoting "unracer" to new cyclists. I met a young man on Twitter who asked me questions about "upgrading" an old Schwinn he had just purchased for commuting. I directed him to some parts Riv sells, and he started reading. The first thing he men

[RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-30 Thread jeffrey kane
Agreed: "I think looking silly is part of the human condition. :-)" "Let's not take ourselves too seriously." Nothing says it better than "Just Ride" On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:31:07 AM UTC-4, Mike wrote: > > I was poking around the RBW site last night and noticed there are some new > smal

[RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-30 Thread Mike
On Thursday, May 30, 2013 6:40:30 AM UTC-7, jeffrey kane wrote: tooling around an a $4000.00 artisanal "hobo" bike with a $25.00 basket ... that sort of thing makes everybody come off looking silly. That's been an point of contention (or celebration depending on your views) with the RBW ethos f

Re: [RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-30 Thread cyclotourist
I think looking silly is part of the human condition. :-) Cheers, David On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:40 AM, jeffrey kane wrote: > Fussy? I don't know ...it is funny though ... but I also wonder why Riv/GP > feels the need to contribute to an already polarized community (cyclers in > general) ...

[RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-30 Thread jeffrey kane
Fussy? I don't know ...it is funny though ... but I also wonder why Riv/GP feels the need to contribute to an already polarized community (cyclers in general) ... while the button is innocuous enough in itself, all the anti-this and anti-that stuff seems unnecessary. I can't help but think whet

[RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-29 Thread hsmitham
Mike, Just had this sewn on my front handle bar bag. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/8800163241/in/set-72157633651797978 Me likey. ~Hugh On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:31:07 AM UTC-7, Mike wrote: > > I was poking around the RBW site last night and noticed there are some new > small i

[RBW] Re: UnRacer Paraphernalia description.

2013-05-29 Thread Joe Bernard
*the microfiche clipless pedals* That's genius :) On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:31:07 AM UTC-7, Mike wrote: > I was poking around the RBW site last night and noticed there are some new > small items--Unracer pins, key fobs and magnets. I love the product > description which isn't so much a pro