[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-07 Thread 'Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch
The Romanceur is a cool bike, and certainly has some Rivendell inspiration, but its front end geometry is quite different from the Atlantis. They are both meant for touring, and can take fat tires, but the Romanceur has much lower trail than the Atlantis. It is intended to favor front loading.

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-05 Thread Jeremy Till
I actually bought my Clem frame specifically because it could fit 29" tires and came with v-brake mounts, as I wanted to build up a v-brake 29er, and there are extremely few frames currently available that allow you to do so. At the time the other option was the Surly Ogre, which now is less

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-05 Thread Paul Choi
The Romanceur is very similar to an Atlantis with discs. It is a good deal at $1275. 26 x 2.3 or 650b x 48 with fenders. On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 10:21:35 AM UTC-8, Jonny P wrote: > > I mean, it may just be me, but I feel like the Crust Romanceur with a 26" > wheelset is a great

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-05 Thread Jonny P
I mean, it may just be me, but I feel like the Crust Romanceur with a 26" wheelset is a great alternative for those of you wanting a Disc Hunqapillar-ish bike at a Taiwan price. I am still lusting after a true Hunqapillar, but my Romanceur with Velocity Duallys and RTP tires is pretty darned

Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-05 Thread William Henderson
Ah, the mythical Hunqamullet: performance in the front, classic in the back. On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 10:57 PM DarinM wrote: > Those of you who want a disc-Riv, how would you feel about Rivendell > offering just a disc fork option for a few of the exiting bikes? The front >

Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-05 Thread Steven Sweedler
I rode the Great Divide with older Shimano cantis and never felt ill equipped. The last piece I read here from Grant I thought covered his feelings pretty well. Keep it simple. Steve On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 7:59 AM Jeffrey Arita wrote: > Joe, > > A bit of background for

Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-04 Thread Joe Bernard
Bill, have you ever known Grant to design or sell a bike thing he's not interested in? Of course I don't expect him to do a disc Riv, it's just a request with the thinking that maybe youngsters at RBW could spearhead it. It'd be cool if it happened, but I'll keep buying frames and parts from

Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-04 Thread Patrick Moore
I won't quarrel with Rivendell if it never makes a disc brake bike, but as to disc brake technology itself -- and I speak as a bitter, aging disparager of so much of modernity* -- I have to agree with Jeffrey. Disc brakes do work well, and solve a number of problems that other types of brakes

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-04 Thread Jeffrey Arita
Joe, A bit of background for you here: Been cycling seriously since 1987. Ever since disc brakes came out I thought they were just another way for the cycling marketers to sell more stuffI did not buy into this 'new tech.' I continued to ride a v-brake equipped bike. We live here in

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-04 Thread DarinM
Those of you who want a disc-Riv, how would you feel about Rivendell offering just a disc fork option for a few of the exiting bikes? The front brake does most of our braking anyways, the rear is arguably only there for emergency use, except for maybe on dedicated MTB's which Riv doesn't really

Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-04 Thread Bill Schairer
I’m married to an artist and there are pieces she has been asked to make that she just doesn’t want to make. The love is not there. I happen to think of bicycles as pieces of art. If the love is not there for the artist, I’m not sure the end product would meet the artist’s own standards and

Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-04 Thread William Henderson
Cost was $450 for a custom fork (matches original except disc tab and stoutness) and ~200 to add a tab to the frame. ISO mounts. I already needed a paint job and a new fork, so it was a no brainer for me. On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 6:50 PM EasyRider wrote: > Kinda surprising

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-04 Thread EasyRider
Kinda surprising that more people haven't done as William, and had disc mounts added their Atlantis, Hunq, Sam, etc., What would it cost, a few hundred? Plus repaint? Or maybe get Waterford to make a disc fork? I'd guess that'd be 400-500. Anyway, a lot less than buying a new disc Riv, were one

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-04 Thread RJM
Even though I would choose a disc Hunq if they offered it, I do agree with what you wrote, Mark. Rivs stop pretty well already and they just don't really need to add a disc brake unless it's warranted, like with the tandem. On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 4:48:02 PM UTC-6, Mark in Beacon wrote:

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-04 Thread Joe Bernard
I don't think it's weird to want discs on a Riv. I like the Riv aesthetic and ride, and it's completely unique to that company. I can go somewhere else to get the brakes I want, but I can't get somewhere else to duplicate a Rivendell frame for them. So I'm answering the question "what other Riv

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-04 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I am going to rest my case {sustained applause} but I do want to clarify, the main tenet of my position has little to do with the efficacy of the technology or the ease of setup, at least not in the conventional sense. I had disc brakes on several cargo bikes and, briefly, a folder that came

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-04 Thread Joe Bernard
The mechanical discs on my Bike Friday are definitely easier to set up than the Paul Racers on my Pashley. I think there will be a disc-braked Riv eventually, but Grant and I will probably be riding disc-braked electric trikes by the time it happens ;-) -- You received this message because

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-04 Thread Bob K.
IME, mechanical disc brakes work really well. Hydros work really, really well. I agree with you, Mark, that we humans tend to embrace new technology rather quickly, often without considering consequences. However, mechanical disc brakes on a bike are—at this point—tried and true. I’m a

Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-04 Thread Addison Wilhite
I adore and prize my Allrounder. It's the last and only Riv I own. The only time I lust for another Riv is the occasional Legolas pang. If a Hunqapillar 650b disc came out it would shoot to the top of my bike desire list. Easily. Rocky descents here in Nevada make it difficult to enjoy

Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-04 Thread Joe Bernard
"..and that they seem to go hand in hand with the adoption of new standards that make the use of those parts that are so characteristic of Rivendell builds out of the question." How do discs "seem" to do this on a bicycle I've repeatedly described as using all normal Riv parts aside from the

Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-04 Thread William Henderson
Switching my Atlantis to disc brakes represents somewhat of a controlled experiment, and I can tell you that if anything changed about the “ride quality” it is undetectable. Perhaps on a road bike with skinny tires it would be different. On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 7:05 AM 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-04 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Again, sure, why not? But that doesn't mean someone else can't look at bicycle braking technologies and decide, with equal validity, why? It may not be a popular decision, it may be seen as "impeding progress" or simply as stubborn. But it doesn't make it wrong. This decision by itself may or

Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/04/2018 02:57 AM, rw1911 wrote: I wrote a big, long response sharing my personal experiences with moving to new tech related to bikes and cars, but in the end, I came to the same place... Why not?  Disc brakes are good.  Maybe they they don't have the character or aesthetics of our

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-04 Thread Steve Butcher
I was thinking the very same thing, recently, Chris. My "grail" bike has been a Hunqapillar; but I simply find obtaining one cost prohibitive. Steve "el cheapo" Butcher On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:34:28 PM UTC-6, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: > > I don't really have an interest in disc brakes

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread rw1911
I wrote a big, long response sharing my personal experiences with moving to new tech related to bikes and cars, but in the end, I came to the same place... Why not? Disc brakes are good. Maybe they they don't have the character or aesthetics of our beloved rim brakes, but they are good, even

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I don't really have an interest in disc brakes but a tig welded Hunqapillar clone in the clem frameset price range would make me a happy man. On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 2:30:33 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Now that I've conjured up my future-Riv on the "what type of bike" thread >

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread EasyRider
If Riv did a Scapegoat-ish plus bike, that'd be a disc bike, wouldn't it? I think so, for practical reasons and intended use. The Hubbuh tandem has a disc mount for a drag brake, so it's not like Riv is morally opposed to the technology. FWIW, I get one finger braking with good modulation

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread iamkeith
On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 5:19:36 PM UTC-7, Dave Grossman wrote: > > ... The fact that they spec bikes with parts that could have been found 30 > years ago is what makes them endearing. > > ^ This is true. However, because I'm the kind of guy who will only buy a bike that I

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread Joe Bernard
I'm not proposing a hydro Riv, that's a swap I would make myself at home. A Hunqadiscer would come with the same levers, cranks and derailers as any other trail-ready Riv, it would just have mechanical discs instead of rim brakes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread Dave Grossman
I don't feel Riv would be Riv with discs. Are they going to spec XT hydros with an Altus mech? Are you going to build a full 1x11 XT Hunqa? That just doesn't seem Riv to me. The fact that they spec bikes with parts that could have been found 30 years ago is what makes them endearing. They

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread William!
That's how I spec'd my Atlantis when I converted it to discs. Feels very Rivendellian in terms of maintenance, setup and fussy-ness. I think it looks Rivendellian too – in so far as most folks don't even notice. William On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 3:45:53 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > >

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread RJM
This is an addition to my previous reply in this thread. I've ridden the same local mtb trails on my cyclocross bike (carbon Kona Jake the Snake), my Santa Cruz Hightower, and my Niner Sir9 and they all offer a different experience...I would think a Rivendell Hunqadiscer would offer a

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread iamkeith
(Please excuse my sloppy typing and syntax in the above posts. Too much of a hurry today, and wish there was an edit feature...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread iamkeith
Grant made comment in the last year or so, that the idea of a "plus" sized, hunqapillar-ish bike came up several times a year among Riv staff members. Thought maybe your inquiry was dovetailing with other, ongoing concept ideas... On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 2:20:03 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread Joe Bernard
No no no, to be clear, the email to Roman was all my idea. We were chatting about my Cheviot that he just posted on the Blug, then I replied with my hare-brained Hunqadiscer scheme. Rivendell hasn't commented on this in any way, shape or form. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread iamkeith
Wait - are you saying Roman indicated that this could become a possibility? I've avoided the temptation of posting to your other thread, because I have way too many dream bikes / fantasies / wishes. However in regards to this particular model idea, I'll give an emphatic "yes," but with the

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

2018-02-03 Thread RJM
If they offered it I would choose it and use hydraulics. I've used mechanical and hydros on mountain bikes and vastly prefer hydros and the one finger braking they offer. They allow you to brake later with more control, IMHO. But, V brakes aren't all that bad either. A bit grabbier than