The Romanceur is a cool bike, and certainly has some Rivendell inspiration, but
its front end geometry is quite different from the Atlantis. They are both
meant for touring, and can take fat tires, but the Romanceur has much lower
trail than the Atlantis. It is intended to favor front loading.
I actually bought my Clem frame specifically because it could fit 29" tires
and came with v-brake mounts, as I wanted to build up a v-brake 29er, and
there are extremely few frames currently available that allow you to do
so. At the time the other option was the Surly Ogre, which now is less
The Romanceur is very similar to an Atlantis with discs. It is a good deal
at $1275.
26 x 2.3 or 650b x 48 with fenders.
On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 10:21:35 AM UTC-8, Jonny P wrote:
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> I mean, it may just be me, but I feel like the Crust Romanceur with a 26"
> wheelset is a great
I mean, it may just be me, but I feel like the Crust Romanceur with a 26"
wheelset is a great alternative for those of you wanting a Disc
Hunqapillar-ish bike at a Taiwan price.
I am still lusting after a true Hunqapillar, but my Romanceur with Velocity
Duallys and RTP tires is pretty darned
Ah, the mythical Hunqamullet: performance in the front, classic in the back.
On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 10:57 PM DarinM wrote:
> Those of you who want a disc-Riv, how would you feel about Rivendell
> offering just a disc fork option for a few of the exiting bikes? The front
>
I rode the Great Divide with older Shimano cantis and never felt ill
equipped. The last piece I read here from Grant I thought covered his
feelings pretty well. Keep it simple. Steve
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 7:59 AM Jeffrey Arita wrote:
> Joe,
>
> A bit of background for
Bill, have you ever known Grant to design or sell a bike thing he's not
interested in? Of course I don't expect him to do a disc Riv, it's just a
request with the thinking that maybe youngsters at RBW could spearhead it. It'd
be cool if it happened, but I'll keep buying frames and parts from
I won't quarrel with Rivendell if it never makes a disc brake bike, but as
to disc brake technology itself -- and I speak as a bitter, aging
disparager of so much of modernity* -- I have to agree with Jeffrey. Disc
brakes do work well, and solve a number of problems that other types of
brakes
Joe,
A bit of background for you here: Been cycling seriously since 1987. Ever
since disc brakes came out I thought they were just another way for the
cycling marketers to sell more stuffI did not buy into this 'new
tech.' I continued to ride a v-brake equipped bike. We live here in
Those of you who want a disc-Riv, how would you feel about Rivendell
offering just a disc fork option for a few of the exiting bikes? The front
brake does most of our braking anyways, the rear is arguably only there for
emergency use, except for maybe on dedicated MTB's which Riv doesn't really
I’m married to an artist and there are pieces she has been asked to make that
she just doesn’t want to make. The love is not there. I happen to think of
bicycles as pieces of art. If the love is not there for the artist, I’m not
sure the end product would meet the artist’s own standards and
Cost was $450 for a custom fork (matches original except disc tab and
stoutness) and ~200 to add a tab to the frame. ISO mounts.
I already needed a paint job and a new fork, so it was a no brainer for me.
On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 6:50 PM EasyRider wrote:
> Kinda surprising
Kinda surprising that more people haven't done as William, and had disc mounts
added their Atlantis, Hunq, Sam, etc., What would it cost, a few hundred? Plus
repaint? Or maybe get Waterford to make a disc fork? I'd guess that'd be
400-500. Anyway, a lot less than buying a new disc Riv, were one
Even though I would choose a disc Hunq if they offered it, I do agree with
what you wrote, Mark. Rivs stop pretty well already and they just don't
really need to add a disc brake unless it's warranted, like with the tandem.
On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 4:48:02 PM UTC-6, Mark in Beacon wrote:
I don't think it's weird to want discs on a Riv. I like the Riv aesthetic and
ride, and it's completely unique to that company. I can go somewhere else to
get the brakes I want, but I can't get somewhere else to duplicate a Rivendell
frame for them. So I'm answering the question "what other Riv
I am going to rest my case {sustained applause} but I do want to clarify,
the main tenet of my position has little to do with the efficacy of the
technology or the ease of setup, at least not in the conventional sense. I
had disc brakes on several cargo bikes and, briefly, a folder that came
The mechanical discs on my Bike Friday are definitely easier to set up than the
Paul Racers on my Pashley.
I think there will be a disc-braked Riv eventually, but Grant and I will
probably be riding disc-braked electric trikes by the time it happens ;-)
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IME, mechanical disc brakes work really well. Hydros work really, really well.
I agree with you, Mark, that we humans tend to embrace new technology rather
quickly, often without considering consequences. However, mechanical disc
brakes on a bike are—at this point—tried and true. I’m a
I adore and prize my Allrounder. It's the last and only Riv I own. The
only time I lust for another Riv is the occasional Legolas pang. If a
Hunqapillar 650b disc came out it would shoot to the top of my bike desire
list. Easily. Rocky descents here in Nevada make it difficult to enjoy
"..and that they seem to go hand in
hand with the adoption of new standards that make the use of those parts
that are so characteristic of Rivendell builds out of the question."
How do discs "seem" to do this on a bicycle I've repeatedly described as using
all normal Riv parts aside from the
Switching my Atlantis to disc brakes represents somewhat of a controlled
experiment, and I can tell you that if anything changed about the “ride
quality” it is undetectable. Perhaps on a road bike with skinny tires it
would be different.
On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 7:05 AM 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW
Again, sure, why not? But that doesn't mean someone else can't look at
bicycle braking technologies and decide, with equal validity, why? It may
not be a popular decision, it may be seen as "impeding progress" or simply
as stubborn. But it doesn't make it wrong. This decision by itself may or
On 02/04/2018 02:57 AM, rw1911 wrote:
I wrote a big, long response sharing my personal experiences with
moving to new tech related to bikes and cars, but in the end, I came
to the same place...
Why not? Disc brakes are good. Maybe they they don't have the
character or aesthetics of our
I was thinking the very same thing, recently, Chris. My "grail" bike has
been a Hunqapillar; but I simply find obtaining one cost prohibitive.
Steve "el cheapo" Butcher
On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:34:28 PM UTC-6, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
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> I don't really have an interest in disc brakes
I wrote a big, long response sharing my personal experiences with moving to
new tech related to bikes and cars, but in the end, I came to the same
place...
Why not? Disc brakes are good. Maybe they they don't have the character
or aesthetics of our beloved rim brakes, but they are good, even
I don't really have an interest in disc brakes but a tig welded Hunqapillar
clone in the clem frameset price range would make me a happy man.
On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 2:30:33 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> Now that I've conjured up my future-Riv on the "what type of bike" thread
>
If Riv did a Scapegoat-ish plus bike, that'd be a disc bike, wouldn't it? I
think so, for practical reasons and intended use. The Hubbuh tandem has a disc
mount for a drag brake, so it's not like Riv is morally opposed to the
technology.
FWIW, I get one finger braking with good modulation
On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 5:19:36 PM UTC-7, Dave Grossman wrote:
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> ... The fact that they spec bikes with parts that could have been found 30
> years ago is what makes them endearing.
>
>
^ This is true. However, because I'm the kind of guy who will only buy a
bike that I
I'm not proposing a hydro Riv, that's a swap I would make myself at home. A
Hunqadiscer would come with the same levers, cranks and derailers as any other
trail-ready Riv, it would just have mechanical discs instead of rim brakes.
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I don't feel Riv would be Riv with discs. Are they going to spec XT hydros
with an Altus mech? Are you going to build a full 1x11 XT Hunqa? That
just doesn't seem Riv to me. The fact that they spec bikes with parts
that could have been found 30 years ago is what makes them endearing. They
That's how I spec'd my Atlantis when I converted it to discs. Feels very
Rivendellian in terms of maintenance, setup and fussy-ness. I think it
looks Rivendellian too – in so far as most folks don't even notice.
William
On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 3:45:53 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
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This is an addition to my previous reply in this thread.
I've ridden the same local mtb trails on my cyclocross bike (carbon Kona
Jake the Snake), my Santa Cruz Hightower, and my Niner Sir9 and they all
offer a different experience...I would think a Rivendell Hunqadiscer would
offer a
(Please excuse my sloppy typing and syntax in the above posts. Too much of
a hurry today, and wish there was an edit feature...)
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Grant made comment in the last year or so, that the idea of a "plus" sized,
hunqapillar-ish bike came up several times a year among Riv staff members.
Thought maybe your inquiry was dovetailing with other, ongoing concept
ideas...
On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 2:20:03 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard
No no no, to be clear, the email to Roman was all my idea. We were chatting
about my Cheviot that he just posted on the Blug, then I replied with my
hare-brained Hunqadiscer scheme. Rivendell hasn't commented on this in any way,
shape or form.
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Wait - are you saying Roman indicated that this could become a
possibility? I've avoided the temptation of posting to your other thread,
because I have way too many dream bikes / fantasies / wishes. However in
regards to this particular model idea, I'll give an emphatic "yes," but
with the
If they offered it I would choose it and use hydraulics. I've used
mechanical and hydros on mountain bikes and vastly prefer hydros and the
one finger braking they offer. They allow you to brake later with more
control, IMHO.
But, V brakes aren't all that bad either. A bit grabbier than
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