Re: [RDA-L] No date of publication, first printing

2013-06-18 Thread Trina Pundurs
"Me too" to Brian, with the slight variation that I would be even less likely than him to give 264 _4 in either case. Trina Pundurs Serials Cataloger Library Collection Services University of California, Berkeley tpund...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/ Proudly wearing the sensi

Re: [RDA-L] Please unsubscribe me.

2013-06-18 Thread Marla
Good luck with that one, I went to the website recommended and still get it. It will be okay as I am looking for work and one of the jobs I need to know RDA better. From: Janis Ford To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 1:12 PM Subject

Re: [RDA-L] 264 dates

2013-06-18 Thread Robert Maxwell
Mac, you have brought this issue up often enough, but what do you do about other parts of the record that are geared toward a particular language community? Notes in 5XX fields are going to be in English in English-language records, for example, and for good reason. We use English terms in the e

Re: [RDA-L] 264 dates

2013-06-18 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Mark posted: >They have the option of using the phrasing found in translated versions of >RDA. For instance, in French, there's "[entre 1846 et 1853?]." Which would mean a duplicate record for each language of the catalogue we support. The idea of IFLA's UBC (Universal Bibliographic Control) wa

Re: [RDA-L] No date of publication, first printing

2013-06-18 Thread Bryan Baldus
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:32 AM, Deborah Fritz wrote: >I would very much like to get some broad feedback from as many of you as >possible, on how you would handle the dates for following two resources: >Example 1 >Copyright (c) 2013 >First printing, August 2012 I would do 264 _1 ...$c[2013] (B

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2013-06-18 Thread Stephen Early
While a standard footer including subscribing/unsubscribing information might be preferable -- this is what OCLC-CAT does -- I did find the information requested via a quick Google search of "rda list." The following is from http://www.rda-jsc.org/rdadiscuss.html RDA-L is an electronic forum f

Re: [RDA-L] No date of publication, first printing

2013-06-18 Thread Robert Maxwell
For Example 1 I would supply 2013 as the publication date. Books are always printed before they are published. Presumably these were printed and delivered to the publisher in late 2012. Then they were "published", i.e., issued to the public. That could easily have happened the following year. To

[RDA-L] Versions of other scriptures than the Bible

2013-06-18 Thread Gene Fieg
AACR2 25.18 deals with versions of the Bible and one thing that was allowed was to use the translator as a name for the version. In RDA, has that idea been broadened to include non-biblical religious texts of other religions. For instance could we have Quran. English. Abdel Haleem ? -- Gene Fie

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2013-06-18 Thread Janis Ford
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[RDA-L] 130s, conflicts, etc.

2013-06-18 Thread Bryan Baldus
While cataloging new titles in the Opposing viewpoints series, I came across LCCN 2012044960. This has a 130 Genetic engineering (Merino), which makes sense due to the new way we are dealing with conflicts in RDA (LC-PCC PS for 6.27.1.9). On the other hand, other titles within the series, such a

Re: [RDA-L] 264 dates

2013-06-18 Thread M. E.
J. McRee Elrod wrote: > John F, Myers posted: > > >EXAMPLE > > [between 1846 and 1853?] > > [between 1800 and 1899?] > > [between 1970 and 1979?] > > [between 1400 and 1600?] > > These Anglo centrc phrases will not fly for non English languge materials > in non English lan

Re: [RDA-L] No date of publication, first printing

2013-06-18 Thread M. E.
Jack Wu wrote: > You did say broad feedback, right? For 1st example I would use 2012 > At the risk of "me too-ing"... Ditto Jack's response. I'd also add the copyright date since it's different from the publication date. > , for 2nd example I would use 2008 if a record just for the paperbac

Re: [RDA-L] No date of publication, first printing

2013-06-18 Thread Guy Vernon Frost
I 2nd Jack's take on it. That's exactly how I would do it. Guy Frost Associate Professor of Library Science Catalog Librarian Odum Library/Valdosta State University Valdosta, Georgia 31698-0150 229.259.5060 gfr...@valdosta.edu FDLP 0125 From: Resource Description a

Re: [RDA-L] No date of publication, first printing

2013-06-18 Thread Jack Wu
You did say broad feedback, right? For 1st example I would use 2012, for 2nd example I would use 2008 if a record just for the paperback is made. In choosing the 1st printing dates in both instances, I have assumed the announced printing dates to be equivalent to dates of publication. The copyri

[RDA-L] No date of publication, first printing

2013-06-18 Thread Deborah Fritz
Dear RDA-L Folks, I would very much like to get some broad feedback from as many of you as possible, on how you would handle the dates for following two resources: Example 1 Verso of book reads: Copyright C 2013 First printing, August 2012 ISBN 9780321832740 Which date would you