Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

2013-01-11 Thread Deborah Fritz
ality.com> www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Joan Wang Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 4:16 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields It is not in

Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

2013-01-11 Thread Harden, Jean
ccess [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Monica Boyer Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 3:00 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields A slight tangent from the conversation: In the interest of trying to learn about the 264 in RDA,

Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

2013-01-11 Thread Joan Wang
It is not in RDA Toolkit. But it is covered in PCC guideline. I remember that OCLC Technical Bulletin also mentioned it. www.loc.gov/aba/*pcc*/documents/*264*-*Guidelines*.doc Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Monica Boyer wrote: > A slight tangent fr

Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

2013-01-11 Thread John Hostage
d Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Deborah Fritz Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 12:55 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields RDA 2.11<http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp2&target=rda2-7597#rda2-7597&

Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

2013-01-11 Thread Monica Boyer
A slight tangent from the conversation: In the interest of trying to learn about the 264 in RDA, I looked at the MARC Bibliographic to RDA Mapping in the RDA Toolkit, & the 264 isn't there. Likewise, & perhaps more surprisingly, the 264 also isn't in the RDA to MARC Bibliographic Mapping. Please

Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

2013-01-11 Thread Adam L. Schiff
Transcription of copyright date is a core element (Mandatory) if neither the date of publication nor the date of distribution is identified. This is why the LC-PCC Policy Statement tells catalogers to supply a probable publication date as much as possible, rather than recording "date of public

Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

2013-01-11 Thread Pat Sayre McCoy
1:48 PM To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca Subject: Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields I’d say you never in fact need to use the “nuclear option” “date of publication not identified” because you at least know that by the time a published resource hits your desk it has been published

Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

2013-01-11 Thread Robert Maxwell
and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Arakawa, Steven Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:49 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields During the test period, LC defined the copyright date as core, but the copyright date was “de-co

Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

2013-01-11 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Ian Fairclough asked: If the date of publication that you put in a 264 field with second >indicator 1 is taken from a printed copyright date, as often is found >on the title page verso, do you put that date in brackets? Yes, but without the "c", and in our case, no questions mark. We will only

Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

2013-01-11 Thread Deborah Fritz
-Original Message- From: mco...@library.wisc.edu [mailto:mco...@library.wisc.edu] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:28 AM To: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access Cc: Deborah Fritz Subject: Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields If you use the co

Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

2013-01-11 Thread Deborah Fritz
A-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Jack Wu Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:10 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields Thanks for the quotes from LC-PCC PS for 1.7.1 whether to place a period at the end in a 264 field: [DF:]

Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

2013-01-11 Thread Jack Wu
I do not know if LC PCC PS is interpreted correctly. However, RDA 2.8.6.6 says "If the date of publication is not identified in a resource... record the copyright date, and RDA 2.11 says "copyright date is a core element if...neither the date of publication ... is identified. I tend to think in

Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

2013-01-11 Thread Michael Cohen
If you use the copyright date to supply the date in 264_1, and adding the copyright date is optional, are there any circumstances under which transcription of the copyright date is mandatory? On 1/11/2013 9:49 AM, Deborah Fritz wrote: *From:*Resource Description and Access / Resource Descripti

Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

2013-01-11 Thread Jack Wu
Thanks for the quotes from LC-PCC PS for 1.7.1 whether to place a period at the end in a 264 field: [DF:] LC-PCC PS for 1.7.1 ( http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=lcpschp1&target=lcps1-471#lcps1-471 ) says “Field 264 usually ends with a period, a closing parenthesis, a closing bracket

Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

2013-01-11 Thread Deborah Fritz
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Arakawa, Steven Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:39 AM [SA] [DF:] Yes, if you use the copyright date to supply the date in 264_1, then adding the copyright date is optio

Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

2013-01-11 Thread Arakawa, Steven
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Deborah Fritz Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 9:15 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields From: Resource Description and

Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

2013-01-11 Thread Deborah Fritz
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Ian Fairclough Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 9:05 AM If the date of publication that you put in a 264 field with second indicator 1 is taken from a printed copyright date,

[RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

2013-01-11 Thread Ian Fairclough
Dear RDA-L readers, If the date of publication that you put in a 264 field with second indicator 1 is taken from a printed copyright date, as often is found on the title page verso, do you put that date in brackets? Also, do you put a period at the end of that field? And, do you put a period