Re: [RE-wrenches] the history of three Mate's

2020-04-28 Thread Kirk Herander
YEP, you need a hub 10.3 to work properly with a Mate 3S. And the hub 10 jumpers may need to be reconfigered from the factory positions. On 4/28/2020 12:09:13 PM, Mac Lewis wrote: What version Hub? On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 9:55 AM Jerry Shafer mailto:jerrysgarag...@gmail.com]> wrote: You may have

[RE-wrenches] Rapid Shutdown Compliance

2020-04-28 Thread Corey Shalanski
Now that 690.12 of the *NEC* 2017 has been in effect for several years, I am curious how designers and installers are meeting the associated requirements with string inverter-based systems (*not* considering microinverters or DC optimizers). I am generally a fan of the KISS principle, and as best

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback EQ not holding voltage

2020-04-28 Thread jay
Hi Dave, Only thing I would check is to see if lowering the eq by 1 volt changes anything. IE the batteries are just struggling to keep up. But the CC should tell you what mode it’s in right? IE is it regulating or is it full power. Either in the menus or just looking at VMP/watts If it’s

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback EQ not holding voltage

2020-04-28 Thread Lones Tuss
Hi All On OutBack inverters the EQ process is not temp comped. The eq timer will not count down until the voltage set point is achieved. You comment on the issue being somewhat intermittent is interesting. Could there be a loose cable, bad crimp or corroded connection somewhere in the system?

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback EQ not holding voltage

2020-04-28 Thread Howie Michaelson
I would tend to agree with Ray's analysis, with one question: - Does the Eq timer reset to 0 when the voltage dips? It should basically hold the time the batteries were at Eq voltage when it drops below, sort of putting the EQ timer on hold until the voltage comes back up. So

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback EQ not holding voltage

2020-04-28 Thread Ray
I would add to the chorus that it probably is a battery issue. Here are the symptoms that lead to that conclusion: A) it started occurring recently, B) it is somewhat intermittent, C) the system has aging L 16s  (failures at 4 to 5 years are pretty  common) D) they are the Trojan RE series 

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback EQ not holding voltage

2020-04-28 Thread Dave Tedeyan
Steve and Jerry, Thanks for the suggestions. I'll have to take a closer look at the battery bank next time I am out there. The solar setup is 4 strings of 3 kyocera 270's into each charge controller. So that is almost 65A @50V coming out of each charge controller for bulk. The parallel battery

Re: [RE-wrenches] the history of three Mate's

2020-04-28 Thread Mac Lewis
What version Hub? On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 9:55 AM Jerry Shafer wrote: > You may have a stacking error, l would verify that first > Jerry > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 8:11 AM Chris Schaefer > wrote: > >> G'Day All, >> >> Recently ran into an issue on a system installed by others. It's an >> Outback

Re: [RE-wrenches] the history of three Mate's

2020-04-28 Thread Jerry Shafer
You may have a stacking error, l would verify that first Jerry On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 8:11 AM Chris Schaefer wrote: > G'Day All, > > Recently ran into an issue on a system installed by others. It's an > Outback FW1000 circa 2015 with a twin stack of VFX3648's. The system is > offgrid and charged

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback EQ not holding voltage

2020-04-28 Thread Steve Higgins
I know the old FX's didn't temp compensate in EQ mode but the charge controllers do... I know... that is what I said when I learned this years ago! I don't think the Radians observe temp compensation while in EQ either... That would be a better question for Lones Tuss... You out there Lones?

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback EQ not holding voltage

2020-04-28 Thread Jerry Shafer
Sounds like a battery issue at first glance, as you EQ a battery it gets warm or even hot and this will effect ability to charge. If e en one of the L-16 is not exactly the same voltage you will not get to EQ untill another battery over voltages to show your overall volts. Need to look at each

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback EQ not holding voltage

2020-04-28 Thread Dave Tedeyan
Brian, I had tried lowering the EQ voltage by 0.4V. The batteries still get up to the EQ voltage, but then fluctuate right at or 0.1V below. Dave, The EQ countdown timer does not count down when the battery voltage is below the EQ setpoint (even if by 0.1V). And since the timer never gets to 0,

[RE-wrenches] the history of three Mate's

2020-04-28 Thread Chris Schaefer
G'Day All, Recently ran into an issue on a system installed by others. It's an Outback FW1000 circa 2015 with a twin stack of VFX3648's. The system is offgrid and charged solely by a 15kw propane fired generator with plenty of hours on it. I'll be adding PV to it in the coming weeks. The system

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback EQ not holding voltage

2020-04-28 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
Does not sound right to me. Usually both Outback and Schneider protect against uncontrolled EQ time and end EQ. I think I would remove the network after the battery is full and test one controller at a time. Might have been damaged by lightning or gen glitching. Since you say it does this from

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback EQ not holding voltage

2020-04-28 Thread Brian Mehalic
Sorry you had already answered the first two questions :) What about the others? Brian > On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:50 AM, Dave Tedeyan wrote: > >  > Hi All, > > I've got an outback system (Radian 8048A, 2 FM80, 16 Trojan L16RE-B) where > when the customer equalizes, the batteries hover right

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback EQ not holding voltage

2020-04-28 Thread Brian Mehalic
What’s the capacity of the battery bank? And the size of the charging sources? What’s your EQ voltage? Have you tried a lower EQ voltage setting to see if it does the same thing? Brian > On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:50 AM, Dave Tedeyan wrote: > >  > Hi All, > > I've got an outback system (Radian

[RE-wrenches] Outback EQ not holding voltage

2020-04-28 Thread Dave Tedeyan
Hi All, I've got an outback system (Radian 8048A, 2 FM80, 16 Trojan L16RE-B) where when the customer equalizes, the batteries hover right around the EQ voltage, but will often dip to 0.1v less. Because of this, the EQ timer does not count down properly, and so left to its own devices the system