Re: [RE-wrenches] Mitsubishi Mini Split fighting with Outback VFX Off Grid

2014-10-22 Thread Exeltech
> We used to use capacitors, but Dan from Exeltech just poo pooed that fix > in another recent thread, so I don't have any other tricks up my sleeve. No poo. Just a cautionary comment. Capacitors connected across the output of an inverter can .. in some circumstances .. cause

Re: [RE-wrenches] Diode Failure

2014-10-21 Thread Exeltech
"A diode is a diode." ??? Not so. That's like saying a solar panel is a solar panel .. or a tire is a tire. If you can get the identical part # .. then replace it. Don't go out and just use any diode. The diodes in PV are commonly a Schottky barrier diode .. designed to minimize voltage

Re: [RE-wrenches] Quantifying power quality, 50 mf capacitor

2014-10-13 Thread Exeltech
r had a problem, and some of these have been running that > way for over 15 years. > > I never had a power quality issue with an Exeltech, so I've never used this > trick with your inverters. > > R.Ray Walters > CTO, Solarray, Inc > Nabcep Certified PV Installer, > Lice

Re: [RE-wrenches] Quantifying power quality

2014-10-12 Thread Exeltech
Wrenches, Be careful about connecting *any* capacitors across an inverter's AC output. It's not a smart thing to do. While a capacitor may help in some cases when a load has a substantially poor power factor due to significant inductance, there are two serious concerns here: 1. The power fac

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cooler Modules

2014-09-11 Thread Exeltech
Wrenches, Bill Hoffer's comments below are correct relative to "hot spots". Mac's comments are also correct relative to overall PV module temperature under open-circuit versus "loaded" conditions. To Bill's point, if one or more cells are fractured, or buss solder bonds or other connections a

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV panel backing

2014-08-31 Thread Exeltech
Ron, It's been my experience the only adhesives that work reliably on PV backsheets are those designed for the purpose, such as Dow 804 et. al.. Substances such as silicone sealant, tool polymerics, and others will appear to be suitable when first applied, but they eventually peel loose over a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Rapid shutdown questions

2014-08-29 Thread Exeltech
Dave's point below is excellent. The solar energy industry has a work group comprised of volunteers who work diligently to craft safe Code, yet acceptable and workable Code for the renewable energy industry. It's a moving target at best. We do not write the NEC. We submit proposed changes to

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverters Maximum Input Ratings

2014-08-29 Thread Exeltech
Marco, The applicability of your statement ... "... what’s beyond dispute is that when we size the solar array higher than the nameplate inverter output, there will be clipping that takes place….i.e., harvestable solar power that goes nowhere." depends to a great extent on the site climate

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupling Relays

2014-06-16 Thread Exeltech
Focus is on the relay contacts. Any good designer will have already incorporated protective diodes for relay DC coils, so nothing needed unless specifically stated in the instruction/installation manual. Do NOT connect any diodes across the relay contacts. Bob Gudgel is 100% on target with his

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lightning Damage - Need Replacements (Correction)

2014-06-16 Thread Exeltech
Hello Larry, A number of Wrenches have also contacted me off-list asking me to keep them informed. Clearly interest on this topic is high. To that point, I'll gladly post findings and updates here when information becomes available. In reference to "his grounds didn't work" .. perhaps I ought

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lightning Damage - Need Replacements (Correction)

2014-06-15 Thread Exeltech
Hello Todd, I forwarded your query to my friend "Mike". Waiting for a reply as we speak. He's been a bit slow responding. Repairs are a priority at the moment. Everything electrical in the house was destroyed. As an indicator, he told me the wall cubes for his router and his home weather s

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lightning Damage - Need Replacements (Correction)

2014-06-15 Thread Exeltech
ection) on an educational note dan, can you further detail the lightning protection equipment which was incorporated into the system? specifically if spd's were in the system? i have installed several midnight spd's and am curious how they do in real world situations like this. thanks, t

[RE-wrenches] Lightning Damage - Need Replacements (Correction)

2014-06-15 Thread Exeltech
Wrenches, My apologies for an error. When I was given information about the lightning-damaged equipment a few days ago, my friend was understandably a bit rattled after a direct lightning hit to his home, and inadvertently provided incorrect model numbers for the Outback charge controllers. T

[RE-wrenches] Lightning Damage - Need Replacements

2014-06-11 Thread Exeltech
Wrenches, A friend of mine experienced the destruction of major parts of his system in a recent lightning storm. Everything was extensively grounded and protected, but he lives in an area with very high soil resistivity, so good earth ground is very difficult to achieve. (The lightning hit h

Re: [RE-wrenches] Module Degradation - voltage or current?

2014-06-03 Thread Exeltech
Dana, Excellent question. More than 20 years of PV degradation research conducted by NREL and others has shown the dominant loss to be in the Isc and fill-factor aspects of PV performance due to increasing effective series resistance. Voc stays essentially stable over the life of the PV modu

Re: [RE-wrenches] Halliburton science says solar PV can drain the sun's energy! (SATIRE!)

2014-05-24 Thread Exeltech
On Sat, 5/24/14, Jerry Shafer wrote: Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Fwd: Halliburton science says solar PV can drain the sun's energy! To: "RE-wrenches" Date: Saturday, May 24, 2014, 6:39 PM Wrenches, Its SATIRE! Read this from the Wyoming Star Tribu

Re: [RE-wrenches] Modified sine deterioration

2014-05-20 Thread Exeltech
Hello Jason, Aside from a peek at the mod-square inverter waveform now and then (with an oscilloscope) .. there's nothing more you can do in terms of "troubleshooting". Your interval could be a year or more, especially when the product is new. In terms of "preventive" .. install inverters in

Re: [RE-wrenches] Modified sine deterioration

2014-05-20 Thread Exeltech
Hello Drake, As a professional electrial design engineer in the solar energy industry, I can say without hesitation, the simple answer to your question is "Yes". Waveforms can deterioriate as components age. Lower-quality capacitors will dry out in 20 years' use (or less!), and this in turn

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hijacked Website

2014-04-30 Thread Exeltech
Dan (Brown), Some suggestions. #1: In the unlikely chance the website might suddenly go away, get screen shots of everything ASAP. Download and keep copies of each page of the website. This can be done using the "Save Page As" option (or equivalent) under "File". Save all downloaded pages

Re: [RE-wrenches] high efficiency modules in U.S.

2014-04-29 Thread Exeltech
high efficiency modules in U.S. To: "RE-wrenches" Date: Tuesday, April 29, 2014, 5:36 PM Dan, Are they assembling or actually making cells as well? jay peltz power On Apr 28, 2014, at 8:52 PM, Exeltech wrote: > There's also 1Soltech Dallas, Texas. > > Made in the USA.

Re: [RE-wrenches] high efficiency modules in U.S.

2014-04-28 Thread Exeltech
There's also 1Soltech Dallas, Texas. Made in the USA. (Confirmed. I visited their plant on a field trip with a solar energy club not long ago and saw their production line in operation.) They make 60-cell and 80-cell PV ranging from 230W to 350W, and maybe others. They've even got a series o

[RE-wrenches] High-Voltage MPPT Charge Controller Needed

2014-04-10 Thread Exeltech
Wrenches, Does anyone know of a good quality temperature compensated, three-state charge controller capable of working with a 360 volt battery system? (An equalize mode is also highly desired.) The battery consists of 30 series-connected 12V, 260 A-H deep-cycle sealed lead-acid batteries conn

Re: [RE-wrenches] Capacitive Discharge Test Results

2014-03-28 Thread Exeltech
Corey, I'm not pro nor con one way other another on the use of the 1M resistor Chris mentioned in the system you described. However .. if you DO end up following his suggestion .. there are precautions you'll need to observe: 1. Resistors have a maximum voltage rating. Make sure the resistor

Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC 690.10(C) talking points

2014-03-20 Thread Exeltech
> ... we've found that running a 240 welder off 2 stacked Trace SWs gives a lot > more oomph than off a 6kW generator. Altitude is indeed a factor. So too is the vastly superior transient response of the inverter compared to a genset. Poor transient capability is one reason (of many) that mak

Re: [RE-wrenches] Uni-Solar, Kaneka.now Panasonic?

2014-03-14 Thread Exeltech
ruction. For a test last summer I installed a few silicon energy modules with Tigos. I never saw their 190W module produce over 154W (tilt of 35 degrees, straight south) not exactly scientific, but thought the glass on glass construction might be at work. Jesse Sent from my iPhone > On Mar

Re: [RE-wrenches] Uni-Solar, Kaneka.now Panasonic?

2014-03-14 Thread Exeltech
Larry, As August pointed out, there are too many variables related to PV performance to focus on just one and call it "good". He's right on target. For a very simplistic example... One aspect of PV performance relates to cell temperature, which in turn is affected by the NOCT rating of the PV

Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof

2014-03-14 Thread Exeltech
Do NOT connect chokes from any of the PV leads to ground. It will create a DC path where no DC path should exist. It's hazardous, and can/will destroy the inverter. Inductance is indeed an offset to capacitance in many situations .. but this is not one of them. Dan Lepinski Professional In

Re: [RE-wrenches] Autocad

2014-03-12 Thread Exeltech
For line drawings and other 2D illustrations, Libre CAD reads and writes DXF files. There are versions for Windows, Apple OSX, and Linux. It's also F-R-E-E. Simply download and install. http://librecad.org/cms/home.html Dan On Wed, 3/12/14, Bil

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery spill containment

2014-03-10 Thread Exeltech
I also vote for plastic. Contact Radiant Solar Technology in Ukiah, CA. They make a variety of durable, ventilated HDPE enclosures. http://www.homepower.com/contractors/radiant-solar-technology I've had two of their enclosures in my solar trailer for five years. Well constructed. Zero probl

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flourescent lamps

2014-03-08 Thread Exeltech
Mac, Check the power factor on one complete lamp assembly. If you can't test it for yourself, either have someone do it for you .. or contact the lamp manufacturer and get the actual specifications. Some of the new electronic ballasts present a leading power factor, which if sufficiently capa

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld diodes

2014-03-01 Thread Exeltech
Ron... Bill's comments below are all absolutely excellent and spot-on - particularly his mention about the UL1703 certification. That said .. if you decide to proceed with the repair, I'd like to add a several additional details to the process: 1. Ensure the j-box you purchase is certified

Re: [RE-wrenches] California State Fire Marshal's "Solar Photovoltaic Installation Guidelines

2014-02-14 Thread Exeltech
William, Your frustration with the process is understandable, and quite justified to a great extent. However, to say "... those directly involved in the rule making process...", and alluding to your previous description including "industry advocates", is patently unfair. I'm one of those "

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solaredge inverters w/ backup generator

2014-02-14 Thread Exeltech
Chris, Even if a manufacturer agrees with you on incorporating an external shutdown option, don't expect near-term action, especially on existing models. A modification of this nature obviously affects the hardware aspects of an inverter. This alone mandates retesting of at least that aspect

Re: [RE-wrenches] Long transmission line inductance and LED light flicker

2014-02-12 Thread Exeltech
Troy, Elsewhere in this thread, boB (Midnite) suggested connecting one of the problematic lights and dimmers directly at the inverter output. This is a very sound recommendation, and would immediately rule in .. or rule out the conductors (and related circuits) as an issue. Another Wrench s

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC Solenoid Coil Current

2014-02-11 Thread Exeltech
Larry, A latching relay isn't suitable for fail-safe applications. Look into the "Kilovac Czonka III EV200HAANA". This series has a coil "economizer" that reduces coil current (and thus power consumption) after pull-in. Rated coil power is less than 2 watts. Models are good to 900Vdc and u

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Chargers

2014-02-10 Thread Exeltech
Bruce, The capacitors may or may not help, and could make things worse. If you've already encountered and solved this exact issue on other identical systems .. carry on. If not ... Switching power supplies have a double-whammy of being non-linear AND reactive. The reactive component is alm

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Module Fire Ratings

2014-02-07 Thread Exeltech
David and Wrenches, With several recent mentions on the Wrench board pertaining to PV fire ratings, and AHJ interpretations of the 2014 NEC we're hearing on this issue, I'm concerned this is a volcano on the verge of eruption. I recently attended a large meeting of Texas AHJ/CBO officials where

Re: [RE-wrenches] -48 Volts at the Phone Company

2014-02-03 Thread Exeltech
Keith, Another wrench commented about the Exeltech inverters being capable of working with a -48V battery system. His info was good. The DC input is "floating" on XP and MX inverters, and may be used in positive-ground telecom battery systems as well as negative ground systems .. s

Re: [RE-wrenches] Long transmission line inductance and LED light flicker

2014-02-02 Thread Exeltech
Troy, You're correct in your statement about dimmers operating on a phase shift within their own circuitry. However, that isn't likely the culprit here. 1000 feet of 350 MCM would have approximately 0.65 millihenry inductance per conductor. If the conductors are widely separated in a manner t

Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC 2014 690.12 Rapid Shutdown

2014-01-31 Thread Exeltech
Brian, UL1741, Section 64.11 stipulates the discharge time for capacitors at less than five minutes. Though the context of this Section specifically addresses capacitors that are accessible by some aspect of inverter disassembly, it would also be appropriate to extend its applicability to DC t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Very small PV systems for surveillance or other "micro" loads

2014-01-21 Thread Exeltech
+1 on Ray's comment about exact load. +1 on Ray's recommendation of measuring it yourself. +2! on Dan's "load creep" comment. I own a fairly respectable solar trailer, with adequate power and reserves for many needs. Three years ago, I provided solar power for an "environmental chili cook-off"

Re: [RE-wrenches] garage door opener interference with enphase

2014-01-18 Thread Exeltech
Hello Chad, Moving the antenna worked in your example below by separating it away from the interference source, and that is clearly the preferred option (as is oft suggested by FCC Part 15 statements). However, it does leave a possible issue: If there's that much interference emanating from t

Re: [RE-wrenches] garage door opener interference with enphase

2014-01-18 Thread Exeltech
Hello Mac, Your conjecture about radiated interference as the cause is very likely correct. RF is being generated by one or more inverters, and is swamping the garage door opener receiver .. rendering it "deaf" to the actual transmitter. Corrective action(s) for RF interference requires specia

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flickering LED lights on and Outback Dual 7248VFX system

2014-01-08 Thread Exeltech
GFI outlets have an internal circuit breaker. Likely the breaker contacts in that outlet are marginal (resistive), causing a voltage drop. The compressor pulls max current at the top of each compression cycle. When the peak compressor current coincides with an AC voltage peak (they're not nec

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flickering LED lights on and Outback Dual 7248VFXsystem

2014-01-07 Thread Exeltech
If only LED lamps on dimmers are flickering, suspect the dimmers, but this isn't yet certain. This can be assessed by plugging one of the flickering LED bulbs into the same circuit, but use the bulb in a table lamp and plug into an AC outlet to bypass the dimmer. Does the LED bulb still flicke

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flickering LED lights on and Outback Dual 7248 VFX system

2014-01-06 Thread Exeltech
There may also be a technical aspect of the dimmer that's adding to the flicker, depending on the type of dimmer(s) in use. Some dimmers use a device called a "silicon-controlled rectifier" .. or "SCR". They allow only half of the sine wave to pass. Half-wave power wasn't very noticeable when

Re: [RE-wrenches] Higher LVR to force full re-charge in small OGPV systems

2014-01-02 Thread Exeltech
Jay, You surmize correctly on both points. 12.0V equates to ~50% DOD. The LVD point should be higher. The actual value depends somewhat on the battery type and ambient temperature, but under lightly loaded conditions (e.g. C/30), the LVD should be adjusted for around 12.4Vdc to keep the disc

[RE-wrenches] OFF-LINE: Re: Higher LVR to force full re-charge in small OGPV systems

2013-12-31 Thread Exeltech
Hey Mr. Ray ... Aren't you just a gluttony of good info! You're darned handy to have around. I wasn't aware of the Midnite unit. I'll have to scope it out. I'm concerned with Eric's mention of the bid requiring a 120AH battery (~1.5 kWh) .. and only 75W PV. Hopefully their loads are small,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Higher LVR to force full re-charge in small OGPV systems

2013-12-31 Thread Exeltech
sis .. and they're adamant about seven year battery life .. you're going to have difficulty meeting their budget AND achieving their system goals. Happy New Year to all Dan On Tue, 12/31/13, Allan Sindel

Re: [RE-wrenches] Higher LVR to force full re-charge in small OGPV systems

2013-12-30 Thread Exeltech
Eric, Allan's recommendations on both points are excellent, and spot-on. I would add the following suggestions for your controller and system if budget and circumstances permit: 1) Use a MPPT model controller to enhance the recharge rate under less-than-ideal conditions. The PV is already un

Re: [RE-wrenches] Safely inducing arc fault and ground fault in a completed array

2013-11-25 Thread Exeltech
Carl, #1: Under the conditions described by Larry below .. if by some chance the resistor somehow completes a circuit, you'll have up to 10 milliamps flowing through a 40K resistor, and in that case .. up to 4 watts dissipated. To be on the safe side, use a 10W rated resistor just in case the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Square D Disconnects mounted on the slope of the roof.

2013-11-11 Thread Exeltech
Wrenches, There appears to be some misinformation getting into this thread. The "trip" mechanism within standard thermal over-current protective devices ("OCP devices") is mechanically spring-loaded, and is triggered by heat. Eric mentions below that Square D breakers are tested in a vertical o

Re: [RE-wrenches] Using legacy modules on micro-inverters

2013-09-30 Thread Exeltech
William, PV temperature coefficient of voltage is a function of the number of cells in series. For 72 cell PV (or two 36-cell PV in series), the coefficient is 2X that of 36 cells. Two SP75 in series, in an ambient temperature environment of -10C, and presuming a cell temperature of -10C at r

Re: [RE-wrenches] Li-I question

2013-09-23 Thread Exeltech
Ray .. and everyone .. I've been consulting recently on a large off-grid project where the battery price is in the $300/kW-h range for a purchase quantity of 100,000 SCiB cells. That's actually a low cell count compared to the automotive industry. The cells can accept up to 8C charge/discharg

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hawker versusu MK

2013-08-29 Thread Exeltech
batteries provide power for three portable solar electric systems ranging in size from 1 to 5 kW (with Exeltech sine wave inverters attached.) Batteries in portable applications such as this are not treated kindly, either mechanically or electrically. Frankly, it’s abusive. In spite of the rough

Re: [RE-wrenches] Reading material for Off Grid client

2013-08-18 Thread Exeltech
Jeremy, It depends on whether she's reading for enjoyment .. learning .. or both. To solve both, I recommend the CD (or is it DVD?) back issues of Home Power Magazine. If she's reading for fun .. point her to Kathleen's past "Home and Heart" columns. The world of off-grid living from a woman

Re: [RE-wrenches] Mouse pee in the SW

2013-08-16 Thread Exeltech
and dry it slowly and carefully. It is amazing how resilient electronics can be. I even laundered my Bluetooth. I will let you know after I install it if it stop works. William On Aug 15, 2013, at 4:33 PM, Exeltech wrote: > William, > > Urine is conductive, and apparen

Re: [RE-wrenches] Mouse pee in the SW

2013-08-16 Thread Exeltech
ch a good combo. It did work after the cleaning though. Thanks Jay Peltz power On Aug 16, 2013, at 5:11 AM, Exeltech wrote: > Bill, > > My short answer is .. if things work after all this .. I wouldn't recommend > doing anything to the circuit board a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Mouse pee in the SW

2013-08-16 Thread Exeltech
Bill, My short answer is .. if things work after all this .. I wouldn't recommend doing anything to the circuit board after cleaning it. Instead, I'd take steps to keep the mice from ever getting into the inverter again. Long answer... Normally, circuit boards will have been coated with a co

Re: [RE-wrenches] Mouse pee in the SW

2013-08-15 Thread Exeltech
William, Urine is conductive, and apparently has formed some unwanted electrical pathways between components. This conductivity could easily continue after the board has "dried" due to humidity in the air. If the need is dire, you can try the following: You will need two 9" x 12" ceramic ("Py

Re: [RE-wrenches] Relay for 48v Vent Fan

2013-08-08 Thread Exeltech
Mouser Electronics and Digi-key will also have these relays. You don't need anywhere near that heavy a relay. A fan consuming 6 watts at 48 volts equates to only 0.125 amps. A small relay with contacts rated for 0.5 amp at 48Vdc will be more than adequate. Get a relay with a coil of 500 ohms

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wet NiCad batteries

2013-06-25 Thread Exeltech
Jay, I second Bob-O's comment - completely. I inherited a number of pocket-plate ni-cad cells in the early 90s and went through the same exercise as Richard Perez -- including the same bad words he used (maybe more). If the cells are truly diminished in capacity, recycle them. The reconditionin

Re: [RE-wrenches] What is this terminal?

2013-06-14 Thread Exeltech
Dave, The terminal is a Wago "Wall Nut". Per Wago's website, it is UL certified for 600V. Different color plastics for the various connectors to help keep track of various circuits. All have the same UL rating. Link: http://www.wago.us/products/2635.htm Regards, Dan --- On Fri, 6/14/13,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Presentations for Kids

2013-06-06 Thread Exeltech
Hello Jason (and all others who teach our younger kids about anything "solar")... As is well known, 6-10 year-old kids can be an interesting challenge. Hands-on projects keep them engaged.  Here are three suggestions: #1: Simple construction project: Solar box cooker. Requires very basic mater

[RE-wrenches] Adhesives. (Was "used panel mount questions")

2013-05-30 Thread Exeltech
Wrenches, There are PV-specific adhesives certified for use on backsheets. Examples are: Dow-Corning 737 Dow-Corning 804 Tonsan 1527 and others. These are silicone-based, but NOT at all like what you'd buy from big-box or similar outlets. Consumer-type silicone adhesives such as Ray mentioned

Re: [RE-wrenches] used panel mount questions

2013-05-30 Thread Exeltech
y 30, 2013, 6:06 PM good point dan... i wonder how frameless modules are intended to be mounted?   todd         On Thursday, May 30, 2013 4:00pm, "Exeltech" said: I agree with Allen, and would like to add a related comment.  Foam boards are thermally insulative in nature.  If affixed

Re: [RE-wrenches] used panel mount questions

2013-05-30 Thread Exeltech
I agree with Allen, and would like to add a related comment.  Foam boards are thermally insulative in nature.  If affixed to the PV with adhesive, they would cause the PV module to run hotter than if the backsheet was fully exposed to the air. This results in reduced energy output under all condit

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes

2013-05-13 Thread Exeltech
Try: Radiant Solar Technology 500 Milani Drive Ukiah, California 95482 (707) 485-8359 http://www.radiantsolartech.com Several years ago, they made two HDPE enclosures for me that each hold four Rolls-Surrette batteries..  The enclosures have a deep bottom for containing acid, and are ventila

Re: [RE-wrenches] not sure what's going on here

2013-05-12 Thread Exeltech
; to the many aged but wonderful minds on this list, I highly > suggest the controller upgrade first. At the very least, > reboot the controller in the morning and observe as it > reaches the limit. > > Larry Crutcher > > > > > > On May 12, 2013, at 5:44 AM, Ex

Re: [RE-wrenches] not sure what's going on here

2013-05-12 Thread Exeltech
Hello Wrench Team, Please forgive as this seasoned design engineer contributes to your discussion: The conditions and symptoms as originally posted are: 1) A PV array consisting of four Solarworld SW165 PV modules. [72-cell, mono PV, Voc=44.1V, Vmpp=35.3V, Isc=5.2A, Impp=4.7A, all values

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback wave form

2013-04-17 Thread Exeltech
Wrenches, While the addition of a capacitor may resolve issues associated with various inverter/appliance/motor combinations, please make sure the capacitor(s) get switched OUT of the circuit (disconnected) when the load itself is disconnected. Failure to do so could under some circumstances caus

Re: [RE-wrenches] BZ Products Charge Controllers

2013-04-10 Thread Exeltech
Nathan,I use BZ Products' MPPT250 and MPPT500 on portable PV power systemsthat get used (and abused) for providing power at various environmental andother events throughout the year.  Been using them for about 6 years, andstill have them in service.  (One MPPT250, four MPPT500.)The MPPT250 had a di

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cable tray

2013-04-01 Thread Exeltech
Conductors rated for 1000V and the same power you have in mind for the 600V conductors (hence lower current) can indeed use smaller wire, thus potentially saving on that aspect of the cost, and possibly making it lower in cost for a given system than the lower-voltage higher current counterpart. I

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cable tray

2013-03-31 Thread Exeltech
considered.  That goes without saying.  Whether higher voltage is a win or not depends on the system.  It may be in some cases, and not in others.  Chris mentioned only specific aspects of the BOS hardware -- which I addressed. Regards to all, Dan Lepinski Sr. Engineer Exeltech / Exeltech Sol

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cable tray

2013-03-31 Thread Exeltech
Hello Chris, >From a manufacturer's perspective .. you're incorrect on all assumptions. (Sorry.) It costs more to make higher-voltage anythings. Higher voltage means: Clearance / creepage distances are larger (thus bigger parts or products).  Insulation must be thicker (or have a higher dielectr

Re: [RE-wrenches] P1 micro performance

2013-03-23 Thread Exeltech
ure swings. Trying to explain in depth the "how and why" slightly larger PV is of benefit to a customer is like trying to explain photovoltaic equipment to the general public. As a competitor to Enphase .. I'm not coming to their defense.  However, what Nick said (below) IS fact.

Re: [RE-wrenches] P1 micro performance

2013-03-21 Thread Exeltech
ditional increase in the output for an increase in available energy at the input.  Think "governor" on an engine.... Thanks. Dan Lepinski, Sr. Engineer Exeltech / Exeltech Solar Products --- On Thu, 3/21/13, David Brearley wrote: From: David Brearley Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] P1 m

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC circuit breakers in parallel

2013-02-28 Thread Exeltech
William and all, Our larger UL-certified inverter systems at Exeltech are routinely built with multiple individual breakers with the handles pinned together to create a higher-amperage device. To William's point, and by way of example, it's common for us to have three 100-amp break

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC circuit breakers in parallel

2013-02-27 Thread Exeltech
Use a good "pin" to lock them together.  Make sure they can't disengage (lock-tite the hardware, etc.) and you're good to go. Stay warm out there (ha!). Dan --- On Wed, 2/27/13, Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems wrote: From: Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems Subject:

Re: [RE-wrenches] GEC for Micro-Inverters and ACPV Modules

2013-01-15 Thread Exeltech
Hello Mark (and all), Exeltech AC Module inverters do not have an external ground connection because they are certified to UL1741 as grounded through the utility ground. Also, and because all DC wiring is internal to the inverter, there is no requirement for DC ground-fault or arc-fault

Re: [RE-wrenches] roof rakes

2012-12-02 Thread Exeltech
I lived off-grid for eight years in the Wisconsin north woods.  Snow accumulating on PV and hot water collectors was often a problem. I used a lightweight plastic-framed cloth floor broom.  Had a threaded handle screwed into the broom head. The broom head threads were the same size as handles for

Re: [RE-wrenches] Still walking it back

2012-11-02 Thread Exeltech
ility in context will be determined by the direction of current flow into or out of the battery. Keep up the good work all Dan Lepinski, Senior Engineer Exeltech Solar --- On Fri, 11/2/12, Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems wrote: > From: Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Po

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Modules ready for primetime?

2012-10-31 Thread Exeltech
t used these modules yet, but I can see the benefits in the cable strategy. Jason Szumlanski  Fafco Solar On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Exeltech wrote: Hello Kirk, Our PVAC Modules are certified to UL and other applicable Standards on: Helios PV, Milwaukee, Wisc  ( http://www.heliossolarw

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Modules ready for primetime?

2012-10-31 Thread Exeltech
Pennsylvania, Texas, and Southern California. ( http://www.solarbine.net/ ) More PV manufacturers are working their way through in UL certification at this time, but non-disclosure agreements won't allow discussion yet. Dan Lepinski, Senior Engineer Exeltech Solar --- On Wed, 10/31

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Modules ready for primetime?

2012-10-31 Thread Exeltech
e in Fort Worth, Texas. Dan Lepinski, Senior Engineer Exeltech Solar --- On Wed, 10/31/12, David Katz wrote: From: David Katz Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Modules ready for primetime? To: "RE-wrenches" Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 10:39 AM Dan Lapinski, Does Exeltech make

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Modules ready for primetime?

2012-10-31 Thread Exeltech
I'd like to correct an error in Jim's statement below related to how we at Exeltech handle warranty. If an AC Module inverter should fail, the entire module does not need to be sent back for warranty -- just the inverter itself.  In our case, this involves removing four small screws t

Re: [RE-wrenches] How do we wrenches provide pertinent advice? (was120% rule applying to conductors)

2012-10-03 Thread Exeltech
accepted, rejected, or something in between. Jurisdictions are then free to use, change, or ignore any and all aspects of the NEC as they see fit. To Nick's point above, they do all of the above .. and again .. "whim and interpretation". Keep up the good work. Best Regards to All

Re: [RE-wrenches] How do we wrenches provide pertinent advice? (was120% rule applying to conductors)

2012-10-01 Thread Exeltech
William, My point exactly. Unfortunately, vocal inflection isn't easily incorporated into typed text. For an "advisory only" document, it has, in essence become the "law of the land" (as we're acutely aware), however subject to the whim and interpretation of the nationwide AHJ hierarchy and thei

Re: [RE-wrenches] How do we wrenches provide pertinent advice? (was120% rule applying to conductors)

2012-10-01 Thread Exeltech
Look inside the Code book. Page 1, at the bottom. Last paragraph on that page, which begins: "This Code is purely advisory as far as NFPA is concerned." Dan --- On Mon, 10/1/12, Drake wrote: > From: Drake > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] How do we wrenches provide pertinent advice? > (was12

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ilsco SGB bonding lug

2012-08-27 Thread Exeltech
When in doubt .. ask the manufacturer. Dan --- On Mon, 8/27/12, Kirpal Khalsa wrote: From: Kirpal Khalsa Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Ilsco SGB bonding lug To: "RE-wrenches" Date: Monday, August 27, 2012, 6:42 PM Benn...it looks like that lug has "stainless hardware for corrosion resistance"

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback with grid charging

2012-08-24 Thread Exeltech
g power. Without that change, we'd have been billed for our consumed power AND our back-fed power, which would have easily increased our bill by 50% or more. Dan, Senior Engineer Exeltech Solar Products --- On Fri, 8/24/12, David Katz wrote: From: David Katz Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches]

Re: [RE-wrenches] American modcos

2012-07-23 Thread Exeltech
Bill and Marco, I know both companies.  They're legit.  Made in the USA.  I've visited 1Soltech's plant, and will probably be at the Helios facilities later this year.  Both impress me as very good companies -- and truly made in America. Dan --- On Mon, 7/23/12, Bill Loesch wrote: From: Bill

Re: [RE-wrenches] Low power production at a winery: DC voltage drop upon SB6000 start-up

2012-07-22 Thread Exeltech
an Electrician Founder and Chief Technology Officer Positive Energy, Inc. 3209 Richards Lane (note new address) Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 505 424-1112 www.positiveenergysolar.com

Re: [RE-wrenches] Low power production at a winery: DC voltage drop upon SB6000 start-up

2012-07-22 Thread Exeltech
Eric, I checked my magic spreadsheet for the BP SX170. Using 800W/m^2 irradiance, and a presumed ambient of 37C (98F), everything appears to be working within specified tolerances.  The presumed conditions create exactly your measured Voc, which is why I used them.  Other temperature and irradian

Re: [RE-wrenches] Smart grid grid-connected compatibility

2012-07-08 Thread Exeltech
Kent, Life should be so easy as to be able just to tweak the firmware and make things all better. The moment a change is made to the firmware where the zero-crossing detection is involved .. UL safety standards mandate the inverters must undergo re-certification to the applicable aspects of UL174

Re: [RE-wrenches] Security / theft questions

2012-07-07 Thread Exeltech
An earlier post alluded to "minimal value" of old PV making it a less likely target.  In my case, neither age nor condition of the PV proved to be a deterrent. I had 40 Arco 16-2000 PV (30+ year-old PV) in a 1200 watt array (40 modules) in use at my off-grid home, and someone stole 20 of the PV th

Re: [RE-wrenches] bye-bye Schott

2012-07-02 Thread Exeltech
1Soltech manufactures PV near Dallas, Texas. http://www.1soltech.com/ Helios manufactures PV in Milwaukee. http://www.heliossolarworks.com/ Solar Power Industries manufactures PV near Pittsburgh. http://www.solarpowerindustries.com/ Dan --- On Fri, 6/29/12, Marco Mangelsdorf wrote: From: M

Re: [RE-wrenches] Number of Controllers

2012-05-24 Thread Exeltech
I second Larry's recommendation of Blue Sky charge controllers. I've used them for several years under some very adverse conditions, yet they've performed flawlessly.  Support too has been excellent. Dan Sr. Engineer Exeltech --- On Wed, 5/23/12, Larry Crutcher, Starlight Sola

Re: [RE-wrenches] power factor

2012-05-07 Thread Exeltech
Hello Todd, The short answer to your "is this a concern?" query, is "no". Reactive power is one of the more complex aspects of electric power, and certainly one of the most misunderstood.  It can and does involve inductive loads (e.g. motors), capacitive loads (e.g. some types of power supplies),

Re: [RE-wrenches] Nickel-Iron Batteries

2012-05-07 Thread Exeltech
Bob is correct in his warning about the Chinese Ni-Fe cells. As I recall, they had a translucent white case, but there may have been others .. and as Bob mentioned, they did indeed have a very high failure rate. Thanks Bob for remembering this. Mine are (and were) Edison cells, and were imprinte

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