Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-19 Thread August Goers
[ mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.orgre-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *frenergy *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:46 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods William, Billfrom another Bill, Two things: For the rest

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-19 Thread Jesse Dahl
-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of William Miller Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:33 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods Bill: There is no need to stuff MC4 cables into standard conduit. You can either slot

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-19 Thread jay peltz
From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of William Miller Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:33 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods Bill: There is no need to stuff MC4 cables

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-19 Thread Glenn Burt
.. -Glenn From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of August Goers Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:39 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods Hi All - On a related note, I've become good

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-19 Thread August Goers
-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *jay peltz *Sent:* Tuesday, November 19, 2013 10:33 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods Hi August, I can only assume that the inspectors are talking about say running

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-18 Thread William Miller
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of frenergy Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:46 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods William, Billfrom another Bill, Two things: For the rest of us (maybe it's just me?!) that's still trying

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-18 Thread William Miller
To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods William, I know your long-time stance on conduit. It has its place. This report was about an integrated PV system that caught fire because of a module failure-this was not a cable management issue. We can all jump on our respective

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-15 Thread Chris Mason
...@charter.net To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods Hi William (and any other person who wishes to describe themselves as professional (designer, installer, etc.)), Please accept this note

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Bill Loesch
Hi William (and any other person who wishes to describe themselves as professional (designer, installer, etc.)), Please accept this note as confirmation that your evangelism on wire management has not fallen on entirely deaf ears. Additionally, I'm curious how the practice of requiring a

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread frenergy
solar1onl...@charter.net To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods Hi William (and any other person who wishes to describe themselves as professional (designer, installer, etc.)), Please accept

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Kirpal Khalsa
...@charter.net To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods Hi William (and any other person who wishes to describe themselves as professional (designer, installer, etc.)), Please accept this note

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread August Goers
-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Kirpal Khalsa *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:42 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods Bill.we have been using the Hellerman Tyton Sunbundler cable tiesThey are braided stainless steel wire with a UV resistant vinyl jacketWe

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Ray Walters
...@charter.net To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods Hi William (and any other person who wishes to describe themselves

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Kirpal Khalsa
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Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Jason Szumlanski
I know we've had this discussion before, but I wanted to again recommend the WireClips from PV Racking. We are using them on Enphase trunk lines, and find them to be great for this purpose. At $0.25 each, they are cost effective. That said, wire management is often a matter of strong opinion, and

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods Hi William (and any other person who wishes to describe themselves as professional (designer, installer, etc.)), Please accept this note as confirmation that your evangelism on wire management has not fallen on entirely deaf ears

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Benn At DayStarSolar
1982 - Original Message - From: Bill Loesch solar1onl...@charter.net To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods Hi William (and any other person who wishes to describe themselves

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Bill Brooks
. Bill. From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of William Miller Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 1:42 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods Bill: I respectfully disagree with your logic

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Bill Loesch
That said [PV WireClips], wire management is often a matter of strong opinion, and we are far from standardization and an accepted set of best practices. Jason Szumlanski Fafco Solar Jason, Can your wire management procedures equal the 20, 25, or 30 year warranty your modules offer? I hope

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Ray Walters
I'm ordering the Jason's PV wire clips. Vinyl coated metal will outlast any plastic sip, and they clip into the slot on the rails: much cleaner than a zip tie all the way around the rail. It doesn't cure all our wire management issues, but it looks like it will solve some of it. In

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Ray Walters
:* Wednesday, November 13, 2013 1:42 PM *To:* 'RE-wrenches' *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods Bill: I respectfully disagree with your logic: Define perfectly installed. If your connections are tight and permanent and the conductors are protected from damage, you have a great chance

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Bill Hoffer
Jason I just started using Nine Fasteners, Inc www.ninefasteners.com . 410 stainless wire management clips. Got turned on to them at SPI this year. They are awesome, same basic clip concept except they add a nice rounding along the edges that keeps it from cutting into the wire. A step above

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread jay peltz
Hi Bill, I get mine from PV-cables Less expensive and no minimum order Cheers, jay peltz power On Nov 14, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Bill Hoffer wrote: Jason I just started using Nine Fasteners, Inc www.ninefasteners.com . 410 stainless wire management clips. Got turned on to them at SPI

[RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-13 Thread William Miller
Bill: I respectfully disagree with your logic: Define perfectly installed. If your connections are tight and permanent and the conductors are protected from damage, you have a great chance of a reliable, safe lifetime of service. How can you guarantee that your leads will stay protected