ittle out of date. (In
more ways than one.)
Trudy
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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 15:35:28 +1100
Reconciliation is where we take away all the specific subsidies and start
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> Well it's not mine so no objection!
>
> See in this day and age though, things are a lot more developed and
> ownership is now bought. That
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>My racist voyage of ignorance???
>
>How dare you call me a racist!
Of Laurie Forde
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Reconciliation is where we take away all the specific
subsidies and start giving to people for credit of their situations rather than
race. There are all colours out there on the streets homeless, on drugs or
drinking too much
Does that mean that we would also take away subsidies from
farm
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>Well it's not mine so no objection!
>
>See in this day and age tho
d new house if someone
suddenly came around and said you were sitting on a sacred site
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till don't see how it is a race issue. Still,
nobody has come up with anything concrete.
Why does nobody jump up and call it racist when a white person dies in
custody?
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pun). Have a
think about the issues... try to put yourself in someone else's shoes.
Please.
Glenn Murray
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Hi Karen,
My feeling about your answer is that you're not
talking about reconciliation but about something less specific like living in
a fair country, judging by your comments below. Reconciliation is about
that too, but it refers to a particular relationship, namely, that
e strength
of our own right arm.
Graham
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> If you're going to go back, why not go back all the w
own opinions.
We all form them from something we believe in don't we?
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I am forward
Do a block sender on my e-mail address!!
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Hello
can someone tell me if
es in
custody?
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KAREN SAYS: In refernce to the above first para -
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Karen,
As I remember it you made clear statements that there
was no racism in the laws of this land. You made statements that the
police are not racist. You made other statements
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Graham says: If you don't know enough, then do us the courtesy of =
doing some research and finding out.
Karen says:=20
Excuse me but you were the one to
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Karen wrote:
> Tim,
>Just because he doesn't believe in saying sorry
doesn't mean he doesn't believe in people living as >a nation
united!!
Hi Karen - I
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> life.>
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> Reconciliation without forgiveness??? H...
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> Glenn Murray
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s ago stating that a recent poll showed a large majority (over 50%) of Australians
agreed with John Howard??
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KAREN SAYS: In refernce to the above first para - to
which you were talking about - he does not actually say that Tim. So you are
interpreting it the way you want. He never actually got quoted as saying he
doesn't believe in reconciliation.
Hi again Karen - you're right about t
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Graham says:
If you don't know enough, then do us the courtesy of doing some
research and finding out.
Karen says:
Excuse me but you were the one to bring up this
social justice
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Unfortunately I was not around over 200 years ago
when this great nation first developed
history. This is the duty of our government,
and it is something at which they have clearly failed.
Cheers.
Glenn Murray
"I am a peanut"
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aren Crook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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The difference with your examples is that you are saying it to someone you
know and love.
Saying sorry to a race is entirely different - you say it to a g
o
they want as a leader. And look at who we got. Big mistake hey?? I hate the guy
but the 'no sorry' business is the only thing I agree with from
him.
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It's different and personal - perhaps we should leave it there.
K
:-)
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Karen Crook wrote:
I do understand the story and it is ver
uld be considered the essence of reconciliation?!
Cheers.
Glenn Murray
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In other words I will never forge
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Reconciliation without forgiveness??? H...
Glenn Murray
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Se
;t attack me for giving you an honest "I don't know enough". You brought it
up, not me.
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Reconciliation without forgiveness??? H...
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>How would you feel, Karen? Would
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the man no shame!
Karen,
I don't know why you are so defensive about your age. There are many
young people on the list. Some younger than you are.
You ask why an apology is necessary and how it will make reconc
Karen Crook wrote:
I do understand the story and it is very sad. Over time most people never forget but they do move on. It's not about whether the other person or their
children apologise, it is about yourself becoming stronger and moving on with life. Everyone has suffered some sort of har
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discussing this stuff. Would you mind if I use
your scenario?
THanks again
Annette
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PM
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shame!
Unfortunately I was not around over 200 years ago
when this great nation first developed therefore I cannot give an informed
opinion. I do not know what really happened.
I
know only the
Karen wrote:
>
Tim,
>Just because he doesn't believe in saying sorry
doesn't mean he doesn't believe in people living as >a nation
united!!
Hi Karen - I'm not quite sure how you got this from what I
wrote - my point was that in one statement he says he beleives
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Trudy and Karen,
If I understand what you have both written
correctly, I think we have
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> From: Karen Crook
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> >How would you feel, Karen? Would you forgive them and go
> f
yes or a no. I am sure I know where you stand Trudy.
;-))
Graham Y
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Karen Crook
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PM
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>How would you feel, Karen? Would
ve about my age I
put forward my age simply to show which generation I am from and that my views
are from a younger person.
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RecOzNet
Karen,
I don't know why you are so defensive about your age. There are many
young people on the list. Some younger than you are.
You ask why an apology is necessary and how it will make reconciliation
work. An apology is only a part of reconciliation but a very necessary
part.
Let me pose you a s
>
Tim,
>Just because he doesn't believe in saying sorry
doesn't mean he doesn't believe in people living as >a nation
united!!
>There is no need for a sorry - how will it make
reconciliation work?
>Can anyone even answer that
question?
Karen
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