On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Michel MENGIS wrote:
the kernel 2.4 test7 isn't supporting IDE RAID card ;(
but there is something interessting: "SCSI - ATA IDE Emulation" what's
this?
It's been there since 2.0.31 or so, and is the ide-scsi.o driver
used for IDE CD writer drives under Linux.
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I'm wanting to write a replacement C function for a few different
glibc calls for debugging purposes, and other uses as well.
The functions in mind are small, including straight kernel
syscalls, etc..
I'm looking at the glibc source and it goes way over my
head. Some of the functions appear to
I'm currently using the gcc that comes with RH 6.1. It did not
recognize the std::vectorT.at(int idx) call, had to use
std::vectorT[int idx] instead. Has the .at function been
implemented in a later edition of gcc?
Joe Kelch
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I'm currently using the gcc that comes with RH 6.1. It did not
recognize the std::vectorT.at(int idx) call, had to use
std::vectorT[int idx] instead. Has the .at function been
implemented in a later edition of gcc?
with everything other
I have that same question. I've been wanting to un sub for a while too.
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This sort of thing is inherently a non-portable problem like
detecting endianness and other such things. It is unlikely any
Detecting endianness isn't hard to do portably. I did it about 20 years ago,
in COBOL, when coding for a Honeywell mini. The owners didn't know whether it
was beg
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Rick Teudt wrote:
I am trying to figure out how to pass a command-line argument into an expect
script.
For example, suppose I have a script called update.exp. The first few lines
of update.exp are as follows:
#!/usr/bin/expect
spawn $env(SHELL)
Yeah it is possible..
expect wants a tcl syntax. With tcl you can pass arguments to the
script but non with $1, $2 like in bash.
The argument is stored in a variable named argv (see man expect for
details).
In your case you should only make the change $1$argv
Thanks, works great!
RPM 4 depends on db3-devel? Where do I get that?
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I just built XFree86-4.0.1-0.43.src.rpm and everything went okay. Here
is a listing of the RPMS it generated. Am I missing something, where are
the XServer RPMS? For instance I don't see a MACH_64 XServer which I
need to run my ATI card. Hopefully there is a logical explanation.
-rw-rw-r--1
Frank Hale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
I just built XFree86-4.0.1-0.43.src.rpm and everything went okay. Here
is a listing of the RPMS it generated. Am I missing something, where are
the XServer RPMS? For instance I don't see a MACH_64 XServer which I
need to run my ATI card. Hopefully there
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From: John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 16:39
Subject: Re: SMP question ?
This sort of thing is inherently a non-portable problem like
detecting endianness and other such things. It is unlikely any
At 05:39 9/6/00 +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
This sort of thing is inherently a non-portable problem like
detecting endianness and other such things. It is unlikely any
Detecting endianness isn't hard to do portably. I did it about 20 years ago,
in COBOL, when coding for a Honeywell mini.
As of late, PacBell in Stockton (very local) has not let me complete from the
office on DSL, but home dsl is good. It is a recignized issue.
Bill
Kirk wrote:
I have downloaded many ISO images and rarely a problem, including as
far away as Hungary and Im in Calif. I dont recall having a
Hi,
I would like to block all the messenger services like yahoo messenger, aol, ICQ
etc through ipchains. I am using IPchains on redhat linux6.2. Please help? I also
want to make a ACL in squid to block all sites starting with "mail.". Is it
possible?
kapil
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Wayne Dyer wrote:
But there's gotta be a better solution. I'd like to use Netscape every now
and then to read mail, but then switch back to Mutt with no loss.
Well, it sounds like you want both Mutt and Netscape to
use the same local mail folders.
From Netscape
There is now in the redhat distribution tree a directory updates/6.2EE, with
kernel names xxx-2.2.16-4.lfs.i386.rpm
Of course, there is no README in that directory telling what is it, and no more
in the kernel-doc rpm.
lfs sounds like "linux file system", but can anybody tell me more ?
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hi thanx for U'r interest in this problem.
here is the complete /etc/lilo.conf file
corresponding to the output in previous mail.
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
default=linux
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.13
label=linux-2.2.13
root=/dev/hda2
Pierre,
My (unqualified) guess would be Large File System, i.e. including the
patch to handle files bigger than 2GB in size.
Regards
Gustav
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There is now in the redhat distribution tree a directory updates/6.2EE, with
kernel names xxx-2.2.16-4.lfs.i386.rpm
Of
Hi Bret,
Rearrange the lines in your lilo.conf to :
label=mynew
image=/boot/vmlinuz-mynew
root=/dev/hda2
read-only
For a moment I thought you we're right. But no, image always comes before
label. Check your lilo.conf. Please don't confuse me again ;-).
Gud Day!
I would like to have a .forward but still wants a copy of the forwarded
mail in my inbox? how do i do this? or what do i need to do that an email
will be forwarded but still i have a copy of it?
TIA
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On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Gustav Schaffter wrote:
My (unqualified) guess would be Large File System, i.e. including the
patch to handle files bigger than 2GB in size.
this seems to be another valid solution!
I heard about some work in progress on a journalized file system,
and thought that
Hello Madhu,
default=linux
label=linux-2.2.13
label=linux-2.2.22
label=linux-2.2.5
That helps! Your default entry shows a label that is no longer existent.
Delete the default entry (in which case the first entry is booted by default),
or enter an
Thanks mike,
Where can I find more info on radius?
DT
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From:
Michale C.
Balines
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 12:19
PM
Subject: Re: HELP HELP HELP
hi dee! try radius, it'll do it. better download
cistron-radius,
On 5 Sep 2000, Ben Logan wrote:
I keep a default route set for eth0 to another local computer.When someone
runs 'ifup ppp0' it destroys that route and replaces it with the route to my
isp. That's fine, except that I want to put the other route back when 'ifdown
ppp0' is run. So I
hi,
as far as i know and experienced, U can place
an entry in .forward file like
name@email
with this, a copy remains in U'r INBOX and one
copy will be sent to the mailid specified in
.forward file.
i did it in PINE and don't know what's U'rs.
At 12:28 AM 06-09-00, you wrote:
hi,
as far as i know and experienced, U can place
an entry in .forward file like
name@email
with this, a copy remains in U'r INBOX and one
copy will be sent to the mailid specified in
.forward file.
i did it in PINE and don't know what's
Leonard den Ottolander wrote:
Hi Bret,
Rearrange the lines in your lilo.conf to :
label=mynew
image=/boot/vmlinuz-mynew
root=/dev/hda2
read-only
For a moment I thought you we're right. But no, image always comes before
label. Check your
Hi friends,
I have three domains on my server and have set the MX record pointing to
the same server. Now I would like to redirect all mails sent to (_any_
user)@(_any_ domain of mine).
I understand that this may be done with procmail but I am not sure how
exactly to implement it. I shall be
I just upgraded from kernel 2.2.14 to 2.2.16 using the RH RPM's under
RH6.2.
Now I have to rerun the network startup script to get my network
runing. Under 2.2.14 it would run the network script and Fail
since my network card is a pcmcia card, but would delay the init
of eth0 and it would
I am running RH6.2 with the 2.2.16 kernel which includes
pcmcia 3.1.8.
When I boot my machine or reinsert my Adaptec APA1480 pcmcia card it
will
not init my card, it says the ports are already in use. Whet do I need
to get this to work?
Sep 4 19:23:55 my-machine cardmgr[502]: initializing
I am trying to get a working ssh solution on pinstripe. The
issue began when the binary rpms I have been using on my 6.X
machines segfault. I assume that this is due to the new
glibc but don't know. Since so many others on the list
appear to be using openssh with sucess, I figured now was a
"m" == madhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
m hi thanx for U'r interest in this problem.
m here is the complete /etc/lilo.conf file
m corresponding to the output in previous mail.
m boot=/dev/hda
m map=/boot/map
m install=/boot/boot.b
m prompt
m timeout=50
m default=linux
m
I tried to install an i686 RPM and RPM came back and said it was for
a different architecture. Can I not use i686 RPMs here??? I *thought*
I could Guess not...
John
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I can only think of one fix: change the order of
execution for your start-up scripts:
/etc/rc.d/rc3.d,rc5.d/S10network@
#change the '10' to a number greater than '45' so that
it will get executed *after* the pcmcia script below.
/etc/rc.d/rc3.d,rc5.d/S45pcmcia@
Hope this helps,
L.G.
On
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, Lawrence Houston wrote:
Red Hat USERS:
Although strickly NOT a Red Hat "problem", hopefully fellow Red Hat Users
might be able to "assist" (since they maybe effected)??? At two different
internet locations I am having difficulty getting FTP Downloads of a RH
ISO Image
Ok, I'm starting to get a bit down on this... last week, someone asked if
you can
install RH6.2 on a 486, and I confidently piped up "Sure!" Now, I'm not so
sure
that if can be done as easily as I thought.
Ok, here's the deal... I bought a 486 cheap a couple of weeks back to use as
a
-Original Message-
From: Ward William E PHDN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Redhat-List (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 9:25 AM
Subject: Network Installs on a low memory 486 how do I do it?
The machine was a 486 DX2-50 with built in 1 MB VLB video, a 3COM Ether
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi thanx for U'r interest in this problem.
here is the complete /etc/lilo.conf file
corresponding to the output in previous mail.
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
default=linux
I see one problem
From: "Jeff Hogg" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Ward William E PHDN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Redhat-List (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 9:25 AM
Subject: Network Installs on a low memory 486 how do I do it?
The machine was a 486
Hello all,
Does anyone know if its possible to use a windows 95, 98, nt share on
one machine in conjunction with linux/samba on another. Essentially, I
want a setup where multiple window machines share their space with what
appears to be one partition on a single linux/samba box. Any ideas or
From this, it appears to me to be obvious
Your default is wrong... there is no image that
you have labeled as linux. You need to change
default=linux to default=linux-2.2.22 (or whatever
you wish to make your default partition) or you could
remove the timeout=50 and default=linux lines,
AMD K6 is normally a i586 AMD K6/2 can sometimes handle i686.
It would be nice if future versions of gcc allow options such
as i686k62, i686mii, i586mii, i586k5, i586k6, i686k7, i686KD,
etc. for the non-Intel architectures... I won't hold my breath,
though.
Bill Ward
-Original
You really ought to look in to PortSentry... It sees someone hitting
multiple ports successively, automatically adds them to hosts.deny, and
adds a rule to your ipchains to dump their packets... After they tri[ it's
protection, your machine becomes a black hole... You can also set up
specific
-Original Message-
From: Dave Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
From: "Jeff Hogg" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Ward William E PHDN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The machine was a 486 DX2-50 with built in 1 MB VLB video, a 3COM Ether
Express III, 16 MB of RAM, a mouse,
From: Ward William E PHDN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:39:56 -0400
earlier messages snipped
Jeff,
When I started this, I thought I'd have 32MB of RAM to do it in... It
probably
would have worked (I've done installs on P100s with only 24 MB, albeit via
CD).
The key seems
"wwep" == Ward William E PHDN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From this, it appears to me to be obvious
wwep Your default is wrong... there is no image that
wwep you have labeled as linux. You need to change
wwep default=linux to default=linux-2.2.22 (or whatever
wwep you wish to make your
hello all,
thanx for your help.
atlast the problem got solved...
as all of you mentioned, it was problem
with the missing DEFAULT entry.
i.e. there must be an entry corresponding
to the line
default=x
so I changed the above line to
default=linux-2.2.13
which is the
Hello all,
I'm currently locking horns with our network admin because he tells me it's
impossible to do traceroutes to the outside world if you are using NAT and
are behind a PIX firewall (I assume the same with any firewall). I don't
believe this line of bull because I'm sure there is a way
-Original Message-
From: Dave Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: Network Installs on a low memory 486 how do I do it?
From: Ward William E PHDN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:39:56
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
though the problem is solved, iam still unable
to understand why it was not including that
single image(the one i added newly).
why just that image was missing in the options
at boot time.
anybody can tell why this happened.
Because it
Well, I do them from behind my firewall all the time...
I imagine he is doing something like blocking ICMP packets or something else
he shouldn't be doing..
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From: Steve Curry [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 1:11 PM
To: [EMAIL
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:11:02AM -0700, Steve Curry wrote:
Hello all,
I'm currently locking horns with our network admin because he tells me it's
impossible to do traceroutes to the outside world if you are using NAT and
are behind a PIX firewall (I assume the same with any firewall). I
I've looked through the man page and I just can't find how to do this.
I'd like to start a command in a new terminal, let's say for instance:
xterm -e ps aux | grep emacs
and then leave the terminal open so that I can view the results of the
command and any error messages.
Thanks in advance,
hello John,
i think you understood what i wanted to say.
when i ran lilo, it added the image that is
below the new image in lilo.conf file.
then why can't it do with the one i added(new image).
let me explain again.
look at this sample lines of code of /etc/lilo.conf
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 12:55:36PM -0500, Thomas R. Shannon wrote:
I've looked through the man page and I just can't find how to do this.
I'd like to start a command in a new terminal, let's say for instance:
xterm -e ps aux | grep emacs
and then leave the terminal open so that I can view
I've had a great time planning and building a .com, which will be launching
in a few weeks. I thought it would be great for many others in the
community to hear about my hurdles, successes, and failures with
implementing a completely open source, yet high-profile solution. I plan on
doing a
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hello John,
i think you understood what i wanted to say.
when i ran lilo, it added the image that is
below the new image in lilo.conf file.
then why can't it do with the one i added(new image).
[snip]
now when lilo can add both
Ward,
FYI, I did an ftp install of RH6.2 on a 486 with 16MB of RAM just a few
days ago. Not one hiccup.
OTOH, the one difference I see is that I had just one IDE disk on the
single IDE controller. I choose ftp since I've not foreseen to get a
CD-ROM for this PC at all.
Regards
Gustav
Ward
Dave,
Around where I live (in France) it's *impossible* to find memory cards
for those old PCs. I sometimes look at flee markets. I've seen 1MB
SIMMs, but no bigger than that. :-(
Regards
Gustav
Dave Reed wrote:
snip
Check the memory and if it's ok, pick up an extra 16MB of memory
(should
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Dan Browning spewed into the bitstream:
DBI've had a great time planning and building a .com, which will be launching
DBin a few weeks. I thought it would be great for many others in the
DBcommunity to hear about my hurdles, successes, and failures with
DBimplementing a
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, Gustav Schaffter wrote:
Ward,
FYI, I did an ftp install of RH6.2 on a 486 with 16MB of RAM just a few
days ago. Not one hiccup.
OTOH, the one difference I see is that I had just one IDE disk on the
single IDE controller. I choose ftp since I've not foreseen to get a
Gustav,
How long did it take to do the install? And what speed of disk
did you have? Both /tmp and my swap are destined for the very slow,
small Quantum IDE drive (not even EIDE). My problem seemed to be thrashing;
it simply sat there during the "Installing RPMs" phase thrashing the
It's an ISA w/ VLB connection machine and it takes IBM RAM... so
I can't use generics. And IBM SIMMS are going to cost more than the
machine did (remember, I only paid $30 for the entire machine,
sans my added VLB 2 MB Video Card and the 1.6 GB HD, but including the
monitor, keyboard, mouse
Ward,
Ward William E PHDN wrote:
Gustav,
How long did it take to do the install?
I sincerely don't know. I went to bed and came back next morning. :-)
And what speed of disk did you have?
I really don't know. Someone *gave* me the PC. (Swedish saying: Don't
watch the mouth of a
I would like to invite some of the redhat list members to join us on the
"ultimate" adventure.Defining, designing and builing the ultimate
textbook for kids around the world. We would like to state that this
device is intended to use open source software and be on an open
hardware platform.
%- I'm currently locking horns with our network admin because he
%- tells me it's
%- impossible to do traceroutes to the outside world if you are
%- using NAT and
%- are behind a PIX firewall (I assume the same with any firewall). I don't
%- believe this line of bull because I'm sure there is a
Hi,
I have a situation here where I do not have access to a Internet
Installer code. The problem is if the user types a # symbol in the data
collection (e.g. Apt #12) then Apache truncates everything after the #
symbol, resulting in an incomplete list of data needed to process the
query.
As I
I don't have multiple partitions in /lib, but I guess that since tar spits
the error out, when I do a full extract, I can capture the errors and deal
with them individually.
Thanks,
At 10:16 PM 09/04/2000 -0400, you wrote:
Do you have multiple partitions in there? (ie. the /lib directory is
-Original Message-
From: Pete Lancashire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, September 02, 2000 9:06 PM
Subject: dummy or /dev/null printer for lpr
I tried to create a dummy printer.
I used printtool and made the device /dev/null
Here is my
On 5/9/00 3:00 AM, kapil sharma struck keys that formed the message:
I would like to block all the messenger services like yahoo messenger, aol,
ICQ etc through ipchains. I am using IPchains on redhat linux6.2. Please help?
I also want to make a ACL in squid to block all sites starting with
Hello all,
I am using apache 1.3.12 on RH6.2 Kernel 2.2.12-20.
I am trying to restrict access to a directory with .htaccess,
but it doesn't seem to work. I can still see the contents. I
Have set up .htaccess before and not had a problem. I checked
in httpd.conf and found the line
Can anyone confirm that this motherboard works fine with RedHat 6.2?
Asus CUV4X
http://www.asus.com/products/motherboard/pentiumpro/cuv4x/index.html
The RedHat hardware compatibility web says all motherboards except a
few they list work as far as they know, but I'd like to be certain
before
sigh. Ok, I swear I have no idea how they do it, but my Mom and her
office staff never cease to amaze me I hope I don't get too long
winded here.
This was the message you got at the console when trying to log in. From
ssh 1K miles away I just got permission denied.
I'm guessing they did a
I currently have one LinkSys (Tulip) card in the box and will soon
add a second in order to talk to the in-house LAN.
When I install the second card, is there anything that can be done beforehand
to make sure the current card stays eth0 and the new card becomes eth1?
Or am I at the mercy of the
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 03:59:41PM -0500, Robert Canary wrote:
| I have a situation here where I do not have access to a Internet
| Installer code. The problem is if the user types a # symbol in the data
| collection (e.g. Apt #12) then Apache truncates everything after the #
| symbol, resulting
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 12:55:36PM -0500, Thomas R. Shannon wrote:
| I've looked through the man page and I just can't find how to do this.
| I'd like to start a command in a new terminal, let's say for instance:
|
| xterm -e ps aux | grep emacs
|
| and then leave the terminal open so that I
snip
The real
kicker is the 16mb of ram.. I think you can do it, but its slim. Good
luck.
Jeff Hogg
I'd be more likely to suspect the memory. There is a minimum memory
needed to run the installer (although I _thought_ it was 16MB for RH
5.x and 6.x). Certainly an extra 16MB would
Charles Galpin wrote:
sigh. Ok, I swear I have no idea how they do it, but my Mom and her
office staff never cease to amaze me I hope I don't get too long
winded here.
This was the message you got at the console when trying to log in. From
ssh 1K miles away I just got permission
Great idea (and not the only one to suggest it), but best done ahead of
time. I have a crappy memory and doubt I'd get everything right :)
I'll definately think about it.
thanks
charles
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Bret Hughes wrote:
Charles, What about setting up a boot/rescue disk with the correct
thanks to all that respond.
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I think you could just switch the slots the cards are in if you find the
order changes on you. Also if it does change, it's really not that big a
deal to change eth0 to eth1.
hth
charles
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Bret Hughes wrote:
Vidiot wrote:
I currently have one LinkSys (Tulip) card in the
Bret responded:
I believe you are in the land of making sacrifices to the bios gods here unless
the cards are isa. I would bet with isa you will be able to set the irq/io
addresses up so that you can distinguish between the two. pci on the other hand
I suspect that you are right. As
Hi all,
Need your help.
When I give the command nslookup, it gives the domainname and IP. While give
the command host it shows hostname but when give the command domainname it
gives blank line. Can anybody help to trace out the problem?
regards
Deependra B. Tandukar
www.coremag.net/cvs/dt.htm
where do I go for docs on where rpm looks for libraries to
link into an executable. In another (unanswered :( ) post I
asked about the glibc-2.2, actually 1.9x, version of glibc
on the pinstripe iso and the -ldb1 not found messages I get
shen trying to compile openssh using rpm -bb.
Frantically
Charles responded:
I think you could just switch the slots the cards are in if you find the
order changes on you. Also if it does change, it's really not that big a
deal to change eth0 to eth1.
I suspect that if it does turn the configurations around, I can just swap
the cables :-) As long as
Bret Hughes wrote:
Vidiot wrote:
I currently have one LinkSys (Tulip) card in the box and will soon
add a second in order to talk to the in-house LAN.
When I install the second card, is there anything that can be done beforehand
to make sure the current card stays eth0 and the new
Deependra B. Tandukar posted:
When I give the command nslookup, it gives the domainname and IP. While give
the command host it shows hostname but when give the command domainname it
gives blank line. Can anybody help to trace out the problem?
Issuing nslookup without anything results in
But -- in general, and this is sheer superstition, the device number will
increase the farther away from the AGP slot (or the closer to the ISA
slots if there's no AGP) you go.
Thanks. It so happens that the cards will be in the order you mentioned.
MB
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Bart:
Thanks
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From: Vidiot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: Domainname HELP HELP HELP
Deependra B. Tandukar posted:
When I give the command nslookup, it gives the domainname and IP. While
give
the command
I read the rpm man page and executed "rpm -y S5 /*" and nothing would
work. Where did I go wrong?
Note: Detailed Document(s) and Sample(s) are more than welcome.
When you reply to this message, please include
the mailing list and my email address.
this command should start by telling you that S5 isn't installed... I'm
not getting into specifics of why.. refer to the following:
rpm -yp * --this will verify all packages (by filename) in the current
directory
rpm -yp /* --same deal but it will check / (which should contain
Please forgive the off topic post but I don't subscribe to a
perl list, and hate to for the occasional question.
OK, I give up. I know this should be a simple task but I
cannot get it to work. I am using the perl libwww request
object to retrieve the results of a POST. I get the result
back
On 14-Aug-00 Manuel Camacho wrote:
I guess you mean mathematical regression tools that allow you to take
experimental data and correlate it to get an equation that describes the
phenomena in a more or less (measured) accurate way.
actually, I mean test regression tools. like Rational
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