Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-17 Thread Anthony E. Greene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Edward Dekkers wrote: >Let's be serious, what is wrong with a tool that does everything? We were >all brought up on .conf files, we learn them, know them, etc. But >really.why the necessity? Why try to remember the syntax of

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-17 Thread Anthony E. Greene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16 Jan 2002, Bret Hughes wrote: >On Wed, 2002-01-16 at 18:40, Anthony E. Greene wrote: >> That's for old timers. These days, people want more than an old text >> editor like vi. That's why I switched to vim ;-) > >I gave up on the old text based s

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-17 Thread Chuck Mead
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Rodolfo J. Paiz posted the following: RJP>At 1/17/2002 09:02 AM -0500, you wrote: RJP>>My question is to all, what can webmin do that LC can't? I've found it can RJP>>only do fewer things. RJP> RJP>I use Webmin extensively to ru

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-17 Thread Rodolfo J. Paiz
At 1/17/2002 09:02 AM -0500, you wrote: >My question is to all, what can webmin do that LC can't? I've found it can >only do fewer things. I use Webmin extensively to run about five servers in three countries. It has *never* (repeat, *never*) broken anything. It runs in my browser, with SSL en

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-17 Thread Chuck Mead
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17 Jan 2002, Bret Hughes posted the following: BH>Speaking of the shell-scripting list I guess chuck locked down hie mail BH>server REALLY tight. I can not longer post to it or sen him a mail to BH>complain about it. I think it is because I use

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-17 Thread Eric Wood
What's kills me is that RH "deprecates" Linuxconf in there docs and has no substitute - what a testimony! In fact, RH always ships a outdated version of LC, with most of the modules disabled. RH never has considered pulling the latest LC down from Jacques' site which he made compatible with the

RE: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-17 Thread Ani_Adarsh
Does --- Anon > -Original Message- > From: Thomas Ribbrock [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 2:21 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Linuxconf Substitute? > > [Bloatmail snipped] > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 05:3

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-17 Thread Thomas Ribbrock
[Bloatmail snipped] On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 05:34:40PM -0600, JW wrote: > Hey, no need to change, you were right the first time. emacs has an X > Window mode too :-) Tsk, tsk, tsk - if you want to use emacs under X, use XEmacs... :-) Cheerio, Thomas -- http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2qu

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-16 Thread Bret Hughes
On Wed, 2002-01-16 at 23:06, David Talkington wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Bret Hughes wrote: > > >> >vi. > >> > >> That's for old timers. These days, people want more than an old text > >> editor like vi. That's why I switched to vim ;-) > > > >I gave up o

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-16 Thread Devon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 17 January 2002 12:06 am, David Talkington wrote: > Bret Hughes wrote: > >> >vi. > >> > >> That's for old timers. These days, people want more than an old text > >> editor like vi. That's why I switched to vim ;-) > > > >I gave up on the

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-16 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bret Hughes wrote: >> >vi. >> >> That's for old timers. These days, people want more than an old text >> editor like vi. That's why I switched to vim ;-) > >I gave up on the old text based stuff now that I user real machines. I >use gvim --reverse

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-16 Thread Bret Hughes
On Wed, 2002-01-16 at 18:40, Anthony E. Greene wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, David Talkington wrote: > >Chris Montgomery wrote: > > > >>Dumb newbie question, but what do people use in place of linuxconf? This > >>isn't installed, by default, for my RH7.1 system. > > > >vi. > > That's for old time

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-16 Thread Jacques Gelinas
> I hasten to add that one genuinely good use for front ends like that > is to watch what they do to the actual configuration files, and learn > from it. (Learning to configure fetchmail is a whole lot easier when > you see how fetchmailconf builds a .fetchmailrc, for instance.) I just > don't thi

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-16 Thread Chuck Mead
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Edward Dekkers posted the following: ED>Sorry for this bit of ramble, but my opinion is that just because it's not ED>hard core or 'the way it was done' doesn't mean it shouldn't be done like ED>that. I really do think it IS all

RE: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-16 Thread Robert Finneran
OTECTED] Subject: Re: Linuxconf Substitute? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Edward Dekkers wrote: >Imagine all the newbie questions dissappearing off this list for starters >about where things are. And imagine all the other newbie questions appearing from guys who have no idea

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-16 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Edward Dekkers wrote: >Imagine all the newbie questions dissappearing off this list for starters >about where things are. And imagine all the other newbie questions appearing from guys who have no idea how to fix things when the GUI falls down or i

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-16 Thread Edward Dekkers
> Indeed. The point we, the smartasses, were making is that Linuxconf > is a good idea that just happens to be a bad idea. With all due > respect to its author, who undertook an incredibly ambitious task, > it's just too flaky in practice. Further -- and though I freely admit > that this is a p

RE: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-16 Thread Robert Finneran
I thought you guy's banter was rather amusing. You need a good sense of humor in this business! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Talkington Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linu

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-16 Thread Monte Milanuk
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 17:09:53 -0600 Chris Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess I should have asked if there is another option that runs under x > windows. Remember, newbie here. :) > Webmin seems to be a popular choice. Runs its own little webserver, has the potential for using secur

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-16 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ABrady wrote: >> Dumb newbie question, but what do people use in place of linuxconf? >> This isn't installed, by default, for my RH7.1 system. > >Commandline. Linuxconf is available in 7.1. But, it's still dangerous to >some config files and permissi

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-16 Thread ABrady
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:10:08 -0600 Chris Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> implied: > Dumb newbie question, but what do people use in place of linuxconf? > This isn't installed, by default, for my RH7.1 system. Commandline. Linuxconf is available in 7.1. But, it's still dangerous to some config fil

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-16 Thread Anthony E. Greene
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, David Talkington wrote: >Chris Montgomery wrote: > >>Dumb newbie question, but what do people use in place of linuxconf? This >>isn't installed, by default, for my RH7.1 system. > >vi. That's for old timers. These days, people want more than an old text editor like vi. That's

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-16 Thread Mike Watson
Webmin. You can get it at http://www.webmin.com mw Chris Montgomery wrote: > > Dumb newbie question, but what do people use in place of linuxconf? This > isn't installed, by default, for my RH7.1 system. > > TIA, > > Chris > > ___ > Redhat-list ma

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-16 Thread JW
At 03:18 PM 1/16/2002 -0800, you wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >Chris Montgomery wrote: > >>I guess I should have asked if there is another option that runs under x >>windows. Remember, newbie here. :) > >gvim. > >- -d > >[waits for the other shoe to drop] > > Hey, no n

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-16 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Montgomery wrote: >I guess I should have asked if there is another option that runs under x >windows. Remember, newbie here. :) gvim. - -d [waits for the other shoe to drop] - -- David Talkington PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dta

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-16 Thread Chris Montgomery
I guess I should have asked if there is another option that runs under x windows. Remember, newbie here. :) Chris ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-16 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuck Mead wrote: >On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, David Talkington posted the following: > >DT>BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >DT>Hash: SHA1 >DT> >DT>Chris Montgomery wrote: >DT> >DT>>Dumb newbie question, but what do people use in place of linuxconf? This

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-16 Thread Chuck Mead
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, David Talkington posted the following: DT>BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- DT>Hash: SHA1 DT> DT>Chris Montgomery wrote: DT> DT>>Dumb newbie question, but what do people use in place of linuxconf? This DT>>isn't installed, by def

Re: Linuxconf Substitute?

2002-01-16 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Montgomery wrote: >Dumb newbie question, but what do people use in place of linuxconf? This >isn't installed, by default, for my RH7.1 system. vi. - -d - -- David Talkington PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/0xCA4C11AD.pgp - -- htt