Re: RPM dependency hell

> On Tuesday 14 January 2003 08:56 pm, Michael Fratoni wrote: > > > > whichcd is not part of the distribution, it's available at > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/whichcd/ > > To comply with truth in advertising rules > > It also happens to be my package. ;) What a great package. Thank you

Re: RPM dependency hell

On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 06:58:39AM -0800, j_post wrote: > > I'm still trying to find the correct rpm for RH7.2. Can't find it on > rpmfind.net and Google hasn't yet dug up what I need. If you should happen to > find a URL with the right stuff, please let me know. The best spot to get apt is pro

Re: RPM dependency hell

On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 14:17, Ryan Babchishin wrote: > > RPM stands for RedHat Package Manager. An rpm file is an archive of > files, sometimes binary or sometimes source code. The rpm file contains > all steps required to install, upgrade, uninstall or compile the package > on your system. It a

Re: RPM dependency hell

Michael (Contractor) wrote: What is mean't by RPM... Don't laugh.. i am new to Linux -Original Message- From: j_post [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RPM dependency hell On Wednesday 15 January 2003 05:36

RE: RPM dependency hell

What is mean't by RPM... Don't laugh.. i am new to Linux -Original Message- From: j_post [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RPM dependency hell On Wednesday 15 January 2003 05:36 am, Johnathan Bailes wrot

Re: RPM dependency hell

On Wednesday 15 January 2003 05:36 am, Johnathan Bailes wrote: > > The previous post from a previous person mentioned getting the correct > rpm for your platform. > However, find the right rpms and you will have a very nice > package management tool. > I'm still trying to find the correct rpm for

Re: RPM dependency hell

On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 18:34, j_post wrote: > On Tuesday 14 January 2003 11:45 am, Jonathan Bailes wrote: > > > > Ok, Solution for most dependency hell issues. Everyone listen up. It > > is called apt and it has a nice gui frontend called synaptic. > > > Uh-huh. Wanna take a wild guess as to what

Re: RPM dependency hell

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 15 January 2003 12:10 am, j_post wrote: > On Tuesday 14 January 2003 08:38 pm, you wrote: > > I think you will find you DO have libc.so.6. It is rather > > fundamental. It is a symbolic link provided the glibc package. > > Yep. It's a link

RE: RPM dependency hell

Edward Dekkers wrote on Wednesday, 15 January 2003 10:54: >> For local RPM collections, RH8 has the Red Hat package manager. It's >> still a bit limited, but I believe they are working to make it >> better and more flexible. We'll see. But this is not the issue >> tha

Re: RPM dependency hell

On Tuesday 14 January 2003 08:56 pm, Michael wrote: > > If you're having a dependency problem with libc.so.6, then installing a > new package is the least of your problems > On an up2date 7.2 machine, I get: > # rpm -qf /lib/libc.so.6 > glibc-2.2.4-31 > I get: glibc-2.2.4-13 Somehow I don't t

Re: RPM dependency hell

On Tuesday 14 January 2003 08:56 pm, Michael Fratoni wrote: > > whichcd is not part of the distribution, it's available at > http://sourceforge.net/projects/whichcd/ > To comply with truth in advertising rules > It also happens to be my package. ;) Excellent. Thanks very much. jp -- redha

Re: RPM dependency hell

On Tuesday 14 January 2003 08:38 pm, you wrote: > > I think you will find you DO have libc.so.6. It is rather fundamental. > It is a symbolic link provided the glibc package. Yep. It's a link in /lib to /lib/libc-2.2.4.so. So why does rpm gripe that it can't find it? And is this what it should li

Re: RPM dependency hell

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 14 January 2003 10:59 pm, j_post wrote: > On Tuesday 14 January 2003 06:10 pm, you wrote: > > $ rpm -q --redhatprovides WindowMaker-libs > > WindowMaker-libs-0.80.1-1 > > $ rpm -q --redhatprovides librpm-4.0.4.so > > librpm404-4.0.4-8x.27 >

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On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 20:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > j_post wrote on Wednesday, 15 January 2003 > 13:59: > > > "whichcd" must be something new--I don't have it in RH7.2. I did find > > WindowMaker and librpm404 on the 8.0 CDs, but once again, we run into > > the seemi

RE: RPM dependency hell

j_post wrote on Wednesday, 15 January 2003 13:59: > On Tuesday 14 January 2003 06:10 pm, you wrote: >> >> $ rpm -q --redhatprovides WindowMaker-libs >> WindowMaker-libs-0.80.1-1 >> $ rpm -q --redhatprovides librpm-4.0.4.so >> librpm404-4.0.4-8x.27 >> >> $ whichcd -v 8.

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On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 20:20, Gordon Messmer wrote: > And then get 'apt' for 7.3. Ack... just woke up. I meant "get apt for 7.3 here": http://valhalla.freshrpms.net/rpm.html?id=483 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/

Re: RPM dependency hell

On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 18:08, j_post wrote: > On Tuesday 14 January 2003 03:56 pm, you wrote: > > > Uh-huh. Wanna take a wild guess as to what happens when I try to install > > > the rpm's for either apt or synaptic? > > > > Get the ones that were compiled for your platform. RPM's API keeps > > cha

Re: RPM dependency hell

On Tuesday 14 January 2003 06:10 pm, you wrote: > > $ rpm -q --redhatprovides WindowMaker-libs > WindowMaker-libs-0.80.1-1 > $ rpm -q --redhatprovides librpm-4.0.4.so > librpm404-4.0.4-8x.27 > > $ whichcd -v 8.0 librpm windowmaker-libs Thanks Michael. "whichcd" must be something new--I don't have

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> Know where I can find such a beast? The only synaptic rpm's I found were > through rpmfind.net and they don't show one for RH7.2. Me too. I tried the 7.3 ones. APT installs fine, Synaptic complains about libdb. RPMFind.net doesn't tell me where that comes from, and rpm -q --whatprovides doesn't

Re: RPM dependency hell

On Tuesday 14 January 2003 03:56 pm, you wrote: > > Uh-huh. Wanna take a wild guess as to what happens when I try to install > > the rpm's for either apt or synaptic? > > Get the ones that were compiled for your platform. RPM's API keeps > changing, and so does the library's soname. Know where I

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 14 January 2003 08:43 pm, j_post wrote: > On Tuesday 14 January 2003 04:17 pm, Emmanuel wrote: > > The only dependency for apt is on gnupg. > > If you cannot handle that, I would suggest you go back to using > > Windows. > > Oops. My bad. ap

Re: RPM dependency hell

On Tuesday 14 January 2003 04:17 pm, Emmanuel wrote: > > The only dependency for apt is on gnupg. > If you cannot handle that, I would suggest you go back to using Windows. > Oops. My bad. apt did install--it's synaptic that has a problem: error: failed dependencies: WindowMaker-libs is n

Re: RPM dependency hell

> For local RPM collections, RH8 has the Red Hat package manager. It's > still a bit limited, but I believe they are working to make it better and > more flexible. We'll see. But this is not the issue that is preventing > RHL from taking over the world, and it's not so easy to fix that someone >

Re: RPM dependency hell

May I humbly suggest that this is an unfortunate statement/attitude.. If Linux is to succeed at the corporate/business level it must be perceived as "easier" than windows. Being "cheap" does not cut it if you have to hire a team of "experts" to just get up and running, update programs or such..

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On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 03:34:30PM -0800, j_post wrote: > > Uh-huh. Wanna take a wild guess as to what happens when I try to install the > rpm's for either apt or synaptic? The only dependency for apt is on gnupg. If you cannot handle that, I would suggest you go back to using Windows. Emmanuel

Re: RPM dependency hell

On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 15:34, j_post wrote: > On Tuesday 14 January 2003 11:45 am, Jonathan Bailes wrote: > > > > Ok, Solution for most dependency hell issues. Everyone listen up. It > > is called apt and it has a nice gui frontend called synaptic. > > > Uh-huh. Wanna take a wild guess as to what

Re: RPM dependency hell

On Tuesday 14 January 2003 11:45 am, Jonathan Bailes wrote: > > Ok, Solution for most dependency hell issues. Everyone listen up. It > is called apt and it has a nice gui frontend called synaptic. > Uh-huh. Wanna take a wild guess as to what happens when I try to install the rpm's for either apt

RE: RPM dependency hell

On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Larry Brown wrote: > > > >For local RPM collections, RH8 has the Red Hat package manager. It's > >still a bit limited, but I believe they are working to make it better and > >more flexible. We'll see. But this is not the issue that is preventing > >RHL from taking over the

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on rpm > aren't we? > > > Larry S. Brown > Dimension Networks, Inc. > (727) 723-8388 > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Mike Burger > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 12:48 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

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RE: RPM dependency hell

On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 13:37, Larry Brown wrote: > >For local RPM collections, RH8 has the Red Hat package manager. It's > >still a bit limited, but I believe they are working to make it better and > >more flexible. We'll see. But this is not the issue that is preventing > >RHL from taking over t

RE: RPM dependency hell

On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Larry Brown wrote: > >For local RPM collections, RH8 has the Red Hat package manager. It's > >still a bit limited, but I believe they are working to make it better and > >more flexible. We'll see. But this is not the issue that is preventing > >RHL from taking over the worl

RE: RPM dependency hell

>For local RPM collections, RH8 has the Red Hat package manager. It's >still a bit limited, but I believe they are working to make it better and >more flexible. We'll see. But this is not the issue that is preventing >RHL from taking over the world, and it's not so easy to fix that someone >el

RE: RPM dependency hell

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RPM dependency hell Red Hat listened...it's called "up2date"...it takes care of downloading/installing the dependencies for you. On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, j_post wrote: > I'm getting really tired of Red Hat's RPM nonsense. I can't upgra

Re: RPM dependency hell

Red Hat listened...it's called "up2date"...it takes care of downloading/installing the dependencies for you. On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, j_post wrote: > I'm getting really tired of Red Hat's RPM nonsense. I can't upgrade > *anything* because rpm complains about dependencies. I can understand that a >

Re: RPM dependency hell

R P Herrold wrote: On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Jan wrote: However - what I think most of us would like is a simple service that gives us the FULL dependency list, not just the first level. A list like that can of only be generated if you already have all the necessary libraries - the developer(s) o

Re: RPM dependency hell

On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Jan wrote: > However - what I think most of us would like is a simple service that > gives us the FULL dependency list, not just the first level. A list like > that can of only be generated if you already have all the necessary > libraries - the developer(s) of the given RP

RE: RPM dependency hell

On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Larry Brown wrote: > I know that RedHat must get sufficient flack about the problems associated > with rpms; however, I feel I must put my 2 cents in as well. This is the > worst aspect of the OS. This is what really hinders RHL from taking over > the world. I am a very pat

Re: RPM dependency hell

On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, j_post wrote: > Ack, no. I have two machines running RH7.2 and upgraded the non-critical > machine to RH8.0--it broke a lot of things. Critical projects don't compile > with gcc3.2, screensavers (trivial) and other stuff (non-trivial) won't work > anymore. I can't risk brea

Re: RPM dependency hell

Ed Wilts wrote: [...] It's not an rpm issue - it's an issue for those who wrote the dependencies within the package. When I was running a Mandrake release a couple of years back, I installed multiple versions of libraries - their rpms allowed this. Note, however, that many packages have strict r

Re: RPM dependency hell

On Tuesday 14 January 2003 04:13 am, you wrote: > > If you don't want to care about dependencies between each rpms, it is > better for you to upgrade to RHL8.0 ,and using 'package manager' in gnome. > Ack, no. I have two machines running RH7.2 and upgraded the non-critical machine to RH8.0--it br

Re: RPM dependency hell

On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 09:55:48PM -0800, j_post wrote: > On Monday 13 January 2003 09:00 pm, you wrote: > > > > A major revision of a libray might involve revisions to the API > > (such as changes to function parameters, or contents of > > data structures) and > > so anything built with libabc-1 m

RE: RPM dependency hell

Have you tried apt? http://freshrpms.net/apt/ dhardison -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Larry Brown Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RPM dependency hell I know that RedHat must get sufficient

RE: RPM dependency hell

2003 12:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RPM dependency hell j_post <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Tuesday, 14 January 2003 14:46: > I'm getting really tired of Red Hat's RPM nonsense. I can't upgrade > *anything* because rpm complains about dependencies. I

Re: RPM dependency hell

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:34:21 -0800 (PST), Jeff Lacki wrote: > I was trying to setup firestarter on my system (7.3) > and its complaining about dependencies. When I tried > to figure out where to find the RPM dependencies, > I found that the man page

Re: RPM dependency hell

From: j_post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'm getting really tired of Red Hat's RPM nonsense. I can't upgrade > *anything* because rpm complains about dependencies. I can understand that a > new version of program 'xyz' may need library 'libabc-2.3.so', but rpm > refuses to upgrade because program 'abc

Re: RPM dependency hell

On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 20:46, j_post wrote: > I'm getting really tired of Red Hat's RPM nonsense. I can't upgrade > *anything* because rpm complains about dependencies. RPM really does know what the programs need. > I can understand that a > new version of program 'xyz' may need library 'libabc-

Re: RPM dependency hell

On Monday 13 January 2003 11:11 pm, you wrote: > Unless I am mis-understanding what you are trying to do, the option you > want is --nodeps, not --force. This installs the RPM package without > checking dependencies. Yeah, I tried --nodeps with CUPS and my printer stopped working. Had to "rpm -e

Re: RPM dependency hell

Unless I am mis-understanding what you are trying to do, the option you want is --nodeps, not --force. This installs the RPM package without checking dependencies. However, BE CAREFUL. I understand that package dependencies can be a pain, but it is a necessary evil, and can really save your

Re: RPM dependency hell

I agree about the frustration over the RPM stuff. Im not as saavy about it, but you would think that redhat could somehow come up with something that might be used as a tool to do a lot of work for you behind the scenes, even if it had to ask you questions along the way. I was trying to setup fire

Re: RPM dependency hell

On Monday 13 January 2003 09:00 pm, you wrote: > > A major revision of a libray might involve revisions to the API > (such as changes to function parameters, or contents of > data structures) and > so anything built with libabc-1 might crash with libabc-2. > You often need to install both. > Unders

RE: RPM dependency hell

j_post wrote on Tuesday, 14 January 2003 14:46: > I'm getting really tired of Red Hat's RPM nonsense. I can't upgrade > *anything* because rpm complains about dependencies. I can understand > that a new version of program 'xyz' may need library > 'libabc-2.3.so', but rpm