Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-14 Thread Joe Giles
Just a note to everyone... I finally got it all downloaded and running. I installed it 2 times. Here is what I found out... If you install the default Desktop or workstation and opt to not install any additional packages, you might be screwed. The first time I installed 8.0, I left everything de

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-14 Thread Reuben D. Budiardja
Hello all, Well, this is my take on RH 8.0. Over the week end I tried to help a friend installing RH. The person never used linux before (only Mac and Win), and so I thought RH 8.0 would be perfect. it's also my first time installing RH 8.0. The installation went fine and really smooth. Then a

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-11 Thread Gary Stainburn
On Thursday 10 Oct 2002 7:40 pm, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 14:25, Scott Bower wrote: > > Gordon Messmer wrote: > > >Given the wide range and sporadic nature of the problems you've had, I'd > > >say you were awful quick to stop considering hardware trouble. > > > > Well, I had n

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-10 Thread Bret Hughes
On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 13:40, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 14:25, Scott Bower wrote: > > > > Gordon Messmer wrote: > > >Given the wide range and sporadic nature of the problems you've had, I'd > > >say you were awful quick to stop considering hardware trouble. > > > > > Well, I ha

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 14:39, Scott Bower wrote: > ext3 is directly related to ext2 in specs albeit with journalling > added... ext2 supports 2Gig files at best. That's no longer true: /usr/src/linux-2.4/Documentation/filesystems/ext2.txt It's a bit out of date, but you can read it if you have k

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 14:25, Scott Bower wrote: > > Gordon Messmer wrote: > >Given the wide range and sporadic nature of the problems you've had, I'd > >say you were awful quick to stop considering hardware trouble. > > > Well, I had no problems with this system for six months prior, the ... >

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-09 Thread Scott Bower
ext3 is directly related to ext2 in specs albeit with journalling added... ext2 supports 2Gig files at best. Gordon Messmer wrote: >On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 14:25, David Kramer wrote: > > >>On Wednesday 09 October 2002 04:09 pm, Gordon Messmer wrote: >> >> >>>On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 18:21, Sco

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think... (Off Topic)

2002-10-09 Thread Scott Bower
Ahh, that's okay, Mexicans always make these mistakes... Gordon's right though, this expression is originally Brittish, I got it from a joke I heard when I was about ten, it goes: An RSM was conducting a Commando course on Self Defence, he wanted to get his men to think under the pressure of h

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-09 Thread Scott Bower
Gordon Messmer wrote: >On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 18:21, Scott Bower wrote: > > >>My biggest rush to >>deployment was as a result of a major drive faltering and the fact that >>RH8.0 contained JFS which would allow dirty great archives... >> >> > >What's a dirty great archive? > > > >>not

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-09 Thread Joe Giles
Lord, the original poster was an Australian. We may hear a comment about him using "British"! . Actually, I'm Italian :-P -- Joe Giles [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL: mcigiles --- Registered Linux User #264910 http://counter.li.org --- Gerry Doris said: > On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, David Kramer wrot

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-09 Thread Gerry Doris
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, David Kramer wrote: > On Wednesday 09 October 2002 04:09 pm, Gordon Messmer wrote: > > On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 18:21, Scott Bower wrote: > > > My biggest rush to > > > deployment was as a result of a major drive faltering and the fact that > > > RH8.0 contained JFS which would a

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-09 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 14:25, David Kramer wrote: > On Wednesday 09 October 2002 04:09 pm, Gordon Messmer wrote: > > On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 18:21, Scott Bower wrote: > > > My biggest rush to > > > deployment was as a result of a major drive faltering and the fact that > > > RH8.0 contained JFS which

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-09 Thread David Kramer
On Wednesday 09 October 2002 04:09 pm, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 18:21, Scott Bower wrote: > > My biggest rush to > > deployment was as a result of a major drive faltering and the fact that > > RH8.0 contained JFS which would allow dirty great archives... > > What's a dirty gre

RE: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-09 Thread Bryan Liles
Metcalf > Network Administrator > Southeastern College > Phone: 863.667.5169 > Fax: 863.667.5200 > > -Original Message- > From: Redhat Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 9:05 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: RH 8.0 Wha

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-09 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 18:21, Scott Bower wrote: > > My biggest rush to > deployment was as a result of a major drive faltering and the fact that > RH8.0 contained JFS which would allow dirty great archives... What's a dirty great archive? > not working and other things segfaulting preventing

RE: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-09 Thread Joshua P. Metcalf
se to see the pretty front end.. Joshua Metcalf Network Administrator Southeastern College Phone: 863.667.5169 Fax: 863.667.5200 -Original Message- From: Redhat Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 9:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RH 8.0 What d

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-09 Thread Redhat Simon
First things first it is an 8.0 release. therefore much technology in it is new. Second Never upgrade anything and expect it to work, it is just torture. Backup and wipe the disk. OS's are very complex beasts and this is a next generation .0 release. It has loads of new stuff. The most reli

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-09 Thread loophole
i'd stick with 7.3 if i were u. 8.0 looks good - new grafx, new apps - good in the eyes. __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-09 Thread Christensen Tom
cott Bower <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: RH 8.0 What do you think... >Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 18:21:41 -0700 > >What do I Think?! > >Let me say, I was banking on a better job. I use RedHat at home and at work &g

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-09 Thread Scott Bower
What do I Think?! Let me say, I was banking on a better job. I use RedHat at home and at work and in both cases had (and am still having) major problems. At home I run a hobby ISP and the implementation of 8.0 I admit wasn't well thought out or exactly planned beforehand let alone trialled b

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-07 Thread Keith Winston
On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 10:59, Jack Bowling wrote: > ** Reply to message from Keith Winston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 07 Oct > 2002 06:42:34 -0400 > > > > The java plugin is working for you in mozilla? > > > > I downloaded the latest J2RE from the sun web site (1.4.1) and it > > installed fine,

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...(Java Plugin)

2002-10-07 Thread Keith Winston
On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 08:20, Michael Fratoni wrote: > > The java plugin is working for you in mozilla? > No problem at all. I just went to the page you mentioned above and tried > several of the applets. To install the java plugin, here are the steps I > used. > > o downloaded the j2re-1_4_1-

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-07 Thread Jack Bowling
** Reply to message from Keith Winston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 07 Oct 2002 06:42:34 -0400 > The java plugin is working for you in mozilla? > > I downloaded the latest J2RE from the sun web site (1.4.1) and it > installed fine, including the plugin. However, if I go to any page with > java

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...(Java Plugin)

2002-10-07 Thread Michael Fratoni
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 07 October 2002 06:42 am, Keith Winston wrote: > > Although I haven't done extensive testing, I had no problem with the > > sun j2re plugin, the flash plugin, and the realplayer plugin with the > > included Mozilla. All appear to work as ex

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-07 Thread John Horne
On 06-Oct-2002 at 00:10:57 Joe Giles wrote: > This might not be the most appropriate spot for this kind of question, and > I will gladly apologize if someone doesn't like it, but I would like to > know what you all think about the new Red Hat 8.0. I am downloading the > 4th CD now and I was going

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-07 Thread Timothy Lee Young
I had problems with Java 1.4.1 acting a little strange with applets; so I tried an earlier version, 1.3.0, and all is working well now. If that helps you any. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redh

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-07 Thread Keith Winston
On Sun, 2002-10-06 at 10:36, Michael Fratoni wrote: > > Everything is compiled is gcc 3.2. I guess you have to upgrade some > > time, but the java plug-ins won't work in mozilla and many other > > plug-ins that were compiled with gcc 2.9x. Binary compatability with > > C++ programs and libs tha

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-06 Thread Joe Giles
I agree. I installed it in VMWare and it looks pretty good. Still looking around, but first impressions are good... Thanks -- Joe Giles [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL: mcigiles Edward Dekkers said: >> Again, if the moderators (or anyone else) does not like me to request >> this information on this list,

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-06 Thread Tom Eastep
Keith Winston wrote: > On Sat, 2002-10-05 at 20:10, Joe Giles wrote: >> >>Anyway, what do you think; do you like it, or would you wait for the next >>release (or any fixes)? > > > There are big improvements I see in 8.0, but some things that that might > bite you also. Along that line, here is

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-06 Thread Michael Fratoni
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 06 October 2002 10:05 am, Keith Winston wrote: > Bad: > > Everything is compiled is gcc 3.2. I guess you have to upgrade some > time, but the java plug-ins won't work in mozilla and many other > plug-ins that were compiled with gcc 2.9x.

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-06 Thread Keith Winston
On Sat, 2002-10-05 at 20:10, Joe Giles wrote: > This might not be the most appropriate spot for this kind of question, and > I will gladly apologize if someone doesn't like it, but I would like to > know what you all think about the new Red Hat 8.0. I am downloading the > 4th CD now and I was goin

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-06 Thread Edward Dekkers
> Again, if the moderators (or anyone else) does not like me to request this > information on this list, let me know and I will post elseware... Joe, I've been on this list since RH5.2 and EVERY TIME a new release comes out there's problems and questions. And almost every time somebody asks 'Sho

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-05 Thread Gerry Doris
On 6 Oct 2002, Jonathan Gaudette wrote: > Geforce2 64meg > > -Jon > > On Sun, 2002-10-06 at 01:41, Gerry Doris wrote: > > On 5 Oct 2002, Jonathan Gaudette wrote: > > > > > Unfortunately I haven't gotten into WINE yet (although it is installed), > > > nor VMWare. I tried installing Unreal Tour

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-05 Thread Jonathan Gaudette
Geforce2 64meg -Jon On Sun, 2002-10-06 at 01:41, Gerry Doris wrote: > On 5 Oct 2002, Jonathan Gaudette wrote: > > > Unfortunately I haven't gotten into WINE yet (although it is installed), > > nor VMWare. I tried installing Unreal Tournament 2003 earlier, but get > > the following error messag

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-05 Thread Gerry Doris
On 5 Oct 2002, Jonathan Gaudette wrote: > Unfortunately I haven't gotten into WINE yet (although it is installed), > nor VMWare. I tried installing Unreal Tournament 2003 earlier, but get > the following error message and don't know what to do. I did a complete > Red Hat 8 installation, install

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-05 Thread Michael Fratoni
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 05 October 2002 09:34 pm, Jack Bowling wrote: > ** Reply to message from Joe Giles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sat, 05 Oct > 2002 18:10:57 -0600 (MDT) > > > This might not be the most appropriate spot for this kind of > > question, and I will g

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-05 Thread Jonathan Gaudette
I have a Geforce2 64meg card. I went to Nvidia and downloaded the updaters drivers/kernel and installed them and restarted. When Linux restarted I got a fatal error on X, saying it can't start. I tried reconfiguring it but that didn't work, so I uninstalled the rpm driver/kernel and restarted a

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-05 Thread Joe Giles
Probobly has to do with your video drivers. You might want to look at the web site for your video card and see if they have Linux drivers. The Game requires OpenGL. GLX is the OpenGL for X driver. If you have a Geforce or an older TNT card, you can go to www.nvidia.com and get the driver for Linux

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-05 Thread Jonathan Gaudette
Unfortunately I haven't gotten into WINE yet (although it is installed), nor VMWare. I tried installing Unreal Tournament 2003 earlier, but get the following error message and don't know what to do. I did a complete Red Hat 8 installation, installing everything Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-05 Thread Joe Giles
Once I get my Joystick driver installed (which is another thread >:-O) I think I can whack windows from my PC at home. Most of the games I play are either playable using WINE or native to Linux. Allot more games are now being written for Linux (Unreal Tournament 2003 is a one and Return To Castle

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-05 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On 5 Oct 2002, Jonathan Gaudette wrote: > Overall though, I'm impressed with Red Hat 8.0. So impressed, I have > officially switched my main workstation (dual 1.6ghz AMD) to it. I now > only use Windows to rip DVD's (I haven't gotten around to getting a > Linux program for that yet) and play ga

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-05 Thread Joe Giles
Sweet. Usually I don't upgrade a server unless there is a REALLY good reason to, so the server features like apache and the like are not that important right now. Good information. I am finishing up the 5th disk now and I think I will install it in VMWare for a quick test... Thanks, and keep the

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-05 Thread Jack Bowling
** Reply to message from Joe Giles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sat, 05 Oct 2002 18:10:57 -0600 (MDT) > This might not be the most appropriate spot for this kind of question, and > I will gladly apologize if someone doesn't like it, but I would like to > know what you all think about the new Red Hat 8

Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-05 Thread Jonathan Gaudette
My opinion on Red Hat 8 is a good one. I modified their bluecurve theme so that it was to my liking, but overall I like it. I don't see what all the fuss was about with it. I mean, it's just a theme (from what I notice) and it's just as easy to take it off to the traditional KDE theme. Overall

RH 8.0.... What do you think...

2002-10-05 Thread Joe Giles
This might not be the most appropriate spot for this kind of question, and I will gladly apologize if someone doesn't like it, but I would like to know what you all think about the new Red Hat 8.0. I am downloading the 4th CD now and I was going to install it, but in light of e-mails this last wee