Here is a NY Times letter to the editor from Mark Rienzi about the Little
Sisters of the Poor and the form that the Court thus far has excused them from
having to sign, taking issue with a Linda Greenhouse column:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/14/opinion/abortion-and-contraception-cases-before-
ace and peace to you,
Derek
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Professor Sisk’s post epitomizes many of the inacc
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The question is not about access to health care or to contraception. No one
proposes to ban contraception or withdraw it from the market. Access to
contraception for those who
tizens to crippling
fines for seeking to live their lives in accord with their faith?
Grace and peace to you,
Derek
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The question is not about access to health care or to contraception. No one
proposes to ban contraception or withdraw it from the market. Access to
contraception for those who cannot afford it is already widely available
through both government and private efforts. Government subsidizes
cont
Greg Sisk's post quite stunningly asks for mutual respect for the
contending concerns in the contraceptive mandate cases, and then (just as
Greg Lipper wrote) minimizes the concern for women's health and well-being
that explains the contraceptive mandate. The safest and most effective
contraceptio
Lipper
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Professor Sisk's post epitomizes many of the inaccurate assumptions that led to
the enactment of the wom
Professor Sisk’s post epitomizes many of the inaccurate assumptions that led to
the enactment of the women’s health provisions in the first place. Let me try
to address a few of the most important points:
1. The distinction between “medically-indicated” (non-contraceptive) uses of
contraception
With all respect, I think I disagree strongly with Gregory Sisk's email
below. I am amazed at how accommodating this country is of minority
religious groups. To be sure, sometimes the religious lobby loses to other
lobbies, but it wins often enough that it is evident that minority
religious groups
Derek Gaubatz’s post concludes with a point that is too often lost in the sound
and fury about the imposition of the abortificient/contraception mandate on
employers of faith – which is that the mandate is dubious public policy (even
on its own terms) and this dispute could have been avoided but
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I may have more to say on this point later, but for now this'll have to suffice:
First, Doug may be correct that there is no doubt abou
I take it that depends on what we mean by "not uncommon." A family of 15
children in mid-century America was a remarkable phenomenon, I can say from
experience. Not sure in what sense the Catholic Church was part of the
government when Ireland was for so long under the tyrannical British (not
Cat
Somebody had a column in Slate about how American businesses did not file
amicus briefs supporting Hobby Lobby and Conestoga Wood. He seemed to think
this somehow cut against them.
What it shows is that most businesses think they have no stake in this
litigation. They don't see any religious cl
I don't know how the argument about family size connects to the legal issues,
but for the record:
Marci's ten to twenty number is based on what demographers call "natural
fertility." That's where a couple makes no effort whatever to limit conception.
The phrase comes from my demographer wife, w
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Two points of clarification that I think may be helpful:
1) One of
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Is Doug correct as a l
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Let me add in response to Marci tha
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Does anyone know whether the trustees of Notre Dame perhaps interpreted Pope
Benedict's remarks in his meeting with them in Rome on Jan. 31 as being a
reference
Re Marci's assertion that the slippery slope is "perpendicular" if for profit
corporations are recognized to be protected under RFRA, it seems to me that we
don't have to just rely on the rhetorical speculation of Marci and the Obama
administration in its brief. Instead, we have, as Marty has he
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There is a huge difference between the Church's teaching on contraception
(which is clear), and its views on the permissibility of participating in an
ins
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Is Doug correct as a legal matter that the bishops speak for Notre Dame, as
opposed to its offic
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Two points of clarification that I think may be helpful:
1) One of the most important consequences of the HHS mandate is that a far
greater number of Catholics now have a better idea of what the Church's
teaching is on contraception and other life issues than they did before,
which makes the impos
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"In a liberal and tolerant society, I would also suggest that, absent some
particularly compelling circumstances, the government should not burden either
law professor by making them take the action they believe would render them
morally culpable for someone else's wrongdoing."
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