Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed

2004-10-29 Thread Joe
$750 may not be a bad price for a very good set of duplexers tuned to your frequency. I suggest that you post all the information that you have about the duplexer, (ie manufacturer, model #, age, condition, what freq. they are going to be used on ,etc ), here to the list. We can then give you an

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: maggiore's service

2004-10-29 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Everyone else has more sense. -- Original Message -- Received: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 03:57:15 PM CDT From: "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > That's OK. The subject has to come up once every 30-60 days or Russ > > would loose his retainer as official Maggiore drumbeater ;> > > there sure would

Re: [Repeater-Builder] maggiore's service

2004-10-29 Thread Chris Peterson
- Original Message - From: "russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] maggiore's service > > As you speak it says a lot about you. > > 73 Russ, > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] maggiore's service

2004-10-29 Thread russ
As you speak it says a lot about you. 73 Russ, - Original Message - From: "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] maggiore's service > > russ wrote: > > > Hello All, > > The Kenwood is cheaper. > > But the Maggiore wo

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-740 versus TKR-750 (Was: Maggiore's Service)

2004-10-29 Thread Neil McKie
This is true, Neil McKie - WA6KLA Fred Seamans wrote: > > To Jim & et all: > Actually there is a reason that Motorola and GE (now M/A-COM ) used a > reverse CTCSS tone burst. The Hi-Q solid state tone detectors that are used > by these manufactures have a ring down time delay, the same a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-740 versus TKR-750 (Was: Maggiore's Service)

2004-10-29 Thread Fred Seamans
To Jim & et all: Actually there is a reason that Motorola and GE (now M/A-COM ) used a reverse CTCSS tone burst. The Hi-Q solid state tone detectors that are used by these manufactures have a ring down time delay, the same as trying to stop a mechanical reed after removal of the driving tone. The

Re: [Repeater-Builder] maggiore's service

2004-10-29 Thread Neil McKie
I wouldn't know what one looks like - fortunately. Neil "Jim B." wrote: > > russ wrote: > > > Hello All, > > The Kenwood is cheaper. > > But the Maggiore works better. > > So I go with what works. > > I like all my Kenwoods on GMRS > > but I really like my Maggiores on Ham. > > 73 Russ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: maggiore's service

2004-10-29 Thread Neil McKie
That was cheerleading? Neil nj902 wrote: > > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Grantham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > "...I will apologize for making a post which opened the floodgates > of Maggiore cheerleading. .." > __ >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed

2004-10-29 Thread Cecil Ferguson
No, the rods are full length, in fact they will bottom out.  With the caps or inductors removed they simply will not tune down to the ham frequency.  With the caps in place, we can get to the upper ham band.  No soap for the others.  It is uncertain where they came from, have been stored in o

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: maggiore's service

2004-10-29 Thread Jim B.
nj902 wrote: > > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Grantham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > "...I will apologize for making a post which opened the floodgates of > Maggiore cheerleading. .." > __ > __ > > That's O

Re: [Repeater-Builder] maggiore's service

2004-10-29 Thread Jim B.
russ wrote: > Hello All, > The Kenwood is cheaper. > But the Maggiore works better. > So I go with what works. > I like all my Kenwoods on GMRS > but I really like my Maggiores on Ham. > 73 Russ, W3CH > it boggles the mind... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL (wouldn't touch a maggiore with a 10' pole)

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-750 & TKR-850

2004-10-29 Thread russ
You can by a service Manuel for it from your Kenwood dealer. I can give you the contact info for Kenwood if you would like. Please contact me direct. [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you need info I would be glad to look it up for you. Yes the e-1 is because it is not programmed. very best of 73 Russ, W3CH

Re: [Repeater-Builder] maggiore's service

2004-10-29 Thread russ
Hello All, The Kenwood is cheaper. But the Maggiore works better. So I go with what works. I like all my Kenwoods on GMRS but I really like my Maggiores on Ham. 73 Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:36 PM Subject: Re:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: maggiore's service

2004-10-29 Thread nj902
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Grantham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "...I will apologize for making a post which opened the floodgates of Maggiore cheerleading. .." __ __ That's OK. The subject has to come up o

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-750 & TKR-850

2004-10-29 Thread Mike WA6ILQ
At 02:21 AM 10/29/04, you wrote: >Hello all, I have got two Kenwood repeaters a TKR-750 and a TKR-850 >which when switched on they come up with E1 in the display. I am >assuming this is because they are not programmed ? >Where can I find out what all these codes mean and what are the pin >connect

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-750 & TKR-850

2004-10-29 Thread Marvin K. Hoffman
W9DHI wrote: >William do you have high speed internet...if so I can send you the Service >Manual on PDF. And you are right E1 means the unit isn't programmed. > > >Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Un-Retired >Administrator http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org >K2/100 S#3075 KX1 S# 57 >Member: ARRL, RSGB, RC

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-750 & TKR-850

2004-10-29 Thread W9DHI
William do you have high speed internet...if so I can send you the Service Manual on PDF. And you are right E1 means the unit isn't programmed. Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Un-Retired Administrator http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org K2/100 S#3075 KX1 S# 57 Member: ARRL, RSGB, RCA, WERA and ORC

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-750 & TKR-850

2004-10-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry, folks - I don't know how a different message than the one I was replying to wound up on this message. It's not the one I replied to! I'm also getting some duplicate messages on this list. LJ Original Message: - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 29 Oct 20

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-750 & TKR-850

2004-10-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The duplexer is $550 plus shipping. The rods haven't been cut short, I can send a .jpg picture via email (later this weekend after I get home and after the CQWW DX Contest). LJ Original Message: - From: valleyforge2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:21:11 - To: R

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed (humor)

2004-10-29 Thread Jim B.
Ken Arck wrote: > At 11:13 AM 10/29/2004 -0500, you wrote: > Hi, Neil. Yep, if push comes to shove, I'll build up a duplexed > using, not RG-58 but RG-8 or better. > > > Ken > (there is so much tongue in cheek around here, it's like watching a porno > flick!) > ROFLMAO!

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Maggiore Repeaters,AD NAUSEUM!

2004-10-29 Thread Q
Lets let Steve go sulk in the corner and get back to building repeaters,OK? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of

[Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-750 & TKR-850

2004-10-29 Thread valleyforge2002
Hello all, I have got two Kenwood repeaters a TKR-750 and a TKR-850 which when switched on they come up with E1 in the display. I am assuming this is because they are not programmed ? Where can I find out what all these codes mean and what are the pin connections on the back ? The instruction

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed

2004-10-29 Thread Q
How much for the duplexer? Have the tuning rods been cut short? - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed > > I have a Sinclair Q202G 4-cavity Pass/Reject VHF Duplexer which is > currently ttun

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed (humor)

2004-10-29 Thread Q
Well I recently upgraded to a Mastr12 and a Ringo Ranger,and that Rad Shack RG-58 works great! Good examples of what not to do! Thanks for the humor Kevin!!! L-O-L ROTFLMAO. - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:21 AM Sub

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed

2004-10-29 Thread Q
Hey,sorry,but I try to deal with the reality of the situation. Used duplexers can vary in price from $500 and up.Your equipment and situation will dictate what quality is needed to do the job.They come in bandpass,BPBR flavors with varying amounts of isolation.If you are on a high site wit

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed

2004-10-29 Thread Q
Well,lets first find out what you have,what the Micor is so we can help you make an informed decision. Can you supply specifics as to all equipment including model numbers? The Micor comes in mobile and base configurations with different flavors,like unified or non-unified chassis,duplex o

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-740 versus TKR-750 (Was: Maggiore's Service)

2004-10-29 Thread Jim B.
Eric Lemmon wrote: > Unfortunately, the TKR-740 receiver cannot properly respond to > a Motorola reverse burst, but that is a deficiency that I can live > with. (Geez, I wish Ham radios could encode and decode reverse burst!) > That's actually Motorola's fault. I think they and M/A-Com are the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] maggiore's service

2004-10-29 Thread Jim B.
Mike Mullarkey wrote: > Hi Russ, > > > > Why not buy a Kenwood TKR-850 or 750 and that way you pay a few bucks more > but you get a true commercial grade and duty repeater. Your money will be > better spent buying the commercial grade repeater vs. a ham spec repeater. > > > heh-actually

Re: [Repeater-Builder] vertex repeaters

2004-10-29 Thread Jim B.
John Place wrote: > > Has anyone have an alternate solution to Yaesu's configuration program > for those of us that have no serial ports, just usb to serial? Yaesu > said that their program will work in dos only and have no intensions of > changing. So much for recommending their repeaters an

[Repeater-Builder] Re: R100 and mobile UHF Radius

2004-10-29 Thread jason mathis
Thanks!! Looks like its back to the drawing board again. Does anyone know if the current sense hi and low is the same as the detector and thermal shut back? Maybe renamed though revisions? I bead blasted, machine, and lapped the radius heat sink today. I could not believe the amount of heat s

[Repeater-Builder] Re: R100 and mobile UHF Radius

2004-10-29 Thread jason mathis
Thanks!! That looks them same to me once I got further in them the were marked on the boards. Looks like I have to go back to the drawing board. Current sense hi and low, I need to find out thier function, is the same a detector and thermal shut back but renamed? Thanks very much for your hel

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Maggiore Repeaters, Sales, Service, Office Staff.

2004-10-29 Thread pm3349714
Mr.Grantham, We do not have any ill feelings toward you and will be glad to help you in any way possible. However, if personal information is requested on the original purchaser of the equipment it can not be released due to privacy laws. It does not appear that this is an equipment issue b

[Repeater-Builder] Re: R100 and mobile UHF Radius

2004-10-29 Thread Gary
OK, I do not know if this will help. I have the R100 manual and I have a UHF Maxtrac manual. I know the Maxtrac is not a Radius, but I believe the PA's are the same. I'm sure someone will pipe up and correct me if I'm wrong. R100 wire color and functions: Blue - Thermal shutback Green - Det

[Repeater-Builder] Maggiore Repeaters, Sales, Service, Office Staff.

2004-10-29 Thread russ
Hello All, Lets get one thing clear! I relayed what I have found in MY dealing with the nice folks up at Maggiore. I called no one, nor did I imply that any one was a liar! I also said I never use there e-mail or web site so I have no idea how that works. I will say that I have dealt with them for

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed (humor)

2004-10-29 Thread Ken Arck
At 11:13 AM 10/29/2004 -0500, you wrote: Hi, Neil. Yep, if push comes to shove, I'll build up a duplexed using, not RG-58 but RG-8 or better.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed (humor)

2004-10-29 Thread Cecil Ferguson
Hi, Neil.  Yep, if push comes to shove, I'll build up a duplexed using, not RG-58 but RG-8 or better.  Had a friend in SC some 35 years back, make one and it worked swell.  Had no problems what so ever.  The antenna you suggest, of course, is an excellent choice .  We have hard line promised

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed

2004-10-29 Thread Cecil Ferguson
Thanks, Joe, and realizing my goof,, my response was in jest as well.  Thanks for the information.  This is the price range I'm seeking.  As related in another response, I have a $750.00 offer, tuned to our frequency and guaranteed.  I believe there is someone on this list that can get us a s

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: maggiore's service

2004-10-29 Thread Steve Grantham
Okay folks... I will apologize for making a post which opened the floodgates of Maggiore cheerleading. I do not have ten of their repeaters, or the working relationship with them that would necessarily be built due to that level of contact and funding. I was representing the one-repeater return

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed

2004-10-29 Thread Cecil Ferguson
It is, and obviously, I goofed.  Thanks to you and all the others that responded.  I now have my answer on the crystal units.  Still open for the cheap duplexers, however.  We have one priced to me for $750.00 tuned to our frequency.  Still looking, still hoping. Thanks, Neil and all the oth

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed - Micor

2004-10-29 Thread Cecil Ferguson
Tnanks for the reply.  The current system has quite a mixture,  440 receive links to a separate 2 meter receive site.  With separate XMIT and RCV sites, we don't have need for duplexeers.  We do have a set, but they are for frequencies above the ham band, or some other spread.  The lowest fre

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed

2004-10-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a Sinclair Q202G 4-cavity Pass/Reject VHF Duplexer which is currently ttuned up on a 600 KHz split (on 166.350/166.950 MHz). It came came with a Motorola MSR-2000 Repeater on the same frequency - I just picked these up from the BLM with a bunch of other gear and they're surplus to my needs.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed (humor)

2004-10-29 Thread Neil McKie
Hey Kevin, Since you have done some work in the CATV industry, why don't you explain how a 'G line' distribution system works? Thank you Kevin, next April is a few months out yet. Neil Kevin Custer wrote: > > Neil McKie wrote: > > > Would that be a Motorola Micor ?? > > >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed (humor)

2004-10-29 Thread Neil McKie
Don't forget the 'G line' to the antenna ... Neil Kevin Custer wrote: > > Neil McKie wrote: > > > Would that be a Motorola Micor ?? > > > > Actually, I think he meant GE Micron, it's similar in size and features > to the Motorola Master 11 which was popular in the near future to buil

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: maggiore's service

2004-10-29 Thread russ
Hello All, I have been dealing with Maggiore for many years. I can say that I have asked the history of many repeaters and transmitters and receivers in housings over the years and I have always with out fail gotten an answer from Dee Maggiore in a timely fashion. Some times on some really old st

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed (humor)

2004-10-29 Thread Kevin Custer
Neil McKie wrote: > Would that be a Motorola Micor ?? > Actually, I think he meant GE Micron, it's similar in size and features to the Motorola Master 11 which was popular in the near future to build repeaters from. These radios are not to be confused with the less popular Motorola Mitrex,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed

2004-10-29 Thread Joe
I really don't think that Q was being mean or hitting you too hard, I just think that Q was trying to clue you in on the reality of building a 2 meter repeater. I have had cheap duplexers (old telephone company IMTS duplexers) and tried my best to make them work without success. I would consider

[Repeater-Builder] Sunspot Activity

2004-10-29 Thread Mr. Edgar McKinney
BIG SUNSPOT: During the weekend, sunspot 687 grew impressively. It's now almost 10 times wider than Earth, and it is surrounded by a number of other growing 'spots. Solar activity, low for weeks, could increase in the days ahead. LUNAR ECLIPSE: Don't forget, there's a lunar eclipse this week

Re: [Repeater-Builder] SyntorX Base FS

2004-10-29 Thread John \(WB5NFC\)
Steve, More info on the Maratrac, please... John --- Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Trunked SyntorX Base > L35VBB5174AM > CC5031 > RC0246 > TUF1071AS (installed unit) > Working when pulled from service > W/ Desk Mic > Off-Post if interested. Pics. > Offer and it's yours. > Also: > Mos

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed

2004-10-29 Thread Neil McKie
Would that be a Motorola Micor ?? Neil - WA6KLA Cecil Ferguson wrote: > > I am a new member of the group with a question. We have the opportunity > to replace our present "pieced together" repeater with a Micron, which > is offered at a better than believable price. We will need crysta

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed - Micor

2004-10-29 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Gene, what is wrong with the duplexer you presently have? You stated that you already had a system up and running and were replacing the radio with a Micor (although you did say units, not sure if you are talking about using two mobile units or not)   Chuck WB2EDV       - Original Me

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed - Micor

2004-10-29 Thread KI4AWK
Probably about $50 for crystals, I suggest sending the channel element to ICM to have the crystal installed and temperature compensated. Keep in mind too that you will need to tune the radio to the new frequency. It will be well worth your efforts, you have a fine machine.   ...And yes, so

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed

2004-10-29 Thread Cecil Ferguson
OK, so go easy.  I said I was new to the list.  Don't hit me too hard the very first time, or is this the norm?  You know, cheap ;is relative.  Thanks anyway. Gene **.. Q wrote: Also,the words"2meter duplexer" and "cheap" do not go together at all. No such thing as a cheap 2 meter du

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed

2004-10-29 Thread Cecil Ferguson
Hey, I meant Micor.  You're right, a Micron may be a little small for the job.  Can you help? Q wrote: What the heck is a Micron? I thought it was a unit of measure? If you want a kick butt repeater,get a GE MastrII or Micor 100% duty cycle base,proven performers... - Original Messa

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed

2004-10-29 Thread Q
Also,the words"2meter duplexer" and "cheap" do not go together at all. No such thing as a cheap 2 meter duplexer that works well.Prepare to pay if you want one. - Original Message - From: Cecil Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Repeater-Builders Group Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:1

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed

2004-10-29 Thread Q
What the heck is a Micron? I thought it was a unit of measure? If you want a kick butt repeater,get a GE MastrII or Micor 100% duty cycle base,proven performers... - Original Message - From: Cecil Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Repeater-Builders Group Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004

[Repeater-Builder] R100 and mobile UHF Radius

2004-10-29 Thread jason mathis
OK the 8w R100 lost its final drive transistor. I happen to come up on a 25w Radius mobile. The boards will not make a direct swap because the Mobile's length is slightly longer. So I am taking the Mobile's heatsink to work so I can machine it and lap it so it will mate with the big heatsink

Re: [Repeater-Builder] maggiore's service

2004-10-29 Thread Lance
Title: Message I've had the 220 MHz Maggiore for over 10 years and have yet to have the first problem with it.  It's like the "Energizer Bunny", keeps on going.  My Aerotron has suffered "cardiac arrest" 3 times, and my Mastr II, also.    Lance - WN0L   - Original Message - F

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-740 versus TKR-750 (Was: Maggiore's Service)

2004-10-29 Thread Neil McKie
Hey Eric, You have the manual on the TLD1692D PA Deck? If so, good. If not lemme know ... Neil Eric Lemmon wrote: > > Mike, > > If you're looking for a "commercial-grade" repeater, buy a TKR-740 > rather than a TKR-750, or a TKR-840 instead of a TKR-850. > > The Kenwood TK

[Repeater-Builder] SyntorX Base FS

2004-10-29 Thread Steve
Trunked SyntorX Base L35VBB5174AM CC5031 RC0246 TUF1071AS (installed unit) Working when pulled from service W/ Desk Mic Off-Post if interested. Pics. Offer and it's yours. Also: Mostars D35 & D45 Radius D44 Maxtrac D37 Micor T54 Motrac T64 Maratrac T73 Mitrek T83 Steve. Yahoo! Groups

[Repeater-Builder] Help needed

2004-10-29 Thread Cecil Ferguson
I am a new member of the group with a question. We have the opportunity to replace our present "pieced together" repeater with a Micron, which is offered at a better than believable price. We will need crystals, however. Can anyone give us the approzimate cost of a set of crystal units for

Re: [Repeater-Builder] maggiore's service

2004-10-29 Thread N6KYD
I have had great service from Maggiore with fast turn arounds. Having bought some older used Maggiore products off ebay, they came back from repair and have been working great for the last 2 years. The repair prices were very reasonable.   Mike K. N6KYD - Original Message - Fr

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: maggiore's service

2004-10-29 Thread Steve Grantham
Paul, Thank you for replying. I will have to go to the computer on my desk, and I will forward you copies of previous outgoing messages and reply bounce messages that were sent and received here via my alternate ISP. It has been months, early in the year, but I had contacted your office via t

[Repeater-Builder] TKR-740 versus TKR-750 (Was: Maggiore's Service)

2004-10-29 Thread Eric Lemmon
Mike, If you're looking for a "commercial-grade" repeater, buy a TKR-740 rather than a TKR-750, or a TKR-840 instead of a TKR-850. The Kenwood TKR-x50 repeaters are their economy, low-tier repeaters that do quite well at construction sites and non-demanding applications. As integrated, full-dup

Re: [Repeater-Builder] vertex repeaters

2004-10-29 Thread N4BKT William Laakkonen
>> I'm not even sure I can program all of Motorola's products with the two > laptops I carry now (one old, one new) because I think you really need > DOS, Win2000 and WinXP to do the entire line. The root of the problem > is that the software engineers won't properly implement their code to > us