RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power

2007-03-24 Thread mch
The 40A ones look heavier. I was also told that they are made from a different material, but don't recall exactly what it was - something like tin vs silver plated or something. Joe M. > The only difference is the size of wire that will fit. > > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Watch your use of the English Language here

2007-03-24 Thread Ken Arck
Reminds of a local (Hawaiian local that is) joke.. Knock knock Who's there? Me ma Me ma who? Really? Ken (If you're in Hawaii, you will get this. For the rest of you, my apologies for the bandwidth) -- President and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Watch your use of the English Language here

2007-03-24 Thread Barry C'
The amusing thing is the correction of spelling or grammer instantly brands that party as a loser , and the rest of the world does not use American spelling , perhaps Gary l doesn't realise this ? >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogr

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power

2007-03-24 Thread Fred Flowers
The only difference is the size of wire that will fit. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mch Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 3:18 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power

2007-03-24 Thread mch
There are three ratings of PP that all use the same size shell. These are the 40 Amp, 30 Amp, and I believe the third is 15 or 20 Amp. Most of the ones you see sold are the 30 Amp version. The 40A is built obviously heavier than the other two. My previous comments were all relative to the 30A vers

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power

2007-03-24 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Answered in previous posts --- -Whatever brand PowerWerx sells - if they sell junk ones, then that's why -No crimper, they were soldered. -No, the solder nor the flux traveled to the contact area. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "mch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, M

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power

2007-03-24 Thread mch
Were they authentic Anderson Power Poles or some other brand. I've been using them for years (some over 20 years continuous) and I've never seen a problem with them. Second question: How were they installed? Was an 'appropriate' crimp tool used or was a cheap one used that perhaps bent the contact

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power

2007-03-24 Thread mch
But can't you say that about anything? An improperly built repeater will not be as reliable as one that is properly built. Is that the fault of the equipment or the builder? Joe M. Paul Metzger wrote: > > I second that. > > I myself have found these little power pole connectors (which are > rec

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anderson PowerPole Connectors

2007-03-24 Thread mch
When I want reliability, I do *both* - crimp then solder. (making sure the solder does not 'travel' down the shaft of the contact. Sorry for all the 'short' replies. I'll consolidate the rest here. Someone mentioned Johnson equipment. The PPL6060 (UHF) I've been using for nearly 30 years has them

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Watch your use of the English Language here

2007-03-24 Thread Gary
Thanks but unfortunately spell checker recognizes both spellings and it also missed my missing word "to" so even though I did use spell checker is not full proof. I have a life which has nothing to do with this unwanted thread that, as I've already mentioned, doesn't belong on this reflector. Ga

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Watch your use of the English Language here

2007-03-24 Thread cruising7388
Gary, the real pitty here is that you are a language cop that can't even spell pity. I myself think it's time for you to get a both a dictionary or a spell checker + a life! In a message dated 3/24/2007 10:57:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Begin forwarded mess

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Watch your use of the English Language here

2007-03-24 Thread Gary
My comments about Paul's initial message were sent directly to him off of this list so as to avoid embarrassing him or inviting unwanted public response. Paul has chosen to bring my private comments to this reflector without first asking me or realizing the comments are not at all related topics

[Repeater-Builder] Watch your use of the English Language here

2007-03-24 Thread Paul Metzger
Begin forwarded message: From: Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: March 24, 2007 10:42:26 PDT To: Paul Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power You know, it's not only a pitty but also ironic that you don't value our language more especially since you are inv

[Repeater-Builder] Watch your use of the English Language here

2007-03-24 Thread Paul Metzger
Begin forwarded message: From: Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: March 24, 2007 08:42:39 PDT To: Paul Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power Paul, please get out of the habit of saying or writing "I myself" as it is redundant and an

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power

2007-03-24 Thread John J. Riddell
I too have used the SB-50 power pole connectors and they are GREAT ! All of my DC stuff here is standardized around the SB-50's I have installed them on my Son's big John Deere tractors to power accesory equipment, on his dairy farm Nortel uses the SB-50's (Black) on their fibre equipment and acc

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power

2007-03-24 Thread Fred Flowers
I've never had an issue with the bodies coming apart. When I slide them together they're a pain to get apart. I read some place that some CA. ARIES groups decided to reverse the standard polarity. One may not want to glue your go box radio connecters. Fred N4GER -Original Message- From

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power

2007-03-24 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Whatever PowerWerx sell. That's the only place I've purchased. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "Mike Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 1:12 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power > I've seen poorly made Chinese

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power

2007-03-24 Thread Mike Morris
I've seen poorly made Chinese made clones that were junk, and I've seen the real Andersons that almost needed Channelocks to pull apart. I've also seen ones with defective plating and insufficient spring tension get so hot they melted the bodies. You get what you pay for. If all you've seen is th

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anderson PowerPole Connectors

2007-03-24 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I've never crimped, always soldered. The assembly instructions provided by Anderson give you your choice of either method. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "Eric Lemmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 12:39 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Anderson PowerP

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Anderson PowerPole Connectors

2007-03-24 Thread skipp025
All great information Eric (thank you) but I have two or three of the proper crimpt tools for each size terminal/contact and have experienced the high current failure problem with more than my fair share of properly made small powerpole connectors made by others and myself. cheers, skipp >

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power

2007-03-24 Thread skipp025
Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power Hi Ted, Smaller being the typical size power-pole you see being sold for much of the Amateur Radio aps. There are a number of distribution panels sold by MFJ, Powerwerks, Saratoga Power and flea market tables using the common small size. I would guess

[Repeater-Builder] Anderson PowerPole Connectors

2007-03-24 Thread Eric Lemmon
I suspect that part of the problem seen by a few PowerPole users is that the wrong tool was used to crimp the terminals. The correct tool should be intended for non-insulated terminals, which rules out those made for insulated lugs, as well as Vise-Grips and Channel-Lock pliers. Both Thomas & Bet

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power

2007-03-24 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I've had the 30-amp powerpoles go intermittent. Kind of disappointing for what I thought was supposed to be a premium power connector. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "Paul Metzger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MSF5000 Manual

2007-03-24 Thread Eric Lemmon
Dan, The manuals you need are still available from Motorola Parts (800-422-4210), while supplies last. You need both the Basic Service Manual and the Detailed (Depot) Service Manual to cover the 900 MHz MSF5000 station. 6881092E05 MSF5000 Instruction Manual, about $42 6881092E90 MSF5000 900 MHz

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power

2007-03-24 Thread Fred Flowers
What is the problem? The directions say, "Push in until they click". How hard is that? The little ones go together just like the big ones. Anybody with one eye and half sense can do it. They are the greatest thing to come along since caned beer. I use West Mountain rig runners in my truck, i

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power

2007-03-24 Thread Paul Metzger
I second that. I myself have found these little power pole connectors (which are recommended by emergency groups) to be a bit too delicate for me. And if improperly built, will have little or almost no contact tension at all. Honestly I was a little shocked when I started seeing these litt

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MSF5000 Manual

2007-03-24 Thread N9WYS
Dan, For the most part, they pop up from time to time on e-Pay. I can't say whether some of the prices (Buy It Now) are good or not. Also - have you tried Motorola parts? I don't know whether they are NLA from the factory. Mark - N9WYS _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.co

[Repeater-Builder] MSF5000 Manual

2007-03-24 Thread Dan Hancock
Our group just bought an MSF5000 900 Mhz, 75 watt repeater. The thing is immaculate and the unit is even the PC programmable version, not the eprom. New we need a manual. Does anyone have the MSF5K manual for either 800 or 900 band they can part with? Or even one we could borrow long eno

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Power-Pole connectors NOT for power

2007-03-24 Thread Tedd Doda
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:01:17 -, skipp025 wrote: >I try not to use the small powerpoles any more.. the smaller made >power-poles don't have adequate contact tension/pressure and have >been real trouble makers for me. *Smaller* being what Skipp? I've had excellent results using the 30 amp con