Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Frequency Change do I retune duplexer?

2008-06-30 Thread no6b
At 6/30/2008 08:53, you wrote: >The pad is only used during testing to isolate mismatch between the >signal generator and spectrum analyzer and the device under test - not >to be left in permanently. At WACOM it was standard practice to use a >10 dB pad between the test equipment and the device un

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Frequency Change do I retune duplexer?

2008-06-30 Thread no6b
At 6/30/2008 08:48, you wrote: > > >This is why it is best to put about 1-2 db 50 ohm pad > > between the duplexer > > >and the receiver, to help keep the receive side at 50 ohm. > > > > And degrade my system sensitivity by that same amount? No thanks. > >Maybe I misunderstood - I thought he was s

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Frequency Change do I retune duplexer?

2008-06-30 Thread skipp025
> "Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No Skipp, deviation was not mentioned, but the frequency change is on > the same magnitude as increasing transmitter deviation - a 12.5 khz > shift in frequency. 73, Steve NU5D OK, if you think they are the same... fine with me. cheers

Re: [Repeater-Builder] FS-MSR2000 VHF Exciters

2008-06-30 Thread Tom Manning
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Additional help to ID AMP

2008-06-30 Thread Eric Lemmon
Dennis, The Motorola TLD1693D power amplifier is rated at 100 watts continuous duty for the 150.8 to 162 MHz band. It will not operate properly outside of that band without extensive (and very expensive) modification. The specifications state that it requires 400 mW of drive, and it draws 20.5 a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] ID INFO NEEDED

2008-06-30 Thread Eric Lemmon
Dennis, That is a General Electric model number, but I could not find it listed in the microfiche file. Please check very carefully for any other numbers on this device, especially any number stamped in black ink along the edge of a PCB. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From:

[Repeater-Builder] Additional help to ID AMP

2008-06-30 Thread Dennis Griffin
My last post I listed what was an apparent GE model# 19xxx Anyway, I have located a Motorola TLD1693D which I do believe is a Motorola Micor AMP and would like to know some info about it - drive requirements and current would be extremely helpful. 73, Dennis Griffin - W4DG

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Frequency Change do I retune duplexer?

2008-06-30 Thread Nate Duehr
garyp609 wrote: > If a repeater was on 447.575 and the frequency was changed to 447.5625 > would the duplexers need to be re-tuned? > Thanks & 73's > Gary K2ACY That depends: How picky are you about your tuning and doing it right? (GRIN) Nate WY0X

RE: [Repeater-Builder] ID INFO NEEDED

2008-06-30 Thread Butch Kanvick
Hi, Dennis. Your model number looks like a GE part number so it might be hard to get Motorola information on it. Butch, KE7FEL/r To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:26:08 -0400Subject: [Repeater-Builder] ID INFO NEEDED Hello all: I’m trying to locate inform

[Repeater-Builder] ID INFO NEEDED

2008-06-30 Thread Dennis Griffin
Hello all: I'm trying to locate information of a Motorola TX Amp model #19A149544G1 Specifically, power rating, frequency current requirements, etc. TNX in advance! 73, Dennis - W4DG

[Repeater-Builder] Celwave 696 duplexer info

2008-06-30 Thread Bob M.
Someone gave me a unit to tune up on the UHF ham band. No label on it. Four cavities, two female N connectors on each one, obviously Bp/Br as there are two tuning adjustments (long threaded rod, shorter slotted rod), Celwave design. I've got one that's very similar on 896 MHz and I've also got s

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Frequency Change do I retune duplexer?

2008-06-30 Thread Gary Schafer
If you see several db difference with a 12.5 KHz frequency shift then your duplexer is also distorting your audio on the transmitted signal. It would induce unwanted phase shifts and also unwanted amplitude changes in the transmitted signal. 73 Gary K4FMX > -Original Message- > From: Rep

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Frequency Change do I retune duplexer?

2008-06-30 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
The pad is only used during testing to isolate mismatch between the signal generator and spectrum analyzer and the device under test - not to be left in permanently. At WACOM it was standard practice to use a 10 dB pad between the test equipment and the device under test. This is because it i

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Frequency Change do I retune duplexer?

2008-06-30 Thread Jeff DePolo
> >This is why it is best to put about 1-2 db 50 ohm pad > between the duplexer > >and the receiver, to help keep the receive side at 50 ohm. > > And degrade my system sensitivity by that same amount? No thanks. Maybe I misunderstood - I thought he was suggesting using pads while tuning, not du

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Frequency Change do I retune duplexer?

2008-06-30 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
No Skipp, deviation was not mentioned, but the frequency change is on the same magnitude as increasing transmitter deviation - a 12.5 khz shift in frequency. 73, Steve NU5D skipp025 wrote: >> "Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I beg to differ on this one, most respectfull

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Frequency Change do I retune duplexer?

2008-06-30 Thread skipp025
> "Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I beg to differ on this one, most respectfully, but we are > talking about the difference between running the transmitter > at 2.5 Khz deviation vs 5.0 Khz, ie, 12.5 Khz occupied band > width, vs, 25 khz occupied band width - does this me

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Frequency Change do I retune duplexer?

2008-06-30 Thread Jeff DePolo
I'd go with more like 6 or 10 dB. The return loss of a pad is equal to twice its insertion loss, so if you use a 6 dB pad, the worst-case return loss would be 12 dB (i.e. if the pad were open or shorted at the far end). This 12 dB plus whatever the return loss is of the device under test (which,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Frequency Change do I retune duplexer?

2008-06-30 Thread no6b
At 6/29/2008 22:57, you wrote: >This is why it is best to put about 1-2 db 50 ohm pad between the duplexer >and the receiver, to help keep the receive side at 50 ohm. And degrade my system sensitivity by that same amount? No thanks. The duplexer simply has to be able to deal with the mismatch

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Reasonably low wind load antenna

2008-06-30 Thread Scott Overstreet
Hello Wayne and all--- Point of intrest-OSH (Orchard Supply Hardware) started in downtown San Jose California, at the South end of San Francisco Bay---right in the middle of what used to be the heart of California orchard country. The orchards here are all gone now and OSH has spread wildly

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower lighting on 200 foot tower - maybe off topic

2008-06-30 Thread Ron Wright
Tower lighting requirments go back decades. Only in past few years has some rules changed that required strobes during the day and allowed towers not to have to be painted the red/white. Lower towers only require night lighting I think. The above 200 ft requiring lighting has been around for

[Repeater-Builder] SM-50 Programming Help!

2008-06-30 Thread theusinkveld
Hello group! I am in need of assistance in programming some SM-50 mobile radios into the 440 ham band. What is the easiest way to do this? I have version 3 of the RSS. Feel free to PM me @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, K0FCQ

[Repeater-Builder] looking for help building a votyer system

2008-06-30 Thread Bernie McDonnell
We use a GE Mastr II VHF Repeater here in St. Thomas, Virgin Islands. We need to improve reception around the island due to the high use of handhelds and rugged terrain. We hope to add three remote receivers to our system. We have a couple of modified GE MVPs with a 2mtr RX and a 70cm TX. We are lo

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Frequency Change do I retune duplexer?

2008-06-30 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
I beg to differ on this one, most respectfully, but we are talking about the difference between running the transmitter at 2.5 Khz deviation vs 5.0 Khz, ie, 12.5 Khz occupied band width, vs, 25 khz occupied band width - does this mean a duplexer retune is needed when we switch from narrow FM to