Must be that because splices were/are very seldom used, the prices are
astronomical.
I will wait, for now, till I see what the future will bring me.
By splicing only where the cable can be well supported on both sides of
the splice, I would anticipate no problems using what I have.
And
Yeah, EIA or F flanges are an option, but a cheaper alternative would
be DIN connectors.
They are very common (low price point) as they are very common in the
Cell/PCS world these days. Probably about the same price as "N"
connectors.
The return loss through a DIN connector splice is comparable t
On Apr 25, 2008, at 11:35 PM, Wayne wrote:
> Did some searching, and it looks like splices would run maybe twice
> or
> more the cost of one male and one female.
Yup. This probably falls into the category of "you get what you pay
for" when compared to regular connectors.
> As it is, I ha
.
> Andrew part numbers are L45R
>
> Ralph
> - Original Message -
> From: Ron Wright<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
> Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:54 AM
> Subj
other applications needing a spice.
>
> Would have lower loss and cost less than two connectors. More reliable
> also.
>
> 73, ron, nn9ee/r
>
>
>
>
>
>> From: Wayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2008/04/24 Thu PM 10:21:01 CDT
>> To: Repeater-
eater-Builder@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
> Thanks, I had no way of knowing that. Tells me the connectors are good
>parts.
> The 4 Heliax connectors I bought with the cable are Andrew connec
oups.com
Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
Wayne,
One issue on the connectors for reconnecting coax.
Many make back to back type connectors for this. They are essentially the
back end of 2 connectors joined as one piece/connector. Mostly used where a
long feedline cannot be pla
applications needing a spice.
Would have lower loss and cost less than two connectors. More reliable also.
73, ron, nn9ee/r
>From: Wayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/04/24 Thu PM 10:21:01 CDT
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
Thanks, I had no way of knowing that. Tells me the connectors are good
parts.
The 4 Heliax connectors I bought with the cable are Andrew connectors.
I'm wondering when the Andrew web site will be back up. Is it based in
taiwan? I know they had problems there due to a major quake that shut
Oops.
I forgot to forward it to the list, as mentioned at the bottom. You
guys will love this!
Nate
Nate Duehr wrote:
> Paul Holm wrote:
>> - Original Message - From: "Nate Duehr"
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 7:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Bui
>> I have that on my site:
>> http://www.tabajara-labs.com.br/eletronica/gambiarras/
>> Send me the photos and I'll put there :o)
> I just got back from a visit to the 'Gambiarras" where I fell out of
> my chair laffing so hard... LOL is putting it TOO mildly
Take a look around
At 4/23/2008 23:30, you wrote:
> Cannot see any braid without undoing one of the N connectors on the RG214
>jumper.
You can scrape a tiny piece of the outer jacket off at the connector & take
a peek. If the jumper is going to be outside, that area will need to be
weatherproofed anyway.
> C
Nice install. The guys need some work, but the RF gear looked good.
73, ron, n9ee/r
>From: Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/04/22 Tue PM 07:58:31 CDT
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
>
&
Cannot see any braid without undoing one of the N connectors on the RG214
jumper.
Connectors are evidently not Amphenol, unless they didn't mark them as
such. The cable says RG214/U. Connectors marked 74868 UG-1185/U Seems to
be good quality.
No leakage that I can tell, and zero resista
Alexandre Souza wrote:
>> p.s: I've run across several other technology-groups who like to post
>> 'Wall of Shame' pix - got a few myself. Any interest out there?
>
> I have that on my site:
> http://www.tabajara-labs.com.br/eletronica/gambiarras/
>
> Send me the photos and I'll put
Wayne wrote:
> I also have a bulkhead mount Polyphaser which I could, for the time
> being, install at the repeater itself and use a jumper there that is
Others may disagree, but the Polyphaser is only "perfect" if tied to a
properly planned single-point or halo/ring grounding system.
It'
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Alexandre Souza"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > p.s: I've run across several other technology-groups who like to post
> > 'Wall of Shame' pix - got a few myself. Any interest out there?
>
> I have that on my site:
> http://www.tabajara-labs.com
At 03:35 AM 04/22/08, you wrote:
> > p.s: I've run across several other technology-groups who like to post
> > 'Wall of Shame' pix - got a few myself. Any interest out there?
>
> I have that on my site:
> http://www.tabajara-labs.com.br/eletronica/gambiarras/
>
> Send me the photos and
Use of the antenna could be considered theft of services IMO.
Theft of services covers a number of things.
Not sure what the 240 volts would do, maybe burn out loops in the
duplexers being used, if it managed that before kicking the circuit
breaker. Possible melt some of that teeny coax t
Neal,
Sure send me the control and I'll take a look.
73, ron, n9ee/r
>From: neal Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/04/22 Tue AM 10:53:07 CDT
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
>
>
ubject: Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 9:05 AM
> Neal,
>
> Your point is a good one. We don't know the whole
> story and many of our comments are for fun. There may be a
> real good reason wh
> p.s: I've run across several other technology-groups who like to post
> 'Wall of Shame' pix - got a few myself. Any interest out there?
I have that on my site:
http://www.tabajara-labs.com.br/eletronica/gambiarras/
Send me the photos and I'll put there :o)
At 4/23/2008 00:45, you wrote:
> Okay, at this point, I have the following:
> 100 feet of LD5-50A
> 1 Female 'N' connector for same
> 3 male 'N' connectors for same, plus an additional male 'N' from another
>source. All for the LDF5050A cable
> At antenna, a 3 or 4 foot 1/2" Heliax jumper
TED]>
>Date: 2008/04/22 Tue AM 07:44:46 CDT
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
>
>On a quick Note Ron
>If the repeater was for emergency services( Police,fire,ems or during a
>storm) ,and was a Must Ge
t <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 7:22 AM
> Larry,
>
> I thought the same thing except I would go for more 240
> V...a good old TV transformer with about
At 06:22 AM 4/22/2008, you wrote:
>Larry,
>I thought the same thing except I would go for more 240 V...a good
>old TV transformer with about 800V would do. Also if you stand
>inside the building looking for smoke it would lead to the user of
>the feedline. Bet they would not do it again.
>This w
, ron, n9ee/r
>From: Larry Wagoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/04/21 Mon PM 06:08:47 CDT
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
>
>At 05:43 PM 4/21/2008, you wrote:
>>I would think the one using t
Okay, at this point, I have the following:
100 feet of LD5-50A
1 Female 'N' connector for same
3 male 'N' connectors for same, plus an additional male 'N' from another
source. All for the LDF5050A cable
At antenna, a 3 or 4 foot 1/2" Heliax jumper, as the connectors for the
7/8" Helia
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 3:00 PM
> Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas.
> first is that the person who cut the heliax must be
> really dense to think
> he could get away wit
For the record, the Andrews web site seems to still be down. Means all
info I fiond is from other web sites, vendors, etc...
Also, it seems that Andrews has discontinued a couple of types of Heliax,
including what I have. One person came up with them only making it with
aluminum outer sh
;mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
> Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 3:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
>
>
> Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas.
>
epeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
Wayne wrote:
> Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas.
> first is that the person who cut the heliax must be really dense to think
> he could get away with it. All one needs to do is trace that other coax to
> wherever. Plus it might be po
At 05:43 PM 4/21/2008, you wrote:
>I would think the one using the cable is the one who cut it.
Or at the very least is responsible - given that that person's
equipment is connected.
One cannot claim ignorance at a certain point ...
And it is the CUTTING of the hardline that is the criminal damag
Jeff,
I would think the one using the cable is the one who cut it.
73, ron, n9ee/r
>From: Jeff Kincaid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/04/21 Mon PM 04:54:19 CDT
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
>
>Th
The site manager had doped out which cables should go where, and
tie-wrapped the appropriate cut ends together. It's obvious who is
using our antenna, but not so clear who cut the cables. He's the one
we'd really like to nab. No cables were taken, they were only cut.
It's a ham-only site, so at
Wayne wrote:
> Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas.
> first is that the person who cut the heliax must be really dense to think
> he could get away with it. All one needs to do is trace that other coax to
> wherever. Plus it might be possible to lift fingerprints from the hel
ater-Builder@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas.
first is that the person who cut the heliax must be really dense to think
Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas.
first is that the person who cut the heliax must be really dense to think
he could get away with it. All one needs to do is trace that other coax to
wherever. Plus it might be possible to lift fingerprints from the heliax.
Second, looks
, ron, n9ee/r
>From: Jim Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/04/21 Mon AM 03:09:16 CDT
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
>
>I finally got a new connector and jumper cable installed last week on a
>
>I was really glad I had a "new" camera from eBay with me for testing.
> It was unusual that I had it along but I think I should change that
> and make it a habit to bring one on service calls in the future.
Cameras are so cheap nowadays you can always have a "disposable"
2mpixels camera on y
At 06:44 AM 4/21/2008, you wrote:
>One other question I have; Was this perp Amateur, or Commercial?
What I wonder is why this person has not faced criminal charges.
What was done was criminal damage to property - and if that is a significant
length of hardline - it could be FELONY criminal dam
The small, cheap digital camera is a boon to any service-puke.
One other question I have; Was this perp Amateur, or Commercial? If
ham, that's the kind of crap that gives us a bad name in the business.
If Commercial, well, it's par for the course,too; I've seen plenty of
installations that got
I finally got a new connector and jumper cable installed last week on a
repeater that has been out of service for several months. The hard line and
jumper had been cut with an ax and removed for scrap copper. It has taken me
this long to find a connector for the hard line. They climbed a chai
I was really glad I had a "new" camera from eBay with me for testing.
It was unusual that I had it along but I think I should change that
and make it a habit to bring one on service calls in the future.
I appreciate all the comments; nobody else could relate to this like
you guys do. Hmm, I wo
Not only did he follow it, he wired it to 120VAC after he repaired his
Heliax...
Seriously -- I hope he followed it, if only to find out who the moron was
that did that! (And then reported it to the tower/site manager.)
Mark - N9WYS
-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.
Yes, it's absolutely true. We took bets on how many times their rack
will go end over end when we push it over the side of the mountain. I
like the idea of selling tickets! I'll let you know...
'JK
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "kb4mdz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jeff -
>
> Are
While investigating a problem with a Low-Band (46 MHz) repeater, we
determined that the antenna harness on a DB 212-4 was bad. It turned out
that two UHF female "T" connectors were bad. The center pin of the "T" was,
instead of screwing into the center of the through pin, making contact with
the
Over the years I thought I had seen it all. That one takes the prize.
Harry, W0OZL
- Original Message -
> Here's a link to a photo I made during a recent service call. Someone
> has cut the Heliax to our UHF receive antenna and spliced a piece of
> RG-58 to it.
That Picture give the Term Low Loss Coax a New meaning, what an idiot
who ever it was , Thanks for posting I would of not believed it had I
not seen the Pic
Happy Repeater Building
Don KA9QJG
Hopefully whoever was connected to the RG-58 is no longer a tenant.
Ed Yoho
WA6RQD
Jeff -
Are you serious, that someone hijacked your UHF RX antenna line, and
put their own RG-58 to it?? That is absolutley HEINOUS! What sort of
punishment have you meted out to them?? Can we buy tickets to that show?
Chuk
kb4mdz
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Kincaid" <[EMAI
Jeff,
What site is that? Did you follow the RG58? Sort of looks familiar.
Will
"Jeff Kincaid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Here's a link to a photo I made during a recent service call.
> Someone has cut the Heliax to our UHF receive antenna and spliced a
> piece of RG-58 to it. Seriously,
Here's a link to a photo I made during a recent service call. Someone
has cut the Heliax to our UHF receive antenna and spliced a piece of
RG-58 to it. Seriously, if you're going to hijack an antenna, at
least you could spring for a lousy connector!
http://www.lafn.org/~jeffk/CoaxSpliceSm.jpg
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