Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions - Thanks for the answers

2010-09-08 Thread Chuck Kelsey
More likely he had the radio programmed wrong. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "MCH" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions - Thanks for the answers > His antenna

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions - Thanks for the answers

2010-09-07 Thread Thomas Oliver
I agree. The users would not even notice if you cut the power in half. One 2 meter repeater we took over was running on the 10 watt exciter with the amp bypassed for I don't know how long. The caretaker before we got it bypassed the amp because of desense or intermod or self oscillation issue

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions - Thanks for the answers

2010-09-07 Thread Glenn (Butch) Kanvick
Hi John. Sometimes you might not want to tel the others what you do to the repeater, then they cannot complain about any adjustments that you make. Butch, KE7FEL/r On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:12 PM, W3ML wrote: > > > Thanks to everyone for their comments and answers about my questions. > > I did t

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions - Thanks for the answers

2010-09-07 Thread MCH
His antenna could be in a null. It happens, as Murphy is a ham. Joe M. W3ML wrote: > Thanks to everyone for their comments and answers about my questions. > > I did turn it back so I am sure someone will say something. Once when a ham > said he could not hit it, I drove over and sat outside his

[Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions - Thanks for the answers

2010-09-07 Thread W3ML
Thanks to everyone for their comments and answers about my questions. I did turn it back so I am sure someone will say something. Once when a ham said he could not hit it, I drove over and sat outside his house with a 25 watt radio and brought it up with an S8 signal. It seems when a repeater g

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions

2010-09-06 Thread Ian Wells
gt; ;^) > > 73, > Paul, AE4KR > > > > - Original Message - > From: Tim Sawyer <mailto:tisaw...@gmail.com> > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 2:43 PM > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power > out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions > > > > > > > <>

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions

2010-09-06 Thread Jeff DePolo
: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer > SOLVED with more questions > > > > I agree. Put it back to the original output. I always like > to turn my stuff back at least 10%. > > Turn the beep tone up in volume, tell them you increased the > power.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions

2010-09-06 Thread Joe
ent:* Monday, September 06, 2010 2:43 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions

2010-09-06 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
oups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Plack Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 5:04 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions John, here's a more subtle lesson on repeaters,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions

2010-09-06 Thread petedcurtis
Hi, 70 watts out sounds OK. Duplexer's usually have about a 1 - 2db loss depends how they are set up, size of cavities etc and the model type. Duplexer loss = 10log(Pin/Pout) Duplexer Loss = 10Log(70/100)= -1.54dB. Peter On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:54 AM, W3ML wrote: > > > Thank

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions

2010-09-06 Thread Paul Plack
bject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions In that spirit. Going from 80 to 100 watts is 0.97 db better. That's probably not an improvement your users will notice. When one considers what a pain it is when the PA dies, it might not be wort

[Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions

2010-09-06 Thread W3ML
Okay Tim. That sounds like a wise idea especially since we have an old GE Mastr II and may not take much use at full power out. Thanks and 73 John, W3ML --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Tim Sawyer wrote: > > In that spirit. Going from 80 to 100 watts is 0.97 db better. That's probab

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions

2010-09-06 Thread Tim Sawyer
In that spirit. Going from 80 to 100 watts is 0.97 db better. That's probably not an improvement your users will notice. When one considers what a pain it is when the PA dies, it might not be worth it. Just my 2 cents but I think you're better off leaving the amp at 80 watts. -- Tim :wq On Sep

[Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions

2010-09-06 Thread W3ML
> > > Mike > > WM4B > > > > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of W3ML > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 10:55 AM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no

[Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions

2010-09-06 Thread W3ML
u're doing good. > > > > Remember, 3dB is going to take your power down 50%. > > > > 73, > > > > Mike > > > > WM4B > > > > *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *W3ML > >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions

2010-09-06 Thread Ralph Mowery
side.   - Original Message From: W3ML To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, September 6, 2010 10:54:37 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions Thanks Joe. We did most of those and then found the problem.  The T-connector

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions

2010-09-06 Thread Joe
oogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *W3ML > *Sent:* Monday, September 06, 2010 10:55 AM > *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with > more questions > > Thanks Joe. > > We did most of those and then found the probl

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions

2010-09-06 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
m] On Behalf Of W3ML Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 10:55 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions Thanks Joe. We did most of those and then found the problem. The T-connector center pin had broken off wh

[Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions

2010-09-06 Thread W3ML
Thanks Joe. We did most of those and then found the problem. The T-connector center pin had broken off when we apparently hooked up some test equipment and did not notice it. I still have one question though. Is it normal to have 100 watts coming out of radio and only 70 watts coming out of