Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-07 Thread Ron Wright
Dick, This discussion of weather proofing an antenna was started in part because I am replacing a 4 bay DB224 up high and near the Gulf of Mexico. We think the salt air got to it. We have had similar problems in the past. The antenna has been up for about 12 years. I was looking for a solut

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-07 Thread MCH
I haven't had as many problems with lightning and the fiberglass antennas as I have with wind causing fractures in the connections between the elements. In the case of the coasts, you have to deal with that AND salt, so I doubt there is any good solution. The above said, I do believe the 224 ty

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-07 Thread Dick
stance from the tower is non-resonant at your operating frequency. Hope this helps. Dick W1NMZ Manager (Retired) Electromagnetic Engineering and Test Lockheed Skunk Works - Original Message - From: Ron Wright To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 07 May, 2008 11:10 Subject: Re: [Rep

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-08 Thread wd8chl
ocwarren2000 wrote: > Er.. uh... Excuse me, but why all this commotion about painting > and preserving antennas??? > > If everyone used limited range, low gain, stacked folded dipoles, > then maybe so, but stacked folded dipoles are a low gain limited > range item. A 4-bay stacked dipole

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-08 Thread Paul Plack
: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry ocwarren2000 wrote: > Er.. uh... Excuse me, but why all this commotion about painting > and preserving antennas??? >

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-08 Thread Paul Finch
t: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry ocwarren2000 wrote: > Er.. uh... Excuse me, but why all this commotion about painting > and preserving antennas??? > > If everyone used limited range, low gain, stacked folded dipoles, > then maybe so, but st

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-09 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- On Fri, 5/9/08, Laryn Lohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Laryn Lohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and > Kry > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, May 9, 2008, 12:09 AM > --- In Repeater-Builder@yaho

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-09 Thread Nate Duehr
Paul Finch wrote: > Actually I looked up the Super Stationmaster and and they have one > that's rated at 9 DB at VHF. dBi or dBd? Very important. "DB" is a useless number without that third letter when rating antennas. (GRIN) I'd say generally that what you're describing is not physically p

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-09 Thread Paul Finch
ilder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry Paul Finch wrote: > Actually I looked up the Super Stationmaster and and they have one > that's rated at 9 DB at VHF. dBi or dBd? Very important. "DB" is a useless

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-09 Thread Nate Duehr
On May 9, 2008, at 9:13 PM, Laryn Lohman wrote: > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> Do a Google search for yourself, it's the first result that comes > up. The >> DB-228 is the same way, it about 44 feet long overall. >> > >> Paul Finch wrot

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-10 Thread Ron Wright
Paul ___ From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 12:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip I

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-10 Thread no6b
At 5/10/2008 04:36, you wrote: >Paul, > >This length always leads me to telling Hams that the 17 ft Comet does not >have the 8+ dbd gain the package says. I don't recall the package saying dBd, but their website clearly indicates 8.5 dBi @ 146 MHz. BTW, I measured the gain of the GP9 @ 440 MHz

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-10 Thread Paul Finch
Dang, must have misread something. Was in a hurry, link below Paul HYPERLINK "http://www.ke3ht.org/14691/specsheet_220-2n.pdf"http://www.ke3ht.org/14691/ specsheet_220-2n.pdf _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laryn Lohman Sent:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-10 Thread Paul Finch
@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry Dang, must have misread something. Was in a hurry, link below Paul HYPERLINK "http://www.ke3ht.org/14691/specsheet_220-2n.pdf"http://www.ke3ht.-org/14691 /-specsheet_-

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-11 Thread wd8chl
Paul Plack wrote: > Actually, in theory, a fiberglas-enclosed colinear array fed from one > end requires more elements and length to equal the gain of an > otherwise comparable colinear array fed at each element. The upper > elements of a Stationmaster are seeing less RF current than the ones > clo

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-04 Thread Ron Wright
This painting of antennas seems to be on many of our minds. Wonder what the antenna manufactures would recommend or what they use if any??? After you get beyond the sales person who swears their products are rock solid and don't need painting or additional protection then you might get someone

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-08 Thread Ron Wright
8:38 CDT >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote >and Kry > >Ron and gang: > >As Dick W7TIO noted, the antenna should be selected based on the desired >coverage range of >the rptr.

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-08 Thread Ron Wright
ld be preferred. Thanks for you input. 73, ron, n9ee/r >From: MCH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2008/05/07 Wed PM 02:12:33 CDT >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote >and Kry > &g

RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-08 Thread Paul Finch
amage. Paul _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wright Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 7:03 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry Joe, I agre

RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-09 Thread Gary Schafer
eater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry Ron, Remember that lightning not only hits the top of the tower but can come back off the tower and hit something else in it's way, I think I heard in around 150 foot

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-09 Thread Ron Wright
TED]> >Date: 2008/05/09 Fri PM 12:26:26 CDT >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote >and Kry > >Paul Finch wrote: >> Actually I looked up the Super Stationmaster and and they ha