Re: [Repeater-Builder] tkr820 repeater

2010-08-24 Thread Chris Carruba
http://www.repeater-builder.com/kenwood/pdfs/tkr-820-svc-man-large.pdf Best Regards, Chris Carruba Co-Admin irc.spidernet.org http://www.spidernet.org CompuTec Data Systems Custom Written Software, Networking, Forensic Data Recovery From: cberende To: Rep

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Comms SCR200A 220 receiver question

2010-08-24 Thread Joe
Hello Ross, I'm glad to hear that you are interested in repeaters! I hope that someone in your area elmers you so that the tradition can continue. Repeaters are a difficult thing to just jump into and the test equipment that is nice to have can get expensive. 73, Joe, K1ike On 8/24/2010

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Comms SCR200A 220 receiver question

2010-08-24 Thread Ross Johnson
Others experiencing this? The younger hams just don't seem to have the curiosity that I had years ago. 73, Joe, k1ike Except for me!!! And I thank this whole group for making it possible. Ross www.kc7rjk.net

Re: [Repeater-Builder] URL refresh

2010-08-24 Thread Rick Szajkowski
Thanks Scott thats info we can NOT lose ... Rick va3rzs On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Scott Zimmerman wrote: > > > I found a phone number for Glenn. I called and left a message offering > web space on the RB site for his 222 maxtrac conversion article. > Hopefully we'll get a positive respon

Re: [Repeater-Builder] URL refresh

2010-08-24 Thread Scott Zimmerman
I found a phone number for Glenn. I called and left a message offering web space on the RB site for his 222 maxtrac conversion article. Hopefully we'll get a positive response. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Mike Morris wrote: > The members.a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Comms SCR200A 220 receiver question

2010-08-24 Thread Ralph S. Turk
Try "Dans Small Parts and Kits.net" All one word (no spaces) He seems to have a lot of different trimmers listed. Ralph,W7HSG - Original Message - From: "Joe" To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 8:11:22 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Comms S

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Comms SCR200A 220 receiver question

2010-08-24 Thread Jamey Wright
Joe, No help on the caps but felt like commenting on the other part of your post. I have seen some of the same things. I have had people say that they want to help with the repeater but if you call they are never available. They always have some reason why they can't help yet they are the fi

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Unknown uvhf antenna

2010-08-24 Thread kerincom
nnels .   Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, 3A Murchison Street,Biloela.4715 Ph 0749922449 or 0409159932 or 0749922574 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au ---Original Message--- From: Stanley Stanukinos Date: 8/24/2010 9:48:09 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Rep

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Unknown uvhf antenna

2010-08-24 Thread Stanley Stanukinos
Have you tried to resonate it at 27 MHz? From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ian Wells Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 10:50 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Unknowen uvhf antenna Hi guys .I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-23 Thread Gordon Cooper
Another quirk. Sixty plus years ago in England, power factor was not the main concern. Many of the domestic radio receivers were transformerless and used half-wave rectification to obtain D.C. for the tubes. A consequence was a fair dose of D.C. flowing in the street power mains. Gordon ZL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] URL refresh

2010-08-23 Thread Mike Morris
The members.aol web server has been shut down since november of 2008. You must have found it somewhere else (and I'd like to see it as well). Mike WA6ILQ At 07:16 PM 08/22/10, you wrote: >Is there a refreshed URL for the site regarding Maxtrac conversions >to 222 MHz? I thought I surfed to the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Diplex Antenna Manual

2010-08-23 Thread Richard W. Solomon
I have a pdf copy of the Moto Diplex Manual. If it s needed I can upload it somewhere. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- >From: skipp025 >Sent: Aug 23, 2010 12:49 PM >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Diplex Antenna Manual > >Re: Motorola D

Re: [Repeater-Builder] URL refresh

2010-08-23 Thread Rick Szajkowski
if you can find the info I would be more then happy to host it Rick On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:16 PM, w5jr.mike wrote: > > > Is there a refreshed URL for the site regarding Maxtrac conversions to 222 > MHz? I thought I surfed to the site a few weeks ago but didn't bookmark it. > > Thanks > > Mi

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-23 Thread sbjohnston
WB6FLY wrote: >Actually, it's the other way around- sites with many linear power supplies >almost always have a worse power factor than those with switchers. As I think about it more, I'm seeing that it depends on how the switching supplies are designed. In general terms, cheapest supplies ha

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Low Band Antenna for both 6 & 10 meters.

2010-08-22 Thread John Gleichweit
Don't forget your toast, rice and playing cards, too. On 8/21/2010 9:22 PM, George Henry wrote: > And the spray bottle of water, and the newspaper... > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Morris" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 12:10

Re: [Repeater-Builder] made a rpt

2010-08-22 Thread petedcurtis
Translation from Brazilian Portuguese to English: Hello to all, Anyone have a circuit diagram of a simple Link - Repeater controller PC Board. The controller would interface a VHF Repeater made up of two GM300 mobiles to a third interface port for a UHF Link using a Motorola Maxtrac mobile radio.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] made a rpt

2010-08-22 Thread Doug Bade
From babelfish: Portugese to English... "ola (Hola = Hello.. which I think is what he indicated.. ) to all somebody would have a simple project of a plate repeater controller that could control two radios of VHF and plus one link in UHF, being 2 gm300 and one maxtrac of motorola" Doug KD

Re: [Repeater-Builder] made a rpt

2010-08-22 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Correct. - Original Message - From: "Gordon Cooper" To: Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] made a rpt > The gentleman's address is Brazil, you need Portugese, not Spanish. > > Gordon ZL1KL > > > -

Re: [Repeater-Builder] made a rpt

2010-08-22 Thread Chuck Kelsey
It is: Hello everyone anyone have a simple scheme of a controller card that could handle two repeater VHF radio plus a link on uhf, 2 and GM300 maxtrac of motorola. thanks Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "Rodrigo Lima" To: Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 10:21 AM Subject: [R

Re: [Repeater-Builder] made a rpt

2010-08-22 Thread Gordon Cooper
The gentleman's address is Brazil, you need Portugese, not Spanish. Gordon ZL1KL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Maxtrac Help

2010-08-22 Thread Bill Smith
Try a pull down resistor to ground. 1K or so maybe? From: ka9qjg To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 1:01:36 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Maxtrac Help   He dos go in the Programming and Set it Low but still

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-22 Thread Jim McLaughlin
er-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill > Power theft seldom goes undetected, I'll agree. > and the punishment is severe. Not always. I can cite where a customer dri

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Maxtrac Help

2010-08-22 Thread ka9qjg
: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Maxtrac Help In the RSS, hit F2, Radio Wide, then F9. You will see a list of pin-outs that you can select. One is PL/DPL & CSQ Det. You can set it High or Low 73, Dick, W1KSZ ,___

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-22 Thread Eric Lemmon
- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Smith Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 10:25 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill The answer is simple. The electri

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-22 Thread Chuck Kelsey
ered meter. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Bill Smith To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill The answer is simple. The electric company refuses to provi

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-22 Thread Bill Smith
. From: Chuck Kelsey To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 12:11:38 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill >  Power theft seldom goes undetected, I'll agree. > and the punishment is se

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-22 Thread Eric Lemmon
ilder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Horlick Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 9:35 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill And if the "capacitor trick" did work, would this not be theft? lh

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-22 Thread Larry Horlick
And if the "capacitor trick" did work, would this not be theft? lh On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Chuck Kelsey wrote: > > > "Like a bad penny, this "urban legend" just keeps coming back." -- Eric > Lemmon. > > Yes, I agree. However, the post that I made (and started all of this again) > > did

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-22 Thread Chuck Kelsey
"Like a bad penny, this "urban legend" just keeps coming back." -- Eric Lemmon. Yes, I agree. However, the post that I made (and started all of this again) didn't make claim as to whether the "capacitor trick" worked or didn't work. I feel that it has no impact, unless you are being billed for

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-22 Thread Eric Lemmon
Like a bad penny, this "urban legend" just keeps coming back. Since a kWh meter, whether mechanical or electronic, measures only "real" power, the addition of a capacitor- which adds capacitive reactance- cannot affect real power. A residential customer will never see a reduction in the amount of

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Maxtrac Help

2010-08-21 Thread ka9qjg
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Maxtrac Help I haven't done one in a few years, but if it's a conventional radio he can do it in the RSS. 73, Dick, W1KSZ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-21 Thread Timothy Lewis
the penalty to the tune of @ $3000 per month. From: Kevin King To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, August 21, 2010 9:14:31 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Adding capacitors to lower electric bill My Elmer, W6NTK (SK) his son worked for

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Spectra Help

2010-08-21 Thread Frank C.
Thanks Charles. I found it with a bad RF board. Now I swapped stuff around and now have two 45w Spectras running with FAIL 01/90's Regards, -Frank C. On Aug 21, 2010, at 8:54 PM, Charles Miller wrote: > Frank, > > We had the same problem with some of our units. What we found was there was

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Low Band Antenna for both 6 & 10 meters.

2010-08-21 Thread George Henry
And the spray bottle of water, and the newspaper... - Original Message - From: "Mike Morris" To: Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Low Band Antenna for both 6 & 10 meters. > At 09:27 PM 08/20/10, you wrote: > >>

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Spectra Help

2010-08-21 Thread Charles Miller
Frank, We had the same problem with some of our units. What we found was there was a problem with the audio amp. Some of the acid got to the traces and caused problems with the data signals to the audio amp. We removed the audio amp, cleaned the board, replaced the amp, and most of the time the p

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread Tim Sawyer
On Aug 21, 2010, at 6:38 PM, men...@pa.net wrote: > How long has the pager been in operation? > If it has been there for a long time either something changed in the > pager setup or something changed on your end. > > We've been having many problems at the site (including a broken tower cross a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread Tim Sawyer
If that was the issue I'd think every other two meter repeater on the hill (and there are many) would have the my same problem. But they don't. -- Tim :wq On Aug 21, 2010, at 7:27 PM, larynl2 wrote: > > > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Tim Sawyer wrote: > > > > > Basically, there

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-21 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Well, I tried a search and came up empty. Maybe it was another group. Oh well. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Chuck Kelsey To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread men...@pa.net
elch. As the day >> >> progresses it gets worse. >> >> > -- >> >> > Tim >> >> > :wq >> >> > >> >> > On Aug 20, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Chuck Kelsey wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> I agree, if yo

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-21 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Guess I should have done a message archive search. I didn't mean to start all this. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Gary Schafer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-21 Thread Gary Schafer
small business' is a scam. You save nothing on your bill! 73 Gary K4FMX _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bon & Hal Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 2:39 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [R

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread Tim Sawyer
Apparently, from what the tech said, this one is slated to go off the air in coming months, too. But I can't wait that long as our repeater is basically useless at this point. And you never know, it might take them longer than that to actually kill it. -- Tim :wq On Aug 21, 2010, at 1:02 PM, M

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread Tim Sawyer
The meter reads P-P just like the scope. I generally set dev with the meter and confirm it on the scope. But your right, this really doesn't matter. I was just making sure they didn't have the dev out of wack and from what I gather here they don't. We're going up Tuesday with another repeater a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread MCH
he >> >> mornings. The paging transmitter can be going off like crazy and >> >> the repeater will be totally clean in carrier squelch. As the day >> >> progresses it gets worse. >> >> > -- >> >> > Tim >> >> > :wq >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread MCH
There is something wrong with your SM, then, as it should not show a deviation of 15 kHz on a signal that is 15 kHz P-P unless it's only deviating in one direction from the carrier. The +/- 4 kHz sounds about right. But, it should be centered around the carrier frequency of 157.740 (Or, on 157.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread Tim Sawyer
; >> > Tim > >> > :wq > >> > > >> > On Aug 20, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Chuck Kelsey wrote: > >> > > >> >> I agree, if you don't hear anything else in the mix, and it pretty much > >> >> happens for the full length of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-21 Thread Bon & Hal
This is a reply to the power issue from a friend of mine: Yes, it's true. Heavy industry uses this technique to reduce their electrical utility costs. Steel production is an example. Some utility companies require that customers with large inductive loads use and pay for capacitor banks to corr

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread Tim Sawyer
My service monitor (HP 8924C) has both a deviation meter and an oscilloscope to display the demodulated audio. Both the numbers on the dev meter and the peak to peak on the scope read about 15 Khz. I see another paging system (152.84) that shows the same 15 Khz dev, and a bunch of other ones

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread Tim Sawyer
- > > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer > > Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 1:33 PM > > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation > >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread MCH
Before you said 15 kHz P-P (IOW bandwidth). Now you're saying 15 kHz deviation. 15 kHz deviation would be way too high. Joe M. Tim Sawyer wrote: > > > I haven't noticed a hum. There's more of a scream on it. > > It's POCSAG. Is that analog? > > The dev is basically 15 Khz but there is, wha

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-21 Thread Bill Smith
to fool.  Bill   From: Chuck Kelsey To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 8:14:14 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill That's my take, but someone on here insisted otherwise based on testing he had done. I spok

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread men...@pa.net
gt;> > >> > On Aug 20, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Chuck Kelsey wrote: >> > >> >> I agree, if you don't hear anything else in the mix, and it pretty much >> >> happens for the full length of the page, it's likely a spur on the paging >> >>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hallicrafter Radios

2010-08-21 Thread Wesley Bazell
Correction CRX-3 Not many made - Original Message - From: wesleybazell To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 2:03 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Hallicrafter Radios Hello, Am looking for a Service Manual for an CRX-1.Have collected thi

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread Jeff DePolo
f Tim Sawyer > Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 1:33 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation > > > > I haven't noticed a hum. There's more of a scream on it. > > It's POCSAG. Is that analog? &

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread Tim Sawyer
I haven't noticed a hum. There's more of a scream on it. It's POCSAG. Is that analog? The dev is basically 15 Khz but there is, what I going to call splatter that is like 30 Khz. -- Tim :wq On Aug 21, 2010, at 10:14 AM, MCH wrote: > Many times (but not all), there will be a grungy sound wit

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread Tim Sawyer
Yes the repeater has CTCSS but I turn it off for testing. When on the CTCSS will false but that's not what I'm talking about when I say that the repeater sometimes keys up after the beginning of the page. I'm going to take another repeater which has a different 1st IF up and test with just as

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread MCH
Many times (but not all), there will be a grungy sound with the spur. Think of a very loud 60 cycle hum. And 15 kHz is higher than normal. I think the typical shift is 5 kHz (+/- 2.5 kHz) if we are talking about digital paging. Analog might be 15 kHz, as the bandwidth limit would be 16 kHz. Jo

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread Matthew Kaufman
Tim Sawyer wrote: > > > It seems to pick up most of the page. Occasionally the beginning is > missing or it will get just the very end. It always seems to drop at > the same time as the page. > Does the repeater run CTCSS on the input? If so, is the behavior the same if CTCSS is off? (CTCSS mig

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread Tim Sawyer
gt; >> Chuck > >> WB2EDV > >> > >> > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "MCH" > >> To: > >> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:46 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculatio

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread Tim Sawyer
I'm not sure what you mean by grungy. What are you getting at? -- Tim :wq On Aug 21, 2010, at 6:59 AM, MCH wrote: > Does it have a 'grungy' sound to it when you hear it on your input?

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-21 Thread Kevin King
ailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill > > > > > One company supplying power factor correction capacitors promotes their use on inductive loads only, where

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread MCH
>> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "MCH" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation >> >> >>> Could be a spur. Can you hear any other au

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Telewave

2010-08-21 Thread Steven M Hodell
The cable length can be tricky. (I use all Type-N connectors and Andrew FSJ2 Velocity of .83) • First you have to find the velocity factor of the cable you are using. • Then you get the ¼ wave length in free space and multiply by the velocity factor. • Then you

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Low Band Antenna for both 6 & 10 meters.

2010-08-21 Thread men...@pa.net
The Motorola document is based on the use of the Spectrun base loaded antennas sold by Mother. The Spectrum antenna is a series coil arrangement, not a shunt fed or tapped coil; this is very important! The chart works quite well for the Spectrum antennas and will probably work for any other

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
WM4B _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 9:37 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation Another tidbit about this problem is that it&#x

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation I'm in Huntington Beach. -- Tim :wq On Aug 20, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Mike Besemer (WM4B) wrote: Tim, Where are you located? 73, Mike WM4B _ From: <mailto:Repeater

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread Tim Sawyer
- > From: "MCH" > To: > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:46 PM > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation > > >> Could be a spur. Can you hear any other audio with the page? (ever) >> >> Joe M. >> >> Tim Sawyer wr

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread Tim Sawyer
That's how I found 157.74. We're going back up on Tuesday to look some more. -- Tim :wq On Aug 21, 2010, at 4:52 AM, Joe wrote: > I've had luck finding these kinds of problems by bringing a spectrum > analyzer to the site and connecting it to an antenna. I look at > 10-20Mhz sections of the sp

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread Joe
I've had luck finding these kinds of problems by bringing a spectrum analyzer to the site and connecting it to an antenna. I look at 10-20Mhz sections of the spectrum and try to find a spike that comes up at the same time as the interference. It is time consuming and dependent upon the interf

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-21 Thread Chuck Kelsey
> > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Bon & Hal" wrote: >> >> Bill: >> >> Check this out. Is It possible that the device might actually reduce >> electrical usage? >> >> Hal >> - Original Message - >>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Low Band Antenna for both 6 & 10 meters.

2010-08-20 Thread Mike Morris
At 09:27 PM 08/20/10, you wrote: > > skipp025 wrote: (big chunk cut out) >Put "Great" in front of your name yelled out loud and people >in a movie house will often throw toilet paper across the room. > >(It's OK if you don't get the reference and those of you who >do, please seek professional he

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Low Band Antenna for both 6 & 10 meters.

2010-08-20 Thread Mike Morris
At 07:49 PM 08/20/10, you wrote: >skipp025 wrote: > > The Catholic Church says only the rhythm method is allowed. >I SOMEHOW don't think that 'method' will help us in this situation. >Although that's how my third child came along. (3 of 3) A BOY BTW! >(Yea, Me!!) > > >> P.S. I do have a copy

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-20 Thread Tim Sawyer
com > [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 11:49 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation > > > > > > No, I never, ever have heard any other

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-20 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Tim, Where are you located? 73, Mike WM4B _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 11:49 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-20 Thread Tim Sawyer
No, I never, ever have heard any other audio. But there is time when I don't hear it at all... as if it takes two signals to occur. -- Tim :wq On Aug 20, 2010, at 7:46 PM, MCH wrote: > Could be a spur. Can you hear any other audio with the page? (ever) > > Joe M. > > Tim Sawyer wrote: >> >>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-20 Thread Bon & Hal
Bill: Check this out. Is It possible that the device might actually reduce electrical usage? Hal - Original Message - From: Paul Plack To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-20 Thread Gary
er" To: Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:06 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill > You won't see any difference. The electric meter reads true power not VA. > > 73 > Gary K4FMX > >> -Original Message- >> From:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Low Band Antenna for both 6 & 10 meters.

2010-08-20 Thread MCH
Hmmm... maybe it was an open that was presented rather than a short... Whichever make the off-frequency antenna appear to not be there. Joe M. Scott Zimmerman wrote: > skipp025 wrote: > > The Catholic Church says only the rhythm method is allowed. > I SOMEHOW don't think that 'method' will help

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Low Band Antenna for both 6 & 10 meters.

2010-08-20 Thread MCH
It's been a while since we needed these, but I used to make them all the time for low band fire (33.70 and 46.38). As I recall, the stub is a short to the opposite frequency - making the antenna appear to not be there. Hence, all the power goes to the 'on frequency antenna'. Congrats on the thi

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Intermod Calculation

2010-08-20 Thread MCH
2A-B solving for once for A and once for B. Or, to make it more clear (maybe), the sum of your receiver and half the difference between the two (IOW, the frequency directly half way between two two others), and the sum of the full difference plus the paging transmitter frequency. Putting it an

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-20 Thread Chuck Kelsey
nt: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation > Could be a spur. Can you hear any other audio with the page? (ever) > > Joe M. > > Tim Sawyer wrote: >> >> >> It seems to pick up most of the page. Occasionally the begi

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-20 Thread MCH
Could be a spur. Can you hear any other audio with the page? (ever) Joe M. Tim Sawyer wrote: > > > It seems to pick up most of the page. Occasionally the beginning is > missing or it will get just the very end. It always seems to drop at the > same time as the page. > > -- > Tim > :wq > >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Intermod Calculation

2010-08-20 Thread Tim Sawyer
I'll watch those. How did you calculate them? -- Tim :wq On Aug 20, 2010, at 5:38 PM, MCH wrote: > Most likely suspects would be 151.140 and 170.940 MHz. > > Joe M. > > Tim Sawyer wrote: > > I have paging intermod from 157.740 Mhz. My receiver is on 144.540 Mhz. I'm > > 100% sure there is anot

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-20 Thread Tim Sawyer
It seems to pick up most of the page. Occasionally the beginning is missing or it will get just the very end. It always seems to drop at the same time as the page. -- Tim :wq On Aug 20, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Chuck Kelsey wrote: > Does the entire page happen, or does it abruptly stop part way thro

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: "Jesus Nuts"

2010-08-20 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Ah. we called those 'Chicken Sticks'. 73, Mike WM4B _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Al Wolfe Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: "Jesus Nuts"

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-20 Thread Paul Plack
One company supplying power factor correction capacitors promotes their use on inductive loads only, where it might be a legitimate claim: http://www.greenenergycube.com/index.php?support-documentation 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: Chuck Kelsey To: Repeater-Builder

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-20 Thread Chuck Kelsey
at an electronic meter wouldn't be "fooled." Of course shifting the PF to an extreme would be a basis for utility company action. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "Gary Schafer" To: Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:06 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Build

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Adding capacitors to lower electric bill

2010-08-20 Thread Gary Schafer
You won't see any difference. The electric meter reads true power not VA. 73 Gary K4FMX > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- > buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 8:00 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yaho

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Intermod Calculation

2010-08-20 Thread MCH
Most likely suspects would be 151.140 and 170.940 MHz. Joe M. Tim Sawyer wrote: > I have paging intermod from 157.740 Mhz. My receiver is on 144.540 Mhz. I'm > 100% sure there is another transmitter involved in the mix because sometimes > the pager is transmitting and I have no interference.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: the non religious "Jesus Nuts"

2010-08-20 Thread Richard
tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net "A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves." Edward R. Murrow _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ka9qjg Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 4:36 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.co

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Intermod Calculation

2010-08-20 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Does the entire page happen, or does it abruptly stop part way through some of the time? Partial page would indicate to me that another transmitter is in the mix and dropping before the pager does. However, I had a situation where there were four paging sites scattered in the county on the same

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: the non religious "Jesus Nuts"

2010-08-20 Thread ka9qjg
And I am the Nut who added to this Post Only because I did not know what it Meant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_nut 73 De Don KA9QJG From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of skipp025 Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 4:38 PM To:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Intermod Calculation

2010-08-20 Thread Jeff DePolo
Before we get into the math, an important question that needs to be answered is whether or not this mix occurs when your repeater transmitter is unkeyed. --- Jeff WN3A > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:repeater-buil.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: the non religious "Jesus Nuts"

2010-08-20 Thread Paul Plack
eases, when 90% of the issues are caused by the usersOK, 99%... ;^) 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: cruising7...@aol.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: the non religious "Jesu

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: the non religious "Jesus Nuts"

2010-08-20 Thread cruising7388
The ultimate act of courage in piloting a helicopter is accepting that the Jesus nut was probably supplied by the lowest bidder. In a message dated 8/20/2010 2:39:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, skipp...@yahoo.com writes: Re: the non religious "Jesus Nuts" > They were also called "Jesus n

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT the non religious "Jesus Nuts"

2010-08-20 Thread Mark
That's the reference I remember as well Skipp Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [ On Behalf Of skipp025 I thought a Jesus Nut was atop a helicopter holding things on or together. If it came off or failed, you normally had an expedited trip to Je

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola style Rack "Clip Nuts"

2010-08-20 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
to:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 5:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola style Rack "Clip Nuts" [SNIP} They were also called "Jesus nuts" by my cowork

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola style Rack "Clip Nuts"

2010-08-20 Thread La Rue Communications
[SNIP} They were also called "Jesus nuts" by my coworkers, probably named in a spontaneously outburst by some guy who was about to need a tetanus shot. [/SNIP] So much for drinking a tasty beverage while reading some of these posts...excuse me while I clean up. John Hymes La Rue Communica

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola style Rack "Clip Nuts"

2010-08-20 Thread Paul Plack
e - From: Chuck Kelsey To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola style Rack "Clip Nuts" I agree with Skip. I always considered Tinnerman nuts as a one-sided unit, often used a few years back

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola style Rack "Clip Nuts"

2010-08-20 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I agree with Skip. I always considered Tinnerman nuts as a one-sided unit, often used a few years back in the automotive industry. They also called them speed nuts. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "skipp025" To: Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builde

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