Re: [RDD] Rivendell distros

2016-08-29 Thread Seth Stevenson
I appreciate everyone's input. Personally I would mirror the centos appliance to keep things similar. I am putting together a debian install with mate right now that can be used for packaging. I wish I knew how to do all that. I think mate is a more intuitive interface then gnome 3. I can't get

Re: [RDD] Rivendell distros

2016-08-29 Thread Cowboy
On Monday 29 August 2016 04:49:31 pm Andy Higginson wrote: > I think the older Centos 6 desktop is better than the newer Centos 7. Gnome2 vs. Gnome3. Gnome3 clearly sucks. ( unless you *like* smart phone "swipe" on a non-touch-screen with a mouse ) so I've been trying XFC at Fred's

Re: [RDD] Rivendell distros

2016-08-29 Thread Andy Higginson
Hi, I think you are on the right tracks here with having all of the Rivendell base components in one package and the GUI in another. That way you have the breakdown of software needed for both a stand alone machine and a Client / Server setup. Has anyone looked at Launchpad yet? This is the

Re: [RDD] Rivendell distros

2016-08-29 Thread Rob Landry
Would people stop driving if you told them that it was a Linux running their car ? No, but they might if it were Windows (excuse me for a moment; I have to reboot the car)! I recall reading a story a while back about the Royal Navy using Windows on a new submarine, with the headline "Das

Re: [RDD] Rivendell distros

2016-08-29 Thread Cowboy
On Monday 29 August 2016 04:32:58 pm David Klann wrote: > That is, maybe a > "rivendell-server" package that would contain just the "headless" > components, and maybe a "rivendell-client" package that contains the GUI > components. > > Another option (and likely highly desirable) would be to

Re: [RDD] Rivendell distros

2016-08-29 Thread Andy Higginson
Hi, I've only just come to this thread so I'll add my 2 cents worth. Having been playing with the existing Tryphon repository, I've been using the Mate edition of Linux Mint. Basically this is because the v17 Mints were based on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and the system would be well supported for 5

Re: [RDD] Rivendell distros

2016-08-29 Thread David Klann
tl;dr: What's the best way to package Rivendell for Debian? I'm willing to help with the Rivendell packaging. I think it needs some community discussion. I like some things about the way in which the Tryphon packages are split up, but I think it needs a little more thought and attention. The

Re: [RDD] Rivendell distros

2016-08-29 Thread Cowboy
On Monday 29 August 2016 12:02:48 pm you wrote: > Well that's my point really. If there is a live cd then it doesn't matter > if it is Debian, Ubuntu, Centos, or whatever else. It doesn't matter if it > is windows or linux. It just works. We're on the same page. For a very long time, on

Re: [RDD] Rivendell distros

2016-08-29 Thread Cowboy
On Monday 29 August 2016 03:11:47 pm Lorne Tyndale wrote: > A car that runs Linux?!  Where can I buy one! Now that would be a > selling point! By the time it gets to the consumer, there's very little of any OS left. Radios seem to be windows based, but the real guts of the vehicles when I was

Re: [RDD] Rivendell distros

2016-08-29 Thread Seth Stevenson
David, I should be able to get you an iso shortly. Are you willing to package Rivendell as a whole, or just add your scripts? Seth On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 12:07 PM, David Klann wrote: > Hey Seth, > > A copy of the ISO image would be a good starting point. I could place >

Re: [RDD] Rivendell distros

2016-08-29 Thread Lorne Tyndale
A car that runs Linux?! Where can I buy one! Now that would be a selling point! > > > On Monday 29 August 2016 10:59:47 am Seth Stevenson wrote: > > A lot of people have interest, but shy > > away when Linux is even mentioned. > > Then don't mention it ! > > That's the whole point of

Re: [RDD] Rivendell distros

2016-08-29 Thread David Klann
Hey Seth, A copy of the ISO image would be a good starting point. I could place the systemd files, and if you have them started, could update the Debian packaging files to include the systemd stuff. I could supply you with an FTP server on which to drop the ISO image. Or I'd be happy to snag it

Re: [RDD] Rivendell distros

2016-08-29 Thread Seth Stevenson
Thanks David. Do you want the iso I'm working on, or how would you want to proceed? Seth On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, David Klann wrote: > I'll chime in on this thread... > > I've recently taken the Tryphon 2.10.3 package and added systemd unit > files for Debian

Re: [RDD] Rivendell distros

2016-08-29 Thread Seth Stevenson
Cowboy, Well that's my point really. If there is a live cd then it doesn't matter if it is Debian, Ubuntu, Centos, or whatever else. It doesn't matter if it is windows or linux. It just works. What I was getting at is that with Windows you pretty much click and install. With a live cd this is as

Re: [RDD] Rivendell distros

2016-08-29 Thread Cowboy
On Monday 29 August 2016 10:59:47 am Seth Stevenson wrote: > A lot of people have interest, but shy > away when Linux is even mentioned. Then don't mention it ! That's the whole point of an appliance. Would people stop driving if you told them that it was a Linux running their car ? --

Re: [RDD] Rivendell distros

2016-08-29 Thread David Klann
I'll chime in on this thread... I've recently taken the Tryphon 2.10.3 package and added systemd unit files for Debian Jessie. I'd be happy to contribute those to the new package (for whatever Rivendell version you all decide on). You can find the unit files (*.service and rivendell.target) at

Re: [RDD] Rivendell distros

2016-08-29 Thread Seth Stevenson
Geoff, I almost have a working version of the latest Rivendell with Debian Jessie. There was some issues with Ubuntu and Rivendell that Wayne Merrick was addressing, so I am going with Debian. It seems to be easier to setup. I am using the gnome interface, but like Mate better as well, so I might

Re: [RDD] Rivendell distros

2016-08-29 Thread Fred Gleason
On Aug 29, 2016, at 01:33, Geoff Barkman wrote: > Remastering the Ubuntu Iso image was quite time consuming and failed > frequently. Sounds quite similar to the experience of mastering CentOS Kickstart ISOs for Broadcast Appliance. All of the fun of kicking a whale