Overall, despite something I wrote earlier, I do like the changes made to the look of the site at Uncensored, but something bugged me, and I didn't want to write anything more until I could put my finger on it (since I'd rather be constructive).
When you view messages in Bulletin Board mode
It might be something of an idiosyncracy of mine to want fewer graphics and careful use of text. Or maybe I have come under the influence of Google's sense of aesthetics, I dunno. But the spacing thing is definitely calling my attention.
Some icons don't bother me at all... the B, I and U (and
IG, I think Uncensored is not seending e-mails again.
Hrm... but I was able to send an e-mail to an account outside of Uncensored,
so, maybe I'm wrong.
Sat Nov 07 2009 18:16:52 EST from davew @ Uncensored Subject: Wiki Test
Now thats a problem since I can't go to the room to Zap it.
Zap it via ssh if you want.
Welcome back, davew, however briefly.
Wed Sep 09 2009 18:45:31 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored
I don't think there's a good reason to call c inferior. One won't reach
the
Didn't call C inferior, I called C++ inferior. (To other OO languages.)
Heh... that's because C++ is more of a Generic
I do not know of any statistics (although IG might be able to pull some
from how people use Uncensored), but I've used the following browsers:
Chrome
IE 6, 7
Firefox 2, 3
and I've tried to use a PDA browser, but WebCit isn't quite friendly for
that. I didn't really
I love the comments in some of these commits.
An analogous situation might involve profanity from me.
Yes. Yes they do.
(I'm staying out of this... 'right tool for the job', and all that).
*glares as LS*
I haven't been getting messages... maybe I need to seed?
Oh, there we go!
Sep 27 2008 9:10am from dothebart @uncnsrd
Subject: N~ trouble...
Ok, I've researched the problem with our spanish speaking friends a
little.
I've sent myself
message 1
message 2
if you enter a Ntilde; letter, it immediately crashes.
Thank goodness!
(Incidentally, I *never* use the '_s' functions if I can help it... 'n'
is good enough for me. Better yet, since I primarily use C++, I just use
a string class, which is even safer).
Have you tested the updated server against the released webcit?
Sounds good to me, then, if you didn't see any problems.
Eh, since we're starting to drift into this topic in the Music room on
Uncensored, I thought I'd drag it here.
Someone uploaded a file over there, then said it was all nice and
available and everything... except it was uploaded to a room on a
completely different system.
So,
Yep, the '16' stands for the number of bits to a character. Pretty
unpleasant.
Queasyinstall fails to install on Cygwin:
checking for curl_version in -lcurl... no
configure: error: libcurl was not found and is required. More info:
http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/installation:start
This is especially strange as libcurl is provided by Citadel. Note that it
did not seem to
Okay, cygwin gets past libcurl, but you'll love this next one.
Citadel fails to install:
configure: error: libcurl was not found and is required. More info:
http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/installation:start
Tue May 27 2008 20:45:15 EDT from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
urgh. Great... Seems we are getting a lot of dependancy issues lately. I
suppose its a factor of the expanded platform set 8-(
Indubitably.
That's why we need to come up with some reliable way to automate builds when
source has
Wed May 28 2008 07:07:50 EDT from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All we need is a cron job on each build platform that gets the latest Queasy
install, configures a build environment, runs the Queasy Install and then
posts a message to a room.
If queasy completes OK then the message reports the plaform and
Tue May 27 2008 02:29:08 EDT from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: libicial / cygwin / tzdata
does cygwin have a tzdata package that delivers /usr/share/zoneinfo?
Yes.
Tue May 27 2008 07:50:32 EDT from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:libicial / cygwin / tzdata
whats its output to uname -a? or... configure.in does $host...
whats the output there?
uname -a:
CYGWIN_NT-5.1 user-cd0756c08d 1.5.25(0.156/4/2) 2008-04-17 12:11 i686 Cygwin
Not sure how to
Sun May 25 2008 14:00:28 EDT from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fleeb - in best interests of speeding things along and helping, would you
like me to do the build and then send the files to you?
I successfully compiled the files already, I think. I want to try ensuring
the dependencies are where
Sun May 25 2008 09:47:33 EDT from IGnatius T [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was right! I was right!
But you were wrong about something else -- specifically, the bit about your
contributions being meager. There are no small contributions. Everyone
brings something to the party.
Well, I
Sat May 24 2008 09:34:02 EDT from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry... I cannot resist - I thought that you were the build master?
Naw, I'm the grudging master of setup, for Windows, not the build master.
But, now that you've mentioned this, let's talk about my qualifications, and
why I'm pointing
And mine in green.
Sat May 24 2008 09:42:38 EDT from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My comments are in blue..
Sat May 24 2008 08:32:30 AM EDT from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, there are quite a few problems with Citadel on Cygwin using
Easyinstall:
* libsieve requires a ___STRING macro to be defined.
Sat May 24 2008 23:45:57 EDT from IGnatius T [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ironically, when I look at Citadel, I see so much more potential, or rather
so much more that it could be used for - but that is neither here nor there
at the moment. Remind me and we can cover it later if you're
Sat May 24 2008 23:46:17 EDT from IGnatius T [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So ... from what I'm reading here ... it sounds like y'all want me to
reinstate Queasy Install?
I never knew you stopped it. But then, I hadn't been using it.
Still, I think, if you want to track problems with Easy
So far, my first forays into compiling Citadel on cygwin haven't worked, but
I didn't have a lot of time to work on it.
Perhaps over the weekend I can get more done.
I suspect I don't have everything installed that Citadel requires.
Hmm.. Windows installer, eh?
Well, I guess I should look at this, then. I'm probably the grudging master
of installing things on Windows.
Thu May 22 2008 07:51:04 EDT from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hrm... I really need to get my new computer soon, so I can install cygwin,
build Citadel, test it, then create an installer for it.
I use VirtualBox on my ubuntu desktop and then perform the builds under
something as mundane as Windows
Fri May 16 2008 15:33:21 EDT from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IG,
I may have fixed the message echoes/ mirrors.
I had Uncensored configured with a node name of uncensored and of
course it should be uncnsrd
Interesting... I'll check Fleeb.Net.
Apr 22 2008 6:25am from dothebart @uncnsrd
Subject: Re:Citadel commit log: revision 6209
ok, so gcc on apple doesn't like this:
int foo (long *a) { *a = 5; return 22;}
void bar (long a, long b) {printf(%ld %ld, a, b);}
long b = 77;
bar
I see. I was focused on the int/long problem, and didn't notice the
other problem.
Better to call foo separately, storing the result in a variable to be
used in bar. A shame you have to use another variable, though, but
probably safer.
Currently, the reply button nukes Microsoft's headquarters.
IG uses it a lot.
Yeah, I should use the hold mechanism.
Welcome to the dark side.
*raises an eyebrow*
Ugh... g'luck with that.
I have yet to get WebCit and Apache to play nicely together, at least as
far as handling chat sessions.
Thu Jan 17 2008 06:32:06 UTC from IGnatius T [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Citadel commit log: revision 5948fleeb: I know you and/or Mr. Mel are sending mail to Uncensored using SMTP-AUTH on a regular basis, so please let me know immediately if the problem resurfaces.Will do. Mr. Mel
For whatever it's worth, Melvin's access to e-mail (as far as sending it)
has been spotty. This morning, he could not authenticate SMTP here. Yet,
last night he could.
When in doubt, shift the blame on a supporting library.
(I am joking, in case it isn't obvious).
Tue Jan 15 2008 00:26:16 EST from IGnatius T [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got a complaint last week from a user who couldn't perform authenticated SMTP using Thunderbird. I tested it and sure enough, it was busted. I just did a quick rebuild of the whole citserver from the latest svn and installed, and
For clarification, 'Queasy' is a contraction of 'Quick' and 'Easy'.
I don't think I happen to have one. Likely, I would find something that
looks similar and tweak the colors.
Fri 19 Oct 2007 01:43:41 PM EDT from [EMAIL PROTECTED] jeu 18 oct 2007 16:32:10 EDT de [EMAIL PROTECTED] What would you like to change about the color of the left iconsbar?I don't know exactly. It isn't only the color. I find this left iconsbar lack of dynamism and contrast, it's too
I was wondering if we were stepping back in time a bit.
I take it, for( i=0; buf[i]!=0; i++ ) is not good for some reason?
Gads... what does 'unix://' mean, objectively?
I mean, not having any context whatsoever, when you see 'unix://', and
figure it is some kind of a uniform resource location, what the hell does
that mean? 'file://' makes sense... it's a path to a file, but...
'unix://'? WTF?
If you're attempting to port Citadel to Windows, however, you're touched.
There's a bit of a difference.
And that answers that question.
Here's the problem, for the curious:user_ops.c: In function `start_chkpwd_daemon':user_ops.c:614: error: storage size of 'filestats' isn't knownuser_ops.c:619: warning: implicit declaration of function `stat'user_ops.c:614: warning: unused variable `filestats'gmake: *** [user_ops.o] Error 1Easy
Looks like it's working peachy-fine now, for FreeBSD.I was able to update the installation without issue this time.
Well, I'm thinking it might be nice to upgrade just for the shiny newness
of it all.
I suspect his concern involves disclosing the security threat before there's a chance to close it.
*donning his Captain Obvious hat*
Will someone be able to code a 'browser' that provides a request for an in-use session ID, potentially hijacking someone else's session?
I mentioned this idea elsewhere, but in case anyone else wanted to
comment...
Uncensored has lately had this problem where, occasionally, people cannot
log in due to a DoS event.
The event usually seems to involve someone logging into Uncensored
multiple times through the web
The world is clamoring for POP4.
Are those complaints posted anywhere, or just hanging out somewhere in a
mail-file?
Wed 27 Dec 2006 08:10:36 AM EST from [EMAIL PROTECTED] debian.citadel.org is online now. i'd appreciate some review and critisms ;-) The word 'I' is always capitalized in proper English.And 'critisms' is spelled 'criticisms'.But you probably didn't mean for anyone to review or critique your
Mon 25 Dec 2006 10:12:10 PM EST from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dog Pound BBS II) Silly question...if ctdlsvc is inside of the citserver, and citserver crashes, how will it restart itself?Not having seen the code, I'm guessing it works like this...When citserver starts, it does some initial setup of
Well, it is free, so I suppose you're simply saying that it's not worth
my time.
That might be true, but I want to be able to detail why it sucks.
Conceptually, it really should be better than a unix emulation over
Windows. But if the implementation is so awful as to be unusable,
1) Any AJAX application could have this problem, yes.
2) It's still asynchronous, in that you could have other events
requesting other types of information at the same time. You're only
attempting to synchronize a class of events.
3) There might already be something to do
For the sake of clarification, when you say 'a unix timezone', what do
you mean?
So far, all the literature I've read suggests that the two are the same,
but obviously you have something else in mind... perhaps a specific
concern that I'm missing.
Hmm.. actually, that database is supposed to be standard on Linux and
other unixy operating systems.
I say use TZ... if someone *isn't* using it, at least you can point to
something that says, 'Hey, that's the standard!'.
You want that kind of pickiness in a distribution.
I think they're doing the right thing.
Yeah, obviously this BBS we're using isn't working at all. We never get
messages across to each other.. nobody ever can read what I'm writing...
That looks amusing from the text-client perspective, but it does little
towards advancing the Citadel software in any way.
Could we kindly find Mr. Dadwoi and remove both of his ventricles?
IG, you updated webcit.h recently (7 May) to #include malloc.h. This
breaks FreeBSD (at least, it breaks on my FreeBSD, which is a little
older, but I suspect it breaks current ones, too).
FreeBSD defines malloc() in stdlib.h (at least, in my version of it).
Does the whole
You may want to use this:
AC_CHECK_HEADER(malloc.h, AC_DEFINE(HAVE_MALLOC_H,,[do we have
malloc.h?]))
to check for the existance of malloc.h. At least, this is what I found
from this:
http://lists.danga.com/pipermail/memcached/2003-August/55.html
I hope
You're not considering the use of that, are you?
Slick is nice and all that, but if it's as pokey as your average Java
GUI, and as huge and bloaty as you've described, I don't know if that's
such a great idea.
I thought one of the benefits of using something like AJAX was that
Now that I re-read IG's posting, I see where I sort of went off.
'Their AJAX stuff' translated to my mind as 'this AJAX library'... which
is waay off from what he actually wrote.
Well, it's always good to have a clear idea where you're going.
That said, it's kind of hard to know that sometimes. You might know
where you're going right now, but for long-lasting projects that flex,
shift, and change, it can be a little harder to figure that out.
Still,
Yep, that's probably it.I did have an /etc/inittab, left over from a previous EasyInstall.I can try this again with a virtual machine that I built.
Well, so far, no significant problems.EasyInstall worked more smoothly this time than at any other time before with FreeBSD 5.4. It didn't fail at the 'dialog' boxes.However, it failed to start the citadel services (which is fine, as I'd rather start it from my own scripts), even though it
Hmm... looking over my logs, I do not yet see something like that.
I didn't have an opportunity to try kdbg, so I can't really compare.
I wonder if there's a way to push momentum in the right direction...
Well, then, I wonder if there's a *realistic* way to push momentum in the
right direction.
Like taking over the GroupDAV project ourselves.
Do you block pages, IG?
Oo! I didn't know about the -f option... maybe *that* explains why I've
been experiencing weirdness with the chat page...
Ah.. I wasn't sure (I haven't tracked all this very well), especially
since dothebart had described himself as relatively un-developer-like. I
thought at least a high-level view would help explain the scope of the
problem.
But then, when I see a question as broad as that, I cannot
dothebart:
Honestly, I don't intend to criticize you in any way, shape, or
form. I thought I remembered that you had described yourself as
more of a user of software than a developer. If, however, I'm
wrong on this point, well, now I know better.
I try to tune my answers to the person
WebCit crashed consistently on my FreeBSD whenever I attempt to bring up the Summary page.I have worked around the problem by removing the call to summary.c's output_date() function. For
reasons completely inexplicable to me, on FreeBSD, the call to localtime_r() eventually leads to a crash
The enclosed files can be used in FreeBSD environments to automatically start the citserver and webserver processes when the machine boots up.You'd put them in your /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ folder,
and you'd modify your /etc/rc.conf, adding the following two lines:citserver_enable=YES
Great!
I tested it on a 5.4 FreeBSD machine, so I don't know how well it would
work on earlier versions (earlier versions did not have some of the spiffy
infrastructure they've put into 5.4 for starting services).
The apache log generates no errors when I attempt to run chat.
I'll try adding those Proxy items to apache to see what it does.
I do not know if it helps, but the webcit log gives this one line when I
click on the Chat icon:
HTTP: GET /chat HTTP/1.1
By contrast, the citserver log does nothing whatsoever.
Hrm.. maybe I spoke too soon.
Chat does not seem to work. When I click on it, it comes up with the
source for a chat page, but not the chat page.
Ahh.. the HTML that I see lacks a closing /body tag. Perhaps there's
something not quite compiling correctly for FreeBSD...
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