Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-25 Thread Chris Johns
My 2ps worth .: Would it not be a more sensible plan to “port” RISC OS to QEmu, rather than trying to emulate things we don’t really need to? It would probably mean changes to both RO and QEmu but certainly seems to be less effort than trying to develop an emulator for a quarter-century old

Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-25 Thread Theo Markettos
On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 08:06:05AM +, Sarah wrote: > On Wednesday, 25 August 2021, 08:56:07 BST, David Feugey > wrote: > >The other way would be also to correct Qemu to provide a better Raspberry Pi > >emulation. > > This is by far the correct option. Apply the fix where the bug is - if

Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-25 Thread Sarah
>On Wednesday, 25 August 2021, 11:26:34 BST, David Feugey >wrote: >In message <420245557.616812.1629881383...@mail.yahoo.com> >          Sarah wrote: > >> On Wednesday, 25 August 2021, 09:35:54 BST, David Feugey >> wrote: > >>>Do you feel better? > >> And you were calling me rude! > >What

Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-25 Thread David Feugey
In message <1935553908.591453.1629878765...@mail.yahoo.com> Sarah wrote: > On Wednesday, 25 August 2021, 08:56:07 BST, David Feugey > wrote: >>The other way would be also to correct Qemu to provide a better Raspberry >>Pi emulation. > This is by far the correct option. Apply the fix

Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-25 Thread David Feugey
In message <420245557.616812.1629881383...@mail.yahoo.com> Sarah wrote: > On Wednesday, 25 August 2021, 09:35:54 BST, David Feugey > wrote: >>Do you feel better? > And you were calling me rude! What should I say: thanks to insult me? Let's stop here. It's really off topic. David

Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-25 Thread Sarah
On Wednesday, 25 August 2021, 09:35:54 BST, David Feugey wrote: >Do you feel better? And you were calling me rude! Sarah ___ RPCEmu mailing list RPCEmu@riscos.info http://www.riscos.info/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rpcemu

Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-25 Thread Sarah
On Wednesday, 25 August 2021, 08:56:07 BST, David Feugey wrote: >The other way would be also to correct Qemu to provide a better Raspberry Pi >emulation. This is by far the correct option. Apply the fix where the bug is - if RO is running correctly on a real Pi, then bugs need fixing in

Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-25 Thread Sarah
On Wednesday, 25 August 2021, 08:52:11 BST, David Feugey wrote: >In message <1304416007.566615.1629876855...@mail.yahoo.com> you wrote: >> "Mainly" has no meaning in this context. So your original statement is >> basically nonsense. Unless you think that anything that originated on a >> Linux

Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-25 Thread David Feugey
In message David Glover wrote: > On the understanding that I ask this question from the perspective of > ignorance... > RISC OS runs on the Raspberry Pi. Can qemu emulate a Raspberry Pi? Yes, but not exactly a way RISC OS like. That's why some suggest RISC OS 5 could be adapted to

Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-25 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Sarah, Could you please be a little less agressive; it seems out of place on this list. -- Thanks, Ralph. ___ RPCEmu mailing list RPCEmu@riscos.info http://www.riscos.info/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rpcemu

Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-25 Thread Sarah
On Wednesday, 25 August 2021, 08:11:11 BST, David Feugey wrote: >In message <378229865.417560.1629829850...@mail.yahoo.com> you wrote: > >>  On Tuesday, 24 August 2021, 18:53:48 BST, David Feugey >> wrote: > >> In message <747934817.371552.1629823670...@mail.yahoo.com> you wrote: > > 1/

Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-25 Thread Sarah
On Wednesday, 25 August 2021, 04:46:28 BST, David Glover wrote: > On the understanding that I ask this question from the perspective of > ignorance... > > RISC OS runs on the Raspberry Pi. Can qemu emulate a Raspberry Pi? Googling "qemu raspberry pi" seems to provide answers to your question.

Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-24 Thread David Glover
On the understanding that I ask this question from the perspective of ignorance... RISC OS runs on the Raspberry Pi. Can qemu emulate a Raspberry Pi? David. ___ RPCEmu mailing list RPCEmu@riscos.info

Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-24 Thread David Feugey
In message <747934817.371552.1629823670...@mail.yahoo.com> you wrote: >> 1/ Adapt RISC OS to QEMU. Problem: since QEMU is mainly a Linux beast > QEMU is cross-platform and has been for a very long time. I never say it's not. >> 2/ Make RPCEMu and RISC OS 5 going closer. Would it possible to

Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-24 Thread Sarah
On Tuesday, 24 August 2021, 18:53:48 BST, David Feugey wrote: In message <747934817.371552.1629823670...@mail.yahoo.com> you wrote: >>> 1/ Adapt RISC OS to QEMU. Problem: since QEMU is mainly a Linux beast >> QEMU is cross-platform and has been for a very long time. > >I never say it's not.

[Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-24 Thread Sarah
> 1/ Adapt RISC OS to QEMU. Problem: since QEMU is mainly a Linux beast QEMU is cross-platform and has been for a very long time. > 2/ Make RPCEMu and RISC OS 5 going closer. Would it possible to have a new > hardware type (Pheobe II?) with more possibilities, virtual hardware more > easy to

Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-24 Thread Stuart
In article <20210820224126.gb31...@chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo Markettos wrote: > FWIW I agree with most of what Peter says here. The moment you change > RPCEmu to not model the Risc PC hardware you now need a fork of the OS. > The more you graft in, the less it's a Risc PC - essentially

Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-24 Thread David Feugey
In message <20210823203000.ge31...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> you wrote: > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 02:07:29PM +0100, A Rawnsley wrote: >> >> I just wanted to post a "thankyou" to Theo for such an excellent and >> researched email. Really appreciated. > Hi Andrew, > Some further thoughts below...

Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-23 Thread Theo Markettos
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 02:07:29PM +0100, A Rawnsley wrote: > > I just wanted to post a "thankyou" to Theo for such an excellent and > researched email. Really appreciated. Hi Andrew, Some further thoughts below... > Personally I always felt that the evolution of a virtual system (be it >

Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-21 Thread Andrew Poole
On 20/08/2021 23:51, David Glover wrote: On Aug 20, 2021, at 8:57 AM, Peter Howkins wrote: For the avoidance of any doubt RPCEmu (and any program that uses any code from RPCEmu) will remain under the GNU General Public Licence Version 2 (or later version of the GNU General Public licence).

Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-20 Thread David Glover
On Aug 20, 2021, at 8:57 AM, Peter Howkins wrote: > > For the avoidance of any doubt RPCEmu (and any program that uses any code > from RPCEmu) will remain under the GNU General Public Licence Version 2 (or > later version of the GNU General Public licence). I have nothing significant to add but

Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-20 Thread Theo Markettos
On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 04:57:22PM +0100, Peter Howkins wrote: > RPCEmu doesn't support ARMv7 and is not likely to in the future for several > technical and practical reasons. > > 1) Going from ARMv4 to ARMv7 does not offer any speed benefits when being >emulated. The more complex

Re: [Rpcemu] RPCEmu licence and other topics

2021-08-20 Thread Peter Howkins
On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 09:44, Stefan Fröhling wrote: > Hello Peter, > > I hope everything is good with you. I wanted to follow up your offer on > Twitter to provide us with an extended licence. What exactly did you have > in mind, and how can I help to make that happen? > Hello Stefan and