[sage-devel] Re: 3D using processing.js

2009-06-17 Thread Tim Lahey
On Jun 17, 2009, at 1:53 AM, Rado wrote: While googling around I found this: http://groups.google.com/group/canvas-3d along with http://www.c3dl.org/ which actually looks just as promising as the google's solution. The problem with both of those is that they both require extensions and in

[sage-devel] Re: 3D using processing.js

2009-06-17 Thread Rado
Interesting. I thought it was supposed to have faster Javascript. One of the reasons I like the processing.js method is that it should work on browsers such as mobile Safari. Testing that site in mobile Safari on my 1st gen iPod Touch, it loads, but it doesn't seem to pass dragging to the

[sage-devel] Re: rest documentation question

2009-06-17 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jun 16, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Nick Alexanderncalexan...@gmail.com wrote: Also, there are probably lots of modules and classes where an alphabetical listing is way better than the one they are in in the code since the alphabetical is

[sage-devel] Re: complex_plot and fractals

2009-06-17 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jun 15, 2009, at 3:08 PM, Tom Boothby wrote: The error isn't in your code, I've duplicated this with much simpler code. {{{ %cython from sage.rings.all import CC def foo(z): return CC(z) }}} {{{ complex_plot(foo,(0,1),(0,1)) /// Traceback (click to the left for traceback)

[sage-devel] Re: rest documentation question

2009-06-17 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Robert Bradshawrober...@math.washington.edu wrote: On Jun 16, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Nick Alexanderncalexan...@gmail.com wrote: Also, there are probably lots of modules and classes where an alphabetical

[sage-devel] Re: typesetting partial derivatives

2009-06-17 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Robert Bradshawrober...@math.washington.edu wrote: On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:19 PM, William Stein wrote: Personally, I prefer the Mathematica notation because I can actually read it.  I have (serious!) trouble reading the current notation that Sage uses and I

[sage-devel] Re: Possible coercion bug

2009-06-17 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jun 15, 2009, at 7:57 AM, Jason Bandlow wrote: Robert Bradshaw wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:47 AM, Jason Bandlow wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:29 AM, Jason Bandlow wrote: Hi, I ran across the following behavior in sage-3.4.1 and sage-4.0 (I don't have 4.0.1 yet), and I find it fairly

[sage-devel] Re: Dynamic Galois Theory

2009-06-17 Thread John Cremona
I cannot access that file (though I could the first time), and wanted to take a look. Did you keep a copy? I'm not sure that it would do what I use QQbar for, but cannot tell without reading it. John 2009/6/15 William Stein wst...@gmail.com: Hi Sage-Devel, There is a talk right now at

[sage-devel] Re: Dynamic Galois Theory

2009-06-17 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:57 AM, John Cremonajohn.crem...@gmail.com wrote: I cannot  access that file (though I could the first time), and wanted to take a look.  Did you keep a copy? I'm not sure that it would do what I use QQbar for, but cannot tell without reading it. See

[sage-devel] Dirac delta in new symbolics

2009-06-17 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi, We had discussions earlier on having Dirac delta distribution included in Sage. Now that we have switched to new symbolics, let me bring this issue once again. Is anyone working in implementing Dirac delta in new symbolics? While working with my own Physics problems in Sage, I often find

[sage-devel] Re: Dirac delta in new symbolics

2009-06-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Golam, On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:38:16 -0300 Golam Mortuza Hossain gmhoss...@gmail.com wrote: We had discussions earlier on having Dirac delta distribution included in Sage. Now that we have switched to new symbolics, let me bring this issue once again. Is anyone working in implementing

[sage-devel] Re: typesetting partial derivatives

2009-06-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:20:31 +0200 William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Robert Bradshawrober...@math.washington.edu wrote: On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:19 PM, William Stein wrote: Personally, I prefer the Mathematica notation because I can actually read

[sage-devel] Re: Nelder-Mead Simplices Algorithm for Minimization.

2009-06-17 Thread Vinzent Steinberg
On Jun 16, 5:44 pm, Prof. Gregory V. Bard b...@fordham.edu wrote: I'm working on a very fast implementation of the Nelder-Mead algorithm for optimizing functions. This is a particularly good algorithm if the function is noisy, or is not smooth. Is it in SAGE already? If not, I'd be happy to

[sage-devel] Re: twitter?

2009-06-17 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jun 16, 6:31 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Should we be using twitter for something? no, and http://twitter.com/sagemath and hardly alive. you have the account details somewhere in your emails ;) h --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send

[sage-devel] Re: Dirac delta in new symbolics

2009-06-17 Thread Maurizio
Glad to see this issue coming out again :) I just would like to point out that Burcin recently highlighted ( http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/msg/368c6c89935b85ad ) that there was a discussion ongoing with Mike Hansen about changing the design of SFunction. I am wondering if that's

[sage-devel] singular discussion audio

2009-06-17 Thread William Stein
http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wstein/tmp/singular_discussion.mp3 -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To

[sage-devel] Re: Dirac delta in new symbolics

2009-06-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 06:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Maurizio maurizio.gran...@gmail.com wrote: Glad to see this issue coming out again :) I just would like to point out that Burcin recently highlighted ( http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/msg/368c6c89935b85ad ) that there was a discussion

[sage-devel] Re: 3D using processing.js

2009-06-17 Thread David Joyner
Very interesting. Thanks for the link! On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Tim Laheytim.la...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I ran across this example of doing 3D using processing.js: http://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/3d although it also uses web2py. I thought it was interesting given the various problems

[sage-devel] Re: 3D using processing.js

2009-06-17 Thread Rado
Here is an even more impressive demo, actually almost doing what we need in js. http://www.benjoffe.com/code/tools/functions3d/ Rado --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email

[sage-devel] Re: 3D using processing.js

2009-06-17 Thread David Joyner
Wow! On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Radorki...@gmail.com wrote: Here is an even more impressive demo, actually almost doing what we need in js. http://www.benjoffe.com/code/tools/functions3d/ Rado --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.0.2.rc1

2009-06-17 Thread eduardo
hi all on o a debian linux, 64 bits i got this failure sage -t devel/sage/sage/schemes/elliptic_curves/ell_egros.py ** File /home/ocampo/sage-3.2.3/devel/sage/sage/schemes/elliptic_curves/ ell_egros.py, line 63: sage:

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.0.2.rc1

2009-06-17 Thread William Stein
2009/6/17 eduardo eocamp...@gmail.com: hi all on o a debian linux, 64 bits i got this failure This happens if you have the optional cremona database installed. It's a known problem (I reported it to trac yesterday). William sage -t  devel/sage/sage/schemes/elliptic_curves/ell_egros.py

[sage-devel] How to get started with developing Sage

2009-06-17 Thread Martin Albrecht
Hi there, Sage Days 16 is coming up next week in Barcelona. On Tuesday, I will give a talk on how to get started developing Sage. At SD16 many people are attending who never attended a Sage Days before and thus we figured it would be nice to provide some hand holding to get into it. My

[sage-devel] Re: How to get started with developing Sage

2009-06-17 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Martin, On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Martin Albrechtm...@informatik.uni-bremen.de wrote: SNIP The Sage Development Process - Trac/Reviews: the process - How to Review Patches Ticket #6226 might be relevant here. The patches on that ticket add further documentation to the

[sage-devel] Re: How to get started with developing Sage

2009-06-17 Thread David Joyner
This looks great. I'm sure you'll mention cloning but more generally if there is time running through all the sage flag options you see under sage -h and sage -advanced might be a good idea. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Martin Albrechtm...@informatik.uni-bremen.de wrote: Hi there, Sage

[sage-devel] Re: LaTeX versions of (combinatorial) graphs

2009-06-17 Thread Rob Beezer
Hi Nicolas, Thanks for the suggestions. I'd had the thought of making it easy to insert some pre- and post- commands such as \begin{center}\end {center}, similar to the way we can now add to the general latex preamble. Commands for Beamer to gradually develop a sequence of graphs are another

[sage-devel] Re: How to get started with developing Sage

2009-06-17 Thread Jason Grout
Martin Albrecht wrote: Hi there, - how to repair your installation after you've broken it (i.e: you can't really mess up badly, we have MQ!) Beware to pop all patches before sage -upgrade! Until someone fixes sage -upgrade to look for mq patches, that is... Jason

[sage-devel] Re: How to get started with developing Sage

2009-06-17 Thread John H Palmieri
On Jun 17, 10:20 am, Martin Albrecht m...@informatik.uni-bremen.de wrote: Hi there, Sage Days 16 is coming up next week in Barcelona. On Tuesday, I will give a talk on how to get started developing Sage. At SD16 many people are attending who never attended a Sage Days before and thus we

[sage-devel] Re: How to get started with developing Sage

2009-06-17 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 06:20:57PM +0100, Martin Albrecht wrote: Hi there, Sage Days 16 is coming up next week in Barcelona. On Tuesday, I will give a talk on how to get started developing Sage. At SD16 many people are attending who never attended a Sage Days before and thus we figured

[sage-devel] Re: LaTeX versions of (combinatorial) graphs

2009-06-17 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:06:58AM -0700, Rob Beezer wrote: Thanks for the suggestions. I'd had the thought of making it easy to insert some pre- and post- commands such as \begin{center}\end {center}, similar to the way we can now add to the general latex preamble. Commands for Beamer to

[sage-devel] Re: Nelder-Mead Simplices Algorithm for Minimization.

2009-06-17 Thread Ben Goodrich
On Jun 16, 11:44 am, Prof. Gregory V. Bard b...@fordham.edu wrote: I'm working on a very fast implementation of the Nelder-Mead algorithm for optimizing functions. This is a particularly good algorithm if the function is noisy, or is not smooth. Is it in SAGE already? R (which is included

[sage-devel] coercion in the developer's guide

2009-06-17 Thread John H Palmieri
Right now, the coercion section of Developer's guide starts off by saying **September 2008:** Much of this material is out of date. We are working on a revised version. (The relevant ticket is http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/ 4196.) Now that we have a very nice coercion section

[sage-devel] Re: coercion in the developer's guide

2009-06-17 Thread Craig Citro
Right now, the coercion section of Developer's guide starts off by saying  **September 2008:** Much of this material is out of date.  We are  working on a revised version. (The relevant ticket is http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/ 4196.) I think that this patch does a large part

[sage-devel] Re: coercion in the developer's guide

2009-06-17 Thread John H Palmieri
On Jun 17, 1:31 pm, Craig Citro craigci...@gmail.com wrote: Right now, the coercion section of Developer's guide starts off by saying  **September 2008:** Much of this material is out of date.  We are  working on a revised version. (The relevant ticket is

[sage-devel] Re: coercion in the developer's guide

2009-06-17 Thread Craig Citro
Yes: #4196 talks about the developer's guide, while #5454 deals with the reference manual. True, but the new section in the reference manual has a fair bit of exposition at the top. What else would you want in the developer's guide that isn't already in the reference manual? Or a note saying

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.0.2.rc1

2009-06-17 Thread Tom Boothby
Is it too late to include #6307 into 4.0.2? This is very sensitive to bitrot, because it splits the notebook javascript into a few separate files. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:37 AM, William Steinwst...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/6/17 eduardo eocamp...@gmail.com: hi all on o a debian linux, 64

[sage-devel] Re: coercion in the developer's guide

2009-06-17 Thread John H Palmieri
On Jun 17, 1:53 pm, Craig Citro craigci...@gmail.com wrote: Yes: #4196 talks about the developer's guide, while #5454 deals with the reference manual. True, but the new section in the reference manual has a fair bit of exposition at the top. What else would you want in the developer's

[sage-devel] Re: coercion in the developer's guide

2009-06-17 Thread Craig Citro
That's exactly what my original question was about... Sorry, apparently I can't read at all this morning. Wow ... In that case, I vote for (1). And, then, (5) of course. :) -cc --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to

[sage-devel] Monstrous Bug in Expresion multiplication

2009-06-17 Thread LBerlioz
Hi, when I do: sage: z(x)=(e^(x^2))*e^(-(x^2));z I get: x |-- e^(-2*x^2) also : sage: (e^(x^3))*e^(-(x^3)) e^(-2*x^3) strangely enough: sage: e^x*e^(-x) 1 I have been looking at this for some time now and I don't think this is a maxima problem (don't believe me I barely know what I'm

[sage-devel] Re: Monstrous Bug in Expresion multiplication

2009-06-17 Thread Mike Hansen
Hello, On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:46 PM, LBerliozluisberl...@gmail.com wrote: I want to confirm this is a bug, then I can open open a trac. See http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6256 --Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to

[sage-devel] Re: Monstrous Bug in Expresion multiplication

2009-06-17 Thread LBerlioz
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[sage-devel] Re: coercion in the developer's guide

2009-06-17 Thread benjamin antieau
Thanks, I had definitely missed that this was now in the reference manual. Ben On Jun 17, 12:50 pm, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote: Right now, the coercion section of Developer's guide starts off by saying   **September 2008:** Much of this material is out of date.  We are  

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.0.2.rc1

2009-06-17 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Tom Boothbytomas.boot...@gmail.com wrote: Is it too late to include #6307 into 4.0.2?  This is very sensitive to bitrot, because it splits the notebook javascript into a few separate files. No further code goes into 4.0.2 except critical bugfixes needed to

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.0.2.rc1

2009-06-17 Thread Jason Grout
Tom Boothby wrote: Alright, I'll do a release -- I'm going to need some serious hand-holding though. Yeah! And a huge +1 to the ideas behind 6307. There have been at least two times in the last little while that I've started to mess with the javascript (to debug the tinymce issue and to

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.0.2.rc1

2009-06-17 Thread Tom Boothby
Alright, I'll do a release -- I'm going to need some serious hand-holding though. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 4:05 PM, William Steinwst...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Tom Boothbytomas.boot...@gmail.com wrote: Is it too late to include #6307 into 4.0.2?  This is very

[sage-devel] Is t2.math.washington.edu working now - I can't log in?

2009-06-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I was using t2 fine earlier (about 12 hours ago) and all seemed ok, but any attempt for me to ssh to it now just hangs. Note, I disabled telnet and ftp the other day on t2, as they are an unnecessary security risk. Can someone try to ssh to t2 and let me know what happens? It just hangs from

[sage-devel] Re: Is t2.math.washington.edu working now - I can't log in?

2009-06-17 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi David, On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I was using t2 fine earlier (about 12 hours ago) and all seemed ok, but any attempt for me to ssh to it now just hangs. Note, I disabled telnet and ftp the other day on t2, as they are an

[sage-devel] Re: Is t2.math.washington.edu working now - I can't log in?

2009-06-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Minh Nguyen wrote: Hi David, On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I was using t2 fine earlier (about 12 hours ago) and all seemed ok, but any attempt for me to ssh to it now just hangs. Note, I disabled telnet and ftp the other day on t2, as

[sage-devel] Sage in the news

2009-06-17 Thread David Joyner
Hi: Sage was mentioned again on slashdot - see the comments to the review of the book Beginning Python Visualization, http://books.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/27/1327255 BTW, I bought that book and am about 1/2 way though reading it. - David Joyner

[sage-devel] Re: Sage in the news

2009-06-17 Thread Jason Grout
David Joyner wrote: Hi: Sage was mentioned again on slashdot - see the comments to the review of the book Beginning Python Visualization, http://books.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/27/1327255 BTW, I bought that book and am about 1/2 way though reading it. See also:

[sage-devel] Re: Is t2.math.washington.edu working now - I can't log in?

2009-06-17 Thread Tom Boothby
:( the ILOM is down, too. I'll see what's up in the morning. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: Minh Nguyen wrote: Hi David, On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I was using t2 fine earlier (about 12

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: fricas and ECL

2009-06-17 Thread Bill Page
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote: maxthemouse wrote: ... What was not clear to me was where I should send a mail/patch for this. i.e. Who is charge of the fricas.spkg? The packages were created by Bill Page.  He also uploaded them to some testing area on sagemath.org

[sage-devel] MEGA talk

2009-06-17 Thread William Stein
Hi, I wrote my MEGA plenary talk, which I'm giving in about 8 hours here (http://www.imub.ub.es/mega09/): http://wstein.org/talks/2009-mega/MEGA_talk.sws Comments/typos/etc. welcome. Note of course, that this is a particular talk for a particular group of people, and it's much different than

[sage-devel] Re: MEGA talk

2009-06-17 Thread Rob Beezer
Very nice, especially the image compression interact. ;-) Almost at the end: We create a random double precision 1000 x 1000 matrix, and quickly do multiplication, and computer SVD and LU decompositions. Maybe computer is compute? Rob On Jun 17, 8:19 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com