[sage-devel] 1; in ipython

2010-01-18 Thread William Stein
Hi Fernando, A user reported this bug: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6650 They think 1; shouldn't print anything since it doesn't on the command line. In IPython indeed it doesn't print anything. But in *Python* it does print something: bash$ ipython Python 2.6.2 (r262:71600, J

Re: [sage-devel] proposal to remove dsage from sage

2010-01-18 Thread William Stein
Hi, DSage is now gone from Sage. See http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/7975 -- William On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Craig Citro wrote: >>    [X] Yes, I don't use DSage (don't even know what it is...), and >> think it should be removed from Sage. >> > > I'm in this group, but

Re: [sage-devel] sage/symbolic _forget_all and maxima

2010-01-18 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Nils, On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:47:48 -0800 (PST) Nils Bruin wrote: > In sage's symbolic module, forget() is supposed to forget all > assumptions. It mainly does this by passing "forget(facts())" to the > calculus instance of the maxima-interface. However, forget(facts()); > is often not valid i

Re: [sage-devel] proposal to remove dsage from sage

2010-01-18 Thread Craig Citro
>    [X] Yes, I don't use DSage (don't even know what it is...), and > think it should be removed from Sage. > I'm in this group, but I do know one (possibly the only?) DSage user -- John Voight. Does anyone know if he still uses it? -cc -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@goog

Re: [sage-devel] proposal to remove dsage from sage

2010-01-18 Thread Tim Joseph Dumol
Hello, [ ] Yes, I don't use DSage (don't even know what it is...), and think it should be removed from Sage. I've never used it, and it's been broken for a long time. On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 8:47 PM, William Stein wrote: > Hello, > > I officially propose removing DSage from the Sage distrib

[sage-devel] sage/symbolic _forget_all and maxima

2010-01-18 Thread Nils Bruin
In sage's symbolic module, forget() is supposed to forget all assumptions. It mainly does this by passing "forget(facts())" to the calculus instance of the maxima-interface. However, forget(facts()); is often not valid in maxima: facts also reports facts that have been introduced by "declare();", a

Re: [sage-devel] A new problem on Solaris 10 SPARC has emerged.

2010-01-18 Thread Craig Citro
So the error seems to be coming from this command: > building 'sage.schemes.elliptic_curves.descent_two_isogeny' extension > /usr/local/gcc-4.4.1-sun-linker/bin/gcc -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -g -O3 > -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC > -I/export/home/drkirkby/sage-4.3.1.rc0/local/include/FLINT/

[sage-devel] Re: proposal to remove dsage from sage

2010-01-18 Thread Nathan Dunfield
[X] Yes, for removal. I tried with little success to use dsage some years ago, but quickly switched to the "processing" module. Nathan -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com

[sage-devel] Re: Buffer types only allowed as function local variables

2010-01-18 Thread M. Yurko
Sorry about this. I meant to send this to the cython-users list. On Jan 18, 7:26 pm, Michael Yurko wrote: > I've figured out what Dag meant in his original post. I've attached a quick > example in case anyone else is having the same issue. > > -- > Mike Yurko > >  cnp_tester.py > < 1KViewDownload

[sage-devel] A new problem on Solaris 10 SPARC has emerged.

2010-01-18 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
There seems to be another problem which is stopping the Sage library building on Solaris 10. At first glance it would appear to be totally unrelated to Roberts complex maths code, though I'm not 100% sure. I've installed his patch. I've created a ticket for this. http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_

Re: [sage-devel] problem with elliptic curves

2010-01-18 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:59 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > Ticket #7532 deals with this issue: in ring.pyx, code says "return > NotImplementedError" where it should say "raise NotImplementedError". > But if I make this change: > > diff -r c86168806012 -r 919f3924ef5c sage/rings/ > ring.pyx > --- a/

Re: [sage-devel] Not the best week for the Solaris port.

2010-01-18 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > William Stein wrote >>> >>> How does this sound then. >>> >>> Set SAGE_COMMON_FLAGS >>> >>> to be a reasonable set of CFLAGS for most packages, so most .spkg's can >>> simply use >>> >>> CFLAGS=$SAGE_COMMON_FLAGS >>> >>> which will have -g

[sage-devel] problem with elliptic curves

2010-01-18 Thread John H Palmieri
Ticket #7532 deals with this issue: in ring.pyx, code says "return NotImplementedError" where it should say "raise NotImplementedError". But if I make this change: diff -r c86168806012 -r 919f3924ef5c sage/rings/ ring.pyx --- a/sage/rings/ring.pyx Mon Jan 18 12:40:07 2010 -0800 +++ b/sage/ri

[sage-devel] Buffer types only allowed as function local variables

2010-01-18 Thread Michael Yurko
I've figured out what Dag meant in his original post. I've attached a quick example in case anyone else is having the same issue. -- Mike Yurko -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegr

Re: [sage-devel] Not the best week for the Solaris port.

2010-01-18 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote How does this sound then. Set SAGE_COMMON_FLAGS to be a reasonable set of CFLAGS for most packages, so most .spkg's can simply use CFLAGS=$SAGE_COMMON_FLAGS which will have -g, -Wall, and if necessary -m64, when using gcc. For other compilers, the options will be different

[sage-devel] Re: Repeated Warnings

2010-01-18 Thread Martin Raum
Thank you for pointing out the ticket. I have been thinking about which classes of warning could be useful in a general warnings framework. Please have a look at the reworked file and the brief comment on it. Could you tell me what you think about it? There should be some follow up tickets which re

[sage-devel] #7980: parents with several concrete representations

2010-01-18 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Dear Sage/Sage-combinat devs, On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:40:18AM +0100, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > * #7980: Extract basic support for the "concrete representation of an >abstract algebra" relation out of the ncsf patch (Jason?) This is a concept that we have used much in MuPAD-Combina

Re: [sage-devel] Not the best week for the Solaris port.

2010-01-18 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > William Stein wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Dr. David Kirkby >> wrote: >>> >>> Last week was a pretty annoying week for Solaris support. Two quite major >>> obstacles came up. >>> >>> 1) #7932: _Complex_I undeclared - a

Re: [sage-devel] Not the best week for the Solaris port.

2010-01-18 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jan 18, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: William Stein wrote: On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Last week was a pretty annoying week for Solaris support. Two quite major obstacles came up. 1) #7932: _Complex_I undeclared - a new bug totally stops a So

Re: [sage-devel] proposal to remove dsage from sage

2010-01-18 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jan 18, 2010, at 4:47 AM, William Stein wrote: Hello, I officially propose removing DSage from the Sage distribution. Why? 1. Nobody has worked on the code for years. 2. The guy who originally worked on the code is gone, and can't work on the code even if he wanted to (due to conditio

[sage-devel] Re: proposal to remove dsage from sage

2010-01-18 Thread jplab
Hello everyone, I worked during months with my computer lab director trying to make dsage work... We managed once to make it work properly. In dsage: -Documentation is anemic; -Many not implemented functions; -Bizarre behaviours -... My vote is: [x] - Remove dSage from Sage "and use something e

Re: [sage-devel] Not the best week for the Solaris port.

2010-01-18 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Last week was a pretty annoying week for Solaris support. Two quite major obstacles came up. 1) #7932: _Complex_I undeclared - a new bug totally stops a Solaris 10 build. has introduced code which exploits a bug in

[sage-devel] Re: A web page for potential student projects.

2010-01-18 Thread Jason Grout
Minh Nguyen wrote: Hi David, On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: The issue William mentioned got me thinking that it would be useful to add a web page something like: "Ideas for student projects" This might be related to William's Sage "Grand Tour" [1] from June 2009. T

[sage-devel] Re: proposal to remove dsage from sage

2010-01-18 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: [X] Yes, I don't use DSage (don't even know what it is...), and think it should be removed from Sage. Well, I do know vaguely what it is, but I don't think it should get back into standard without the usual review process---definitely not for free. Moving it to experimen

Fwd: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] sage/combinat/iet/template.py

2010-01-18 Thread John Cremona
-- Forwarded message -- From: John Cremona Date: 2010/1/18 Subject: Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] sage/combinat/iet/template.py To: sage-devel@googlegroups.com Cc: sage-combinat-de...@googlegroups.com The other common error is misuse of the :: (double colon) which yo

Re: [sage-devel] proposal to remove dsage from sage

2010-01-18 Thread Robert Miller
You didn't offer: [x] Yes, I've used DSage extensively in the past, and I wholeheartedly agree with removing it from Sage. The only use I have for dsage anymore is "Hey! The dsage spkg is compiling! Sage must be almost finished building!" -- Robert L. Miller http://www.rlmiller.org/ -- To post

Re: [sage-devel] A web page for potential student projects.

2010-01-18 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi David, On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > The issue William mentioned got me thinking that it would be useful to add a > web page something like: > > "Ideas for student projects" This might be related to William's Sage "Grand Tour" [1] from June 2009. That tour lists m

[sage-devel] A web page for potential student projects.

2010-01-18 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
The issue William mentioned got me thinking that it would be useful to add a web page something like: "Ideas for student projects" where things could be listed which would be useful, but where nobody is working on. A bit like this one http://www.itu.dk/~kfl/student-projects.html but state t

Re: [sage-devel] proposal to remove dsage from sage

2010-01-18 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: Hello, I officially propose removing DSage from the Sage distribution. Why? 1. Nobody has worked on the code for years. 2. The guy who originally worked on the code is gone, and can't work on the code even if he wanted to (due to conditions of his job). 3. So fa

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] sage/combinat/iet/template.py

2010-01-18 Thread John Cremona
The other common error is misuse of the :: (double colon) which you should only put immediately before a block of doctests (starting with sage: prompts). So if your EAMPLES block goes right into an example, use EXAMPLES:: but if the first example has some other explanatory text first, keep a singl

Re: [sage-devel] proposal to remove dsage from sage

2010-01-18 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
William Stein wrote: Hello, I officially propose removing DSage from the Sage distribution. Why? 1. Nobody has worked on the code for years. 2. The guy who originally worked on the code is gone, and can't work on the code even if he wanted to (due to conditions of his job). 3. So fa

Re: [sage-devel] Re: proposal to remove dsage from sage

2010-01-18 Thread John Cremona
orphaning. I remember thinking it looked great, at a time when I didn't have a machine on which I could use it. John 2010/1/18 Nathann Cohen : > Same question.. What is it ? ;-) > > Nathann > > -- > To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this gr

[sage-devel] Re: Road map to Sage Days 20

2010-01-18 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:40:18AM +0100, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > I also added a list of core features I really would like to see in > Sage, or at least in Sage-Combinat, before Sage Days 20 (Feb. 22nd), > since they will be building blocks for the work planned there. > Here is a copy: > > *

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] sage/combinat/iet/template.py

2010-01-18 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Vincent, On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Vincent Delecroix <20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Is there anywhere strict specification/possibilities for the docstring > of functions ? My only source was the devel guide but it does not > mention the ".. math:" ReST tag Ticket #7977 [1] cont

[sage-devel] Re: numpy on Open Solaris 64 bit

2010-01-18 Thread Jaap Spies
Jaap Spies wrote: Hi, A patched version of numpy-1.3.0 seems to build and install On Open Solaris 06/09 real 0m46.014s user 0m41.791s sys 0m2.656s Successfully installed numpy-1.3.0.p3 [...] from numpy.linalg import lapack_lite ImportError: ld.so.1: python: fatal: relocation error: file /ex

[sage-devel] Re: proposal to remove dsage from sage

2010-01-18 Thread Nathann Cohen
Same question.. What is it ? ;-) Nathann -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www

Re: [sage-devel] Re: proposal to remove dsage from sage

2010-01-18 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Simon King wrote: > On Jan 18, 12:47 pm, William Stein wrote: >> If you care, please vote. > > I don't know if I care, but if I did, my answer would be > >     [X] Yes, I don't use DSage (don't even know what it is...), and > think it should be removed from Sage.

[sage-devel] Re: proposal to remove dsage from sage

2010-01-18 Thread Simon King
On Jan 18, 12:47 pm, William Stein wrote: > If you care, please vote. I don't know if I care, but if I did, my answer would be     [X] Yes, I don't use DSage (don't even know what it is...), and think it should be removed from Sage. And what is it? Cheers Simon -- To post to this group, send

[sage-devel] Re: proposal to remove dsage from sage

2010-01-18 Thread Adam Webb
> If you care, please vote. > >     [ ] Yes, I don't use DSage (don't even know what it is...), and > think it should be removed from Sage. > >     [ ] No, I think DSage should stay as is.  I love using DSage! > >     [ ] Sort of -- delete Dsage for now, but if a maintainer/developer > comes along

Re: [sage-devel] proposal to remove dsage from sage

2010-01-18 Thread David Joyner
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:47 AM, William Stein wrote: > Hello, > > I officially propose removing DSage from the Sage distribution. > > Why? > >   1. Nobody has worked on the code for years. > >   2. The guy who originally worked on the code is gone, and can't > work on the code even if he wanted t

[sage-devel] proposal to remove dsage from sage

2010-01-18 Thread William Stein
Hello, I officially propose removing DSage from the Sage distribution. Why? 1. Nobody has worked on the code for years. 2. The guy who originally worked on the code is gone, and can't work on the code even if he wanted to (due to conditions of his job). 3. So far as I can tell, DSage

[sage-devel] Road map to Sage Days 20

2010-01-18 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Dear Sage and Sage-Combinat devs, I just updated http://sagetrac.org/sage_trac/wiki/SageCombinatRoadMap to reflect the big pile of work that has been done in 2009. I certainly have forgotten things; in particular, I did not list anything about words and the like. Please edit further! I al

Re: [sage-devel] Not the best week for the Solaris port.

2010-01-18 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > Last week was a pretty annoying week for Solaris support. Two quite major > obstacles came up. > > 1) #7932: _Complex_I undeclared - a new bug totally stops a Solaris 10 > build. > > has introduced code which exploits a bug in gcc, which