Le 11/11/2013 20:45, Robert Bradshaw a écrit :
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Volker Braun wrote:
>> On Monday, November 11, 2013 10:09:54 AM UTC-8, Ralf Hemmecke wrote:
>>>
>>> But I think even if I send that log, the bug is rather that Sage should
>>> check "git --version" and then don't st
On 11/11/2013 07:22 PM, William Stein wrote:
>> check "git --version" and then don't start trying to build git at all,
> If this (and any other similar) change is made, it needs to be made in
> a way that doesn't mess up the binaries we build. The binaries that
> are built for generic redistribut
This is now http://trac.sagemath.org/15401 (needs review)
On Monday, November 11, 2013 1:03:29 PM UTC-8, Volker Braun wrote:
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> This has been reported before at
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-git/4JtJ9w-kmTw/tWdXPChx4d4J
>
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>> check "git --version" and then don't start trying to build git at all,
> That is really a feature request, not a bug. Of course it would be nice. If
> you want to work on a configure-style script that queries the system for
> build- and runtime dependencies then please do!
Interesting! You
This has been reported before at
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-git/4JtJ9w-kmTw/tWdXPChx4d4J
On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:04:40 PM UTC-8, Ralf Hemmecke wrote:
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> > It would be nice if you could answer Vincent's question about the
> > full build log so it can be fixed.
>
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> It would be nice if you could answer Vincent's question about the
> full build log so it can be fixed.
As promised...
Oh, interesting, I just looked through it. One can find there something like
/bin/sh: 1: curl-config: not found
/bin/sh: 4: autoconf: not found
/bin/sh: 1: msgfmt: not found
b
Hi,
I definitely think that aim of Felix is good and needed. For example,
it is hard to incorporate python module into Sage distribution (I
recently went into troubles with pygtk). I guess that having Sage
working with the builtin Python would solve the problem. Could
someone confirm ?
It is har
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Volker Braun wrote:
> On Monday, November 11, 2013 10:09:54 AM UTC-8, Ralf Hemmecke wrote:
>>
>> But I think even if I send that log, the bug is rather that Sage should
>> check "git --version" and then don't start trying to build git at all,
>> no?
>
>
> That is
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 07:09:54PM +0100, Ralf Hemmecke wrote:
> But I think even if I send that log, the bug is rather that Sage should
> check "git --version" and then don't start trying to build git at all,
> no?
"checking whether is necessary" is one part of the problem.
according to some sag
Le 11/11/2013 19:31, Volker Braun a écrit :
> On Monday, November 11, 2013 10:09:54 AM UTC-8, Ralf Hemmecke wrote:
>
> But I think even if I send that log, the bug is rather that Sage should
> check "git --version" and then don't start trying to build git at all,
> no?
>
> That is rea
Dear Sage Developers,
We have been working hard behind the scenes for a while to drag the
Sage source version control into the 21-st century. The current plan
is to have the first Sage-on-git release before the end of the year
(and its almost Thanksgiving).
* You can find the new Sage Developer'
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 06:39:28PM +0100, Ralf Hemmecke wrote:
> Obviously your (and probably others) opinion is that a sage installation
> as approached by Felix for Debian cannot easily be lifted to other
> non-debian distributions. I haven't actually looked at any code (so I'm
> rather uninforme
On Monday, November 11, 2013 10:09:54 AM UTC-8, Ralf Hemmecke wrote:
>
> But I think even if I send that log, the bug is rather that Sage should
> check "git --version" and then don't start trying to build git at all,
> no?
>
That is really a feature request, not a bug. Of course it would be nic
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Ralf Hemmecke wrote:
>>> My initial question was "What requirement for git does Sage have?"
>
>> It should have none, you found a bug. It would be nice if you could answer
>> Vincent's question about the full build log so it can be fixed.
>
> OK. I can only dig th
>> My initial question was "What requirement for git does Sage have?"
> It should have none, you found a bug. It would be nice if you could answer
> Vincent's question about the full build log so it can be fixed.
OK. I can only dig that out later.
But I think even if I send that log, the bug i
On Monday, November 11, 2013 10:00:21 AM UTC-8, Ralf Hemmecke wrote:
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> My initial question was "What requirement for git does Sage have?"
>
It should have none, you found a bug. It would be nice if you could answer
Vincent's question about the full build log so it can be fixed.
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>> mean that a sage installation should never install anything that is
>> already available in a standard distribution.
> Even if that means that the Sage testsuite fails because distribution
> packages have a bug that isn't fixed upstream yet? Thats an important
> policy question and we never
On Monday, November 11, 2013 9:39:28 AM UTC-8, Ralf Hemmecke wrote:
>
> Of course, I
> mean that a sage installation should never install anything that is
> already available in a standard distribution.
>
Even if that means that the Sage testsuite fails because distribution
packages have a bug
On 11/11/2013 06:29 PM, Volker Braun wrote:
> Its not a technical problem - I think Felix is technically very competent.
> But he didn't listen to our concerns nor did he engage in discussions. He
> continues to be focused on Debian whereas Sage has a much larger target. In
> the end, a Debian
On Monday, November 11, 2013 7:51:23 AM UTC-8, Snark wrote:
>
> Can we get the un-sarcastic direct criticism to discuss on technical
> merit?
>
Its not a technical problem - I think Felix is technically very competent.
But he didn't listen to our concerns nor did he engage in discussions. He
c
Le 11/11/2013 16:25, Volker Braun a écrit :
> On Monday, November 11, 2013 7:11:20 AM UTC-8, Felix Salfelder wrote:
>
> > Fixed that for you.
>
> that's great. would you be so kind and tell me/us where to find it and
> how to make use of it?
>
> FTFY (Often used sarcastically) - no
On Monday, November 11, 2013 7:11:20 AM UTC-8, Felix Salfelder wrote:
>
> > Fixed that for you.
>
> that's great. would you be so kind and tell me/us where to find it and
> how to make use of it?
FTFY (Often used sarcastically) - not to fix an honest mistake, but to
sarcastically disagree wi
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 06:53:37AM -0800, Volker Braun wrote:
> On Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:14:30 AM UTC-8, Felix Salfelder wrote:
> >
> > the idea is to run sage (the distribution) on top of debian. and
> > only compile packages that deviate from upstream or the debian
> > package.
>
>
> F
On Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:14:30 AM UTC-8, Felix Salfelder wrote:
>
> the idea is to run sage (the distribution) on top of debian. and
> only compile packages that deviate from upstream or the debian
> package.
Fixed that for you.
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On Sunday, November 10, 2013 11:18:43 AM UTC-5, Ursin Solèr wrote:
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> Hello all!
>
> I was just wondering whether it could be a good idea to include ggplot
> [1] with SAGE. What do you think about that? Was it already discussed
> once?
>
> [1] https://github.com/yhat/ggplot/
>
>
* pip inst
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