[ X ] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below
I also share some of the sentiments of Thierry.
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:29 PM, john_perry_usm wrote:
> [ X ] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below
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Anyone interested in http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/14110 ? Before
continuing it would nice to know if the code compiles on Macintosh(es) at
all.
Also there is a question about how this should be used.
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On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Bill Page wrote:
> On 24 November 2014 at 17:43, Ondřej Čertík wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Bill Page
>> wrote:
>> ...
>>>
>>> In FriCAS 'abs' is already a kernel function and it implemented the
>>> derivative of 'abs' even before my proposed patc
On 24 November 2014 at 17:43, Ondřej Čertík wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Bill Page wrote:
> ...
>>
>> In FriCAS 'abs' is already a kernel function and it implemented the
>> derivative of 'abs' even before my proposed patch but I think the
>> current definition is wrong:
>>
>> (14) ->
> Several developpers mentionned making it an "advice" instead of a "code",
> so you can see that even the title was an open question.
>
I voted for adopting the code but I would more comfortable with something
like this being adopted as *guidelines* or *recommendations*, especially
since the
Hello !
> Volker proposed the text and he probably pinched most of it from
> somewhere else (fedora if I remember correctly).
He probably participated indeed, but he begins his first post with that:
"Some of the Sage developers who are better with words than me went ahead
and stole a lot more, m
>
> Once more, the rules make a point to enforce politeness but they seem
> to avoid things like having the respect to answer a honest question.
>
>
Collated for ease of reply, though there were also implicit questions and
examples of what was meant in the email.
- what is our commitment to
Hi Thierry,
Well that has to be the fiercest reaction so far.
Volker proposed the text and he probably pinched most of it from
somewhere else (fedora if I remember correctly).
I have to take issue with some of your characterization.
There was a long discussion thread and I'll admit I haven't
re
That's right. I was building in /usr/local as sudo. I used to always do
that. And did upgrade to 6.2 which was running fine.
Now, I had a doubt about some strange way why this package alone was
behaving so. Because distutils is part of the python distribution. And
finding python and missing dis
NO !
I can not participate to this, this call for vote is both paternalistic
and violent.
Since i can not explain why here, please read more details at:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/sage-devel/PjU2YQn3ca4
Ciao,
Thierry
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 04:47:33PM -0800, William Ste
Hi again,
I have serious concerns with the current situation.
What is wrong with the current call for vote ?
Let me summarize the situation :
- An obscure group of self-appointed people wrote a text, they had the
possibility to discuss and amend its content, with an unlimited amount
of ti
Hello guys,
Once more, the rules make a point to enforce politeness but they seem
to avoid things like having the respect to answer a honest question.
Could we thus have an answer to the ones aked by Therry ? Not ignoring
anybody is also part of elementary "friendliness".
Nathann
On 25 Novembe
>
> > Ideas are welcome ;-)
>
> A documentation page with language tabs, that defaults to English?
>
>
Possible, but Harald might want some help then.
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> > > [Edited because this should be a family show]
>
> I was trying to be sarcastic and make visible a risk for machismo or
> androcracy that could follow from establishing some kind of competition
> within the community.
>
> I realize that the way i wrote those two lines somehow strengthen
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On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Harald Schilly
wrote:
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>
> On Monday, November 24, 2014 10:22:24 AM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>>
>> In fact, I think the translations should be mentioned also on
>> http://www.sagemath.org/doc/index.html.
>
>
> I agree that external links to dead pages should g
On Monday, November 24, 2014 10:22:24 AM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>
> In fact, I think the translations should be mentioned also on
> http://www.sagemath.org/doc/index.html.
>
I agree that external links to dead pages should go away. It piles up. I
don't want to judge on relevancy, too.
> > [Edited because this should be a family show]
I was trying to be sarcastic and make visible a risk for machismo or
androcracy that could follow from establishing some kind of competition
within the community.
I realize that the way i wrote those two lines somehow strengthen such
theses. I am
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Bill Page wrote:
> On 22 November 2014 at 12:34, Ondřej Čertík wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Bill Page
>> wrote:
>>> ...
>>> FriCAS currently does not implement a symbolic 'conjugate' operator.
>>> The issue concerns whether adding 'conjugate' is a
[ X] Yes -- adopt the code of conduct stated below (*)
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On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 7:47 PM, William Stein wrote:
> Hello Sage Developers,
>
> This is a simple majority vote for the original proposed code of
> conduct. I will close voting on Monday at midnight PST. (If the vote
> is
[x ] Yes -- adopt the code of conduct stated below (*)
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hmm...one more question here then I'll stop, as this is turning into more
like a sage-support discussion as opposed to sage-devel.
This does seem to be doing a good job with high enough precision specified.
What is the best way to compare two such interval numbers? The multipliers
(after applyi
[X] Yes -- adopt the code of conduct stated below (*)
Thanks,
Vince
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On 22 November 2014 at 12:34, Ondřej Čertík wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Bill Page wrote:
>> ...
>> FriCAS currently does not implement a symbolic 'conjugate' operator.
>> The issue concerns whether adding 'conjugate' is a good idea and only
>> secondly how to differentiate it.
>
> A
Hi
In particular: Try .simplify()!
In my case that produced an improvement factor >1000 in some cases.
Best
Jonas
On 24.11.2014 20:54, Ben Hutz wrote:
Thanks Vincent. I can give that a try. We did try to approximate earlier
with CC and the errors were compounding too much (we do a bunch m
Thanks Vincent. I can give that a try. We did try to approximate earlier
with CC and the errors were compounding too much (we do a bunch more stuff
after this), but maybe approximating the roots with CIF will do a better
job.
It sounds like the recursion depth error is actually expected for num
I mean the time that is just over 12 hours from now...
- William Stein (cell phone)
On Nov 24, 2014 11:36 AM, "Nils Bruin" wrote:
> On Saturday, November 22, 2014 10:39:37 AM UTC-8, William wrote:
>>
>> I will start a new thread on sage-devel with a clear title "VOTE: code
>> of conduct", copy o
Hi,
On 24/11/2014 15:06, kcrisman wrote:
> It seemed to me that this was an attempt to provide some slightly less
> arbitrary measure than "the BDFL and whoever he likes" or "the release
> manager and his friends". I am pretty sure that there were calls to
> perhaps find a different measure. Natur
On Saturday, November 22, 2014 10:39:37 AM UTC-8, William wrote:
>
> I will start a new thread on sage-devel with a clear title "VOTE: code
> of conduct", copy of the proposed code, and [ ] Yes/ [ ] No option,
> and a time limit.
Good job going for the edge case on the time limit:-) Does your M
Hi Ben,
You are dealing with complicated numbers, it is not surprising that
things like "exactify" or "__cmp__" lead to maximum recursion errors.
If you want something faster than QQbar you can either:
- do approximation earlier in the code
- try to work with number fields
Note that your exampl
I'm having trouble with getting a complex approximation to a QQbar number.
We're working with symmetric polynomials of multipliers of periodic points,
so the numbers generated are complicated and the failure occurs fairly far
along in the computation, so the code to generate the error is a littl
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> As time goes it gets bigger and bigger...
>
+1 (only if it is documented properly!)
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>
> Trac tickets and comments, however, are public. Thus, among the many
> good questions raised by Thierry which deserve an answer, I am also
> interested by the answer to the following question:
>
> I consider myself as a Sage developer, i have never heard about this
> initiative before. Cou
> Most of the translations mentioned on http://www.sagemath.org/help.html
> are in fact broken links, for example
> http://www.sagemath.org/de/html/thematische_anleitungen/index.html
>
>
> The link to the "Tutorial (Printed & Bound)" is a printed version of the
> Sage-3.4 tutorial from 2009.
>
>
> We should for sure mention the git repo on the download-source page
> too. If I could create a pull request against the download-source web
> I would.
>
You can!
https://github.com/sagemath/website/blob/master/src/download-source.html
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Hello,
> Realistically, that is not how we operate. Somebody opens a ticket, works on
> it, and then posts the result for review. I have found quite a number of
> random failures on the buildbot (tagged by the random_fail keyword:
> http://trac.sagemath.org/query?keywords=~random_fail) and nobody
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Most of the translations mentioned on http://www.sagemath.org/help.html
are in fact broken links, for example
http://www.sagemath.org/de/html/thematische_anleitungen/index.html
The link to the "Tutorial (Printed & Bound)" is a printed version of the
Sage-3.4 tutorial from 2009. Is this still re
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