Hi Jori,
What do you mean?
- if you mean that this would modify the startup of sage, then I do
not think it is a good idea
- on the website, why not.
Vincent
2014-12-08 8:31 UTC+01:00, Jori Mantysalo jori.mantys...@uta.fi:
On Fri, 5 Dec 2014, maldun wrote:
But till now I see only
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014, Vincent Delecroix wrote:
Hi Jori,
What do you mean?
- if you mean that this would modify the startup of sage, then I do
not think it is a good idea
Why not? Some programs already do that in a form or another. See Firefox
for example, or a user counter for alpine.
I
I have Sage running a bunch of numerical experiments on a cluster. If this
change of start up would stop some of those running (as I wouldn't input
anything) I also don't think it's a good idea. The 1% would very quickly
block everything...
On Mon Dec 08 2014 at 8:36:57 AM Jori Mantysalo
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014, Vincent Knight wrote:
I have Sage running a bunch of numerical experiments on a cluster. If
this change of start up would stop some of those running (as I wouldn't
input anything) I also don't think it's a good idea.
Python already knows if it is used interactively or
2014-12-08 9:36 UTC+01:00, Jori Mantysalo jori.mantys...@uta.fi:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014, Vincent Delecroix wrote:
Hi Jori,
What do you mean?
- if you mean that this would modify the startup of sage, then I do
not think it is a good idea
Why not? Some programs already do that in a form or
Is there any place where the reasonably-recent Sage source tarballs are
stored?
http://www.sagemath.org/src-old/ only has the tarballs up to 6.1.1
Jeroen.
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2014, Vincent Delecroix wrote:
Saying that some others do that is not an argument (should I recall
the code of conduct ;-). More seriously why if sage is used for a web
service? or just run in background for some reason? You should not
expect that a software is run by someone even
Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
Is there any place where the reasonably-recent Sage source tarballs are
stored?
http://www.sagemath.org/src-old/ only has the tarballs up to 6.1.1
Jeroen.
http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/release/
has a directory sage-6.2 with tarballs of all 6.2 betas,
If you don’t mind not having the “upstream/spkg directory content there is
always:
https://github.com/sagemath/sage/releases
I also have a complete tarball of sage 5.12 here.
François
On 8/12/2014, at 21:52, Jeroen Demeyer jdeme...@cage.ugent.be wrote:
Is there any place where the
On 2014-12-05 21:14, maldun wrote:
Hi!
Since William's statement, that Sage failed as a real alternative to the
4 MMs there are currently some threads
with thoughts on improving Sage.
But till now I see only discussions among the devlopers. But I think we
should also ask the users.
The most of
I am using a VirtualBox Sage-6.2 and wanted to upgrade sage.
It failed trying to build conway_polynomials.
[sage@sagevm ~]$ python -m bitset
/usr/bin/python: No module named bitset
[sage@sagevm ~]$ python -V
Python 2.6.6
Thread model: posix
gcc version 4.4.7 20120313 (Red Hat 4.4.7-4) (GCC)
Thank's for spotting this, it's yet another inconsistency after
splitting this onto the VM.
That link should point here:
http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/sagemath/www-files/src-old/
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On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Jeroen Demeyer jdeme...@cage.ugent.be wrote:
Is there any place where
The python used by sage is not the system python. So you should do
./sage -sh
in SAGE_ROOT and then try “python -m bitset”
François
On 8/12/2014, at 18:00, Michael Somos ms...@georgetown.edu wrote:
I am using a VirtualBox Sage-6.2 and wanted to upgrade sage.
It failed trying to build
Hello,
bitset is not a Python module. It is now in sage.data_structures and
not anymore in sage.misc (since 6.3.beta4, see
http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17196). The following works for me
sage: from sage.data_structures.bitset import FrozenBitset, Bitset
sage: Bitset
type
On 2014-12-08, Michael Somos ms...@georgetown.edu wrote:
I am using a VirtualBox Sage-6.2 and wanted to upgrade sage.
What exactly did you do?
Did you try to build the current release (6.4.1) from scratch?
Something else?
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Le vendredi 5 décembre 2014 21:14:54 UTC+1, maldun a écrit :
I don't think that the functionality of Sage is the big problem, in fact
Sage has a great features for zero cost.
Nothing is really free.
My estimate for a google search is an energy cost of 16Wh per search
(equivalent to 7g
How do you reach your estimate of 16 Wh/Google search ? Any source ?
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Le lundi 8 décembre 2014 14:44:55 UTC+1, parisse a écrit :
Le vendredi 5 décembre 2014 21:14:54 UTC+1, maldun a écrit :
I don't think that the functionality of Sage is the big problem, in fact
Le lundi 8 décembre 2014 16:24:30 UTC+1, Emmanuel Charpentier a écrit :
How do you reach your estimate of 16 Wh/Google search ? Any source ?
In French:
http://www.planetoscope.com/electronique/980-emissions-de-co2-par-les-recherches-sur-google.html
7g CO2/request.
Google's own published
Hi,
On 2014-12-08, parisse bernard.pari...@ujf-grenoble.fr wrote:
Le lundi 8 d=C3=A9cembre 2014 16:24:30 UTC+1, Emmanuel Charpentier a =C3=A9=
crit :
How do you reach your estimate of 16 Wh/Google search ? Any source ?
In French:
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:24 AM, parisse bernard.pari...@ujf-grenoble.fr wrote:
Le lundi 8 décembre 2014 16:24:30 UTC+1, Emmanuel Charpentier a écrit :
How do you reach your estimate of 16 Wh/Google search ? Any source ?
In French:
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Simon King simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote:
Hi,
On 2014-12-08, parisse bernard.pari...@ujf-grenoble.fr wrote:
Le lundi 8 d=C3=A9cembre 2014 16:24:30 UTC+1, Emmanuel Charpentier a =C3=A9=
crit :
How do you reach your estimate of 16 Wh/Google search ? Any source ?
Le lundi 8 décembre 2014 17:56:14 UTC+1, William a écrit :
If the question is to compute the energy used per request, it is
unfair to compute the energy used by *all* of the internet (the
energy used outside google in the net!). That can only give you a
very non-tight upper bound.
From my point of view, the sage-devel list is turning a bit funny. Ok,
this is the end of the year but I do not think that people have started
to drink (at least, they certainly do not drink in front of their computer).
These problems related to energy, ecology, and so on are certainly very
2014-12-08 19:27 UTC+01:00, Thierry Dumont tdum...@math.univ-lyon1.fr:
From my point of view, the sage-devel list is turning a bit funny. Ok,
this is the end of the year but I do not think that people have started
to drink (at least, they certainly do not drink in front of their
computer).
Le lundi 8 décembre 2014 19:27:27 UTC+1, tdumont a écrit :
These problems related to energy, ecology, and so on are certainly very
interesting (my lab is a member of the association EcoInfo in France,
so...). But be careful: people can rapidly decide that a discussion list
is polluted,
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 11:48 AM, parisse
bernard.pari...@ujf-grenoble.fr wrote:
Le lundi 8 décembre 2014 19:27:27 UTC+1, tdumont a écrit :
These problems related to energy, ecology, and so on are certainly very
interesting (my lab is a member of the association EcoInfo in France,
so...).
Maybe support for arm architecture would be relevant in that respect.
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On Monday, December 8, 2014 9:53:51 PM UTC+1, mmarco wrote:
Maybe support for arm architecture would be relevant in that respect.
We do support ARM, don't we?
At least I'm able to compile Sage from scratch on a Raspberry Pi and on
armv7+ as well.
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On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Jean-Pierre Flori jpfl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, December 8, 2014 9:53:51 PM UTC+1, mmarco wrote:
Maybe support for arm architecture would be relevant in that respect.
We do support ARM, don't we?
At least I'm able to compile Sage from scratch on a
Again, as this thread is titled User Survey, let's say that the
survey question might be: Do you *care* about support for Sage on ARM
devices such as Raspberry Pi, etc.?
Or *quick* usage on Internet-enabled devices that may not be able to run
Sage very quickly (i.e., continuing updates
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