[sage-devel] Re: Sage organizational structure, AWOL people

2009-08-12 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2009-Jul-30 09:47:11 -0700, William Stein wrote: >> "Lance Davis, the main project administrator for CentOS, a popular free >> 'rebuild' of Red Hat's Enterprise Linux, appears to have gone AWOL. > > (He has since resurfaced and CentOS appears to be back to business as >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage organizational structure, AWOL people

2009-08-12 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2009-Jul-30 09:47:11 -0700, William Stein wrote: >"Lance Davis, the main project administrator for CentOS, a popular free >'rebuild' of Red Hat's Enterprise Linux, appears to have gone AWOL. (He has since resurfaced and CentOS appears to be back to business as usual). As an alternative scenar

[sage-devel] Re: Sage organizational structure, AWOL people

2009-08-01 Thread David Kirkby
2009/7/30 William Stein : > Hi, > > There is an article on slashdot today about the CentOS project admin being > AWOL: > > http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/07/30/130249/CentOS-Project-Administrator-Goes-AWOL?art_pos=4 > > "Lance Davis, the main project administrator for CentOS, a popular free >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage organizational structure, AWOL people

2009-07-31 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: > > So, dear William Stein, how much do you know that nobody else know?! > > > The only thing I can think of along these lines is the login credentials > for GoDaddy.com, from whom I rent the sagemath.org > and sagenb.org dom

[sage-devel] Re: Sage organizational structure, AWOL people

2009-07-31 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:59 AM, slabbe wrote: > Well, I think that if, someday, you know you want to go AWOL for a > while, you should think about it a long time before. Something like a > year before. You should make sure that all the knowledge you have > (right access to all the tools AND how

[sage-devel] Re: Sage organizational structure, AWOL people

2009-07-31 Thread slabbe
Dear William, Dear Sage-devel, On Jul 30, 12:47 pm, William Stein wrote: [...] > That said, I think it would be really beneficial for people > involved with Sage to think through other scenarios and come up with a way > to make our project more robust.   For example, what if *I* was AWOL for a >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage organizational structure, AWOL people (also about openmoney)

2009-07-31 Thread Serge A. Salamanka
Hello everyone, 1) Protection from the harm of project leaders or some key people in the project being vanished could be organized, I would suggest, in the following way: The project sets up some place where the important information is being kept and maintained by the key people of the project.

[sage-devel] Re: Sage organizational structure, AWOL people

2009-07-30 Thread Jason Grout
Minh Nguyen wrote: > > Have you been reading the following post by Jono Bacon? :-) > > http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/07/30/on-validation/ > Thanks; I really like that article. (for those that haven't read it, it's on the importance of validation in volunteer communities, and the need for

[sage-devel] Re: Sage organizational structure, AWOL people

2009-07-30 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:12 PM, kcrisman wrote: > > I agree that overall things are in good shape, with a few comments > about potential vulnerabilities: > > 1) Obviously 'was' is key at this point, as has already been pointed > out - though not necessarily for day-to-day operations, which is >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage organizational structure, AWOL people

2009-07-30 Thread David Joyner
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > > Hi David, > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:44 AM, David Joyner wrote: > > > >> Several comments: >> >> I think Minh is doing a great job! It is fascinating to me that when a >> structure (like the Sage organization) changes (like Michael's void

[sage-devel] Re: Sage organizational structure, AWOL people

2009-07-30 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi David, On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:44 AM, David Joyner wrote: > Several comments: > > I think Minh is doing a great job! It is fascinating to me that when a > structure (like the Sage organization) changes (like Michael's void), > how someone > (eg, Minh) of really remarkable organizational a

[sage-devel] Re: Sage organizational structure, AWOL people

2009-07-30 Thread kcrisman
I agree that overall things are in good shape, with a few comments about potential vulnerabilities: 1) Obviously 'was' is key at this point, as has already been pointed out - though not necessarily for day-to-day operations, which is already a huge step. The more stuff written up, as Robert and

[sage-devel] Re: Sage organizational structure, AWOL people

2009-07-30 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jul 30, 2009, at 9:47 AM, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > There is an article on slashdot today about the CentOS project > admin being AWOL: > > http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/07/30/130249/CentOS-Project- > Administrator-Goes-AWOL?art_pos=4 > > "Lance Davis, the main project administrato

[sage-devel] Re: Sage organizational structure, AWOL people

2009-07-30 Thread Robert Dodier
On Jul 30, 10:47 am, William Stein wrote: > Anyway, I would appreciate people sharing their thoughts about how to make > the Sage project more organized with respect to key people vanishing -- > either temporarily or permantly -- from the project. Well, I'm inclined to think you need less organ

[sage-devel] Re: Sage organizational structure, AWOL people

2009-07-30 Thread David Joyner
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:47 PM, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > ... > -- > > As some of you may have noticed, Sage recently had a similar situation, in > that in late May Michael Abshoff went AWOL -- he posted one message in May > that he was taking a break for a month, and has not been heard

[sage-devel] Re: Sage organizational structure, AWOL people

2009-07-30 Thread John H Palmieri
On Jul 30, 9:47 am, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > There is an article on slashdot today about the CentOS project admin being > AWOL: [snip] > As some of you may have noticed, Sage recently had a similar situation, in > that in late May Michael Abshoff went AWOL -- he posted one message in May