[sage-devel] Re: Using --enable-framework on Mac OS X?

2009-08-03 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Ondrej Certikond...@certik.cz wrote: On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Brian Grangerellisonbg@gmail.com wrote: I just pinged the pythonmac-sig group about why and when a framework build is actually needed.  A while back I created an spkg for qt/pyqt

[sage-devel] Re: Using --enable-framework on Mac OS X?

2009-08-03 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Brian Grangerellisonbg@gmail.com wrote: I just pinged the pythonmac-sig group about why and when a framework build is actually needed.  A while back I created an spkg for qt/pyqt and I remember that I needed to do a framework build to get it to work.  My

[sage-devel] Re: Using --enable-framework on Mac OS X?

2009-08-03 Thread Prabhu Ramachandran
On 08/04/09 00:32, Ondrej Certik wrote: I will dig up my framework python spkg and get back after I hear from the pythonmac-sig folks. Could you please share it? I have created sip (sip is something like swig, needed to built pyqt) and pyqt packages here: Ondrej, I put up a simple spkg

[sage-devel] Re: Using --enable-framework on Mac OS X?

2009-08-03 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Prabhu Ramachandranpra...@aero.iitb.ac.in wrote: On 08/04/09 00:32, Ondrej Certik wrote: I will dig up my framework python spkg and get back after I hear from the pythonmac-sig folks. Could you please share it? I have created sip (sip is something like

Re: [sage-windows] Re: [sage-devel] Re: Using --enable-framework on Mac OS X?

2009-08-03 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:07 PM, William Steinwst...@gmail.com wrote: Also, what is the state of the windows port of Sage --- will it be possible to just maintain one spkg and it would build on windows, or will it be necessary to maintain one spkg for linux/mac and another one for windows?

[sage-devel] Re: Using --enable-framework on Mac OS X?

2009-08-03 Thread bsdz
On 3 Aug, 20:17, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:07 PM, William Steinwst...@gmail.com wrote: Also, what is the state of the windows port of Sage --- will it be possible to just maintain one spkg and it would build on windows, or will it be necessary to

[sage-devel] Re: Using --enable-framework on Mac OS X?

2009-08-03 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:20 PM, bsdzblai...@googlemail.com wrote: On 3 Aug, 20:17, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: Is there some way to install openssh into windows, so that I can leave it running on my workstation somewhere and just use my terminal + ssh to log into there and port to

[sage-devel] Re: Using --enable-framework on Mac OS X?

2009-08-03 Thread bsdz
On 3 Aug, 20:07, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Ondrej Certikond...@certik.cz wrote: On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Brian Grangerellisonbg@gmail.com wrote: I just pinged the pythonmac-sig group about why and when a framework build is

[sage-devel] Re: Using --enable-framework on Mac OS X?

2009-08-03 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:36 PM, William Steinwst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:20 PM, bsdzblai...@googlemail.com wrote: On 3 Aug, 20:17, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:07 PM, William Steinwst...@gmail.com wrote: Also, what is the state of the

[sage-devel] Re: Using --enable-framework on Mac OS X?

2009-05-14 Thread Brian Granger
As is Sage doesn't even build if you do a straight up framework build. This can and will be fixed, but if I have learned one thing about FrameWorks on OSX is to avoid them whenever possible, i.e that absolute crap issue with the IOKit and libpng has scared me for life ;) What are the

[sage-devel] Re: Using --enable-framework on Mac OS X?

2009-05-14 Thread mabshoff
On May 14, 12:42 am, Brian Granger ellisonbg@gmail.com wrote: As is Sage doesn't even build if you do a straight up framework build. This can and will be fixed, but if I have learned one thing about FrameWorks on OSX is to avoid them whenever possible, i.e that absolute crap issue

[sage-devel] Re: Using --enable-framework on Mac OS X?

2009-05-14 Thread Prabhu Ramachandran
On 05/13/09 22:16, Brian Granger wrote: I just pinged the pythonmac-sig group about why and when a framework build is actually needed. A while back I created an spkg for qt/pyqt and I remember that I needed to do a framework build to get it to work. My recollection is that if you want

[sage-devel] Re: Using --enable-framework on Mac OS X?

2009-05-14 Thread Prabhu Ramachandran
On 05/10/09 23:18, mabshoff wrote: Well, it doesn't matter for builds from source too much, the real problem is when a user runs -upgrade for Sage. Sorry for being dense. You mean when the user runs -upgrade with a non-framework install? Suppose a user has a fresh install, would the

[sage-devel] Re: Using --enable-framework on Mac OS X?

2009-05-13 Thread Brian Granger
I just pinged the pythonmac-sig group about why and when a framework build is actually needed. A while back I created an spkg for qt/pyqt and I remember that I needed to do a framework build to get it to work. My recollection is that if you want Python to be able to do anything with the native

[sage-devel] Re: Using --enable-framework on Mac OS X?

2009-05-13 Thread mabshoff
On May 13, 9:46 am, Brian Granger ellisonbg@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brian, I just pinged the pythonmac-sig group about why and when a framework build is actually needed.  A while back I created an spkg for qt/pyqt and I remember that I needed to do a framework build to get it to work.  My

[sage-devel] Re: Using --enable-framework on Mac OS X?

2009-05-10 Thread mabshoff
On May 10, 5:01 am, Prabhu Ramachandran pra...@aero.iitb.ac.in wrote: Hi, Hi Prabhu, I had a mini-vacation and I spent a while trying to get sage working with VTK on a Macbook.  The machine is somewhat slow and experimenting takes a long while.  I've managed to get VTK built with Sage but

[sage-devel] Re: Using --enable-framework on Mac OS X?

2009-05-10 Thread Prabhu Ramachandran
On 05/10/09 21:03, mabshoff wrote: 1. Why isn't --enable-framework turned on by default for the sage python build on the Mac? If this isn't a hassle can you please consider making this the default? It caused some issues in the past and we would have to special case certain bits of

[sage-devel] Re: Using --enable-framework on Mac OS X?

2009-05-10 Thread mabshoff
On May 10, 9:19 am, Prabhu Ramachandran pra...@aero.iitb.ac.in wrote: On 05/10/09 21:03, mabshoff wrote: Hi Prabhu, I don't understand why VTK needs Python to be a framework. Googling around for 5 minutes did not reveal anything useful. Can you give me some pointers and/or

[sage-devel] Re: Using --enable-framework on Mac OS X?

2009-05-10 Thread Prabhu Ramachandran
On 05/10/09 21:58, mabshoff wrote: Linking CXX shared library ../bin/libvtkCommonPythonD.dylib ld: common symbols not allowed with MH_DYLIB output format with the -multi_module option SNIP Ok, check out http://www.mail-archive.com/g...@gcc.gnu.org/msg05799.html for a probable

[sage-devel] Re: Using --enable-framework on Mac OS X?

2009-05-10 Thread mabshoff
On May 10, 10:36 am, Prabhu Ramachandran pra...@aero.iitb.ac.in wrote: On 05/10/09 21:58, mabshoff wrote: Hi Prabhu, SNIP Well, I have seen this when I got the error first time (google is our friend) but didn't believe the answer would work for the simple reason that VTK is really well