Re: [sage-devel] Disputed Pull Requests / Role Sage-Abuse and the Code of Conduct

2024-01-10 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Wed, 2024-01-10 at 06:49 -0800, William Stein wrote: > Dear Sage Developers, > > 1. There are over 20 pull requests labeled as "disputed" [1]. To > resolve these pull requests, we will be appointing an editor with no > direct involvement in the pull request to make a judgement call on > that p

Re: [sage-devel] Disputed Pull Requests / Role Sage-Abuse and the Code of Conduct

2024-01-10 Thread 'Martin R' via sage-devel
Maybe it would make sense to appoint a group of editors, rather than a single editor, and this group decides per vote? I'd feel much better if the responsibility is at least a little bit distributed between several people, and, most importantly, people who have been around for some time. (Plea

Re: [sage-devel] Disputed Pull Requests / Role Sage-Abuse and the Code of Conduct

2024-01-10 Thread Volker Braun
Appointing an editor is not supposed to be part of normal review. This is for the (hopefully rare) cases where we, the community, horribly failed in the code review process and for whatever reason no consensus can be found among the issue participants. The code review should have been a coopera

Re: [sage-devel] Disputed Pull Requests / Role Sage-Abuse and the Code of Conduct

2024-01-10 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 3:21:54 PM UTC Michael Orlitzky wrote: On Wed, 2024-01-10 at 06:49 -0800, William Stein wrote: > Dear Sage Developers, > > 1. There are over 20 pull requests labeled as "disputed" [1]. To > resolve these pull requests, we will be appointing an editor with no

Re: [sage-devel] Disputed Pull Requests / Role Sage-Abuse and the Code of Conduct

2024-01-11 Thread kcrisman
Many of these are disputed for the same underlying reasons. Appointing a different editor for each PR is not likely to help. If you pick an editor from Camp A, he or she will always rule in favor of Camp A; pick an editor from Camp B... The camps are roughly split across the question whethe

Re: [sage-devel] Disputed Pull Requests / Role Sage-Abuse and the Code of Conduct

2024-01-12 Thread 'Martin R' via sage-devel
I just followed a few of the links Matthias posted today, and I must admit that I do not understand a word. Karl pointed out that: > I don't think it's off-topic to once again point out that this way of phrasing it is very developer-centric. That's not a wrong way to look at it, but an end-use

Re: [sage-devel] Disputed Pull Requests / Role Sage-Abuse and the Code of Conduct

2024-01-12 Thread Kwankyu Lee
On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 6:38:31 PM UTC+9 Martin R wrote: I just followed a few of the links Matthias posted today, and I must admit that I do not understand a word. That is normal. Just imagine that you are a passenger on a cruise and happened to enter to the engine room of the ship by

Re: [sage-devel] Disputed Pull Requests / Role Sage-Abuse and the Code of Conduct

2024-01-13 Thread kcrisman
> I don't think it's off-topic to once again point out that this way of phrasing it is very developer-centric. That's not a wrong way to look at it, but an end-user-centric way of looking at it is also valid. It seems to me that "developer" here refers to a very different kind of developer