Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-09-11 Thread Martin Fitzpatrick
Andrew Collier wrote: > > BUT > > the new incompatible files should have been given different extensions. If > somebody gives me a .doc file, I don't know if I can read it or not until > I waste my time trying. You don't think this situation is bad? But the difference with the SAD (v2) is its

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-09-10 Thread Paul Walker
> btw. I haven't found that famous ZLIB yet. Where is it available? The zlib home page is http://www.cdrom.com/pub/infozip/zlib/ The official zlib ftp site is ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/infozip/zlib/ -- Paul Of course Wales has the ability to govern itself, any country has, and Wales has more int

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-09-10 Thread Andrew Collier
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Aley Keprt wrote: > If you don't agree that progress is necessary, and > new "things" cannot be used by old "users", I can't > discuss with you. > > If I will make new SAD comaptible with old one (as you mentioned > HTML), I can't compress it. Don't you know? > > This is my

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-09-10 Thread Aley Keprt
> On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Aley Keprt wrote: > > > I must say again, that I mean internal compression of SAD, > > which won't compile the file header. > > But isn't it easier just to compress the whole thing with zlib? > > > I'm author of SAD, so I think I am allowed to make the > > new version of SA

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-09-10 Thread Andrew Collier
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Aley Keprt wrote: > I must say again, that I mean internal compression of SAD, > which won't compile the file header. But isn't it easier just to compress the whole thing with zlib? > I'm author of SAD, so I think I am allowed to make the > new version of SAD. SAD has a head

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-09-10 Thread Aley Keprt
--- - Original Message - From: Andrew Collier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: 7. záøí 1999 15:04 Subject: Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP > On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, Aley Keprt wrote: > > > > Andrew Collier wrote: > > > > > > >> Internally pa

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-09-07 Thread Andrew Collier
On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, Aley Keprt wrote: > > Andrew Collier wrote: > > > > >> Internally packed SAD is still a SAD. > > It's a compressed sad -- the user *needs* to know this. > > Again: Compressed SAD is still a SAD. Again: Oh no it isn't. the user *needs* to be able to see, at a glance, the diffe

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-09-07 Thread Aley Keprt
> Andrew Collier wrote: > > >Surely it is better to have different extensions for distinguishable file > >types. > > It is. > > [snip] > > >No no no, the filename extension should be meaningful to the user (as well > >as to the computer, if the computer takes any notice of it anyway). > > Yep. Th

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-20 Thread Paul Walker
> > Not releasing the source code when developing is something that simply > > isn't done with OSS. Until now, anyway. > I don't think you are right. Rare it might be, but I bet it still happens. I *know* it still happens, because I'm doing it (currently) with Hurricane. The fact that no-one's a

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-20 Thread Ian Collier
On Wed, Jul 14, 1999 at 09:44:25PM +0100, Stuart Brady wrote: > Not releasing the source code when developing is something that simply > isn't done with OSS. Until now, anyway. I don't think you are right. Rare it might be, but I bet it still happens. In fact, you may be aware that a few months

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-18 Thread James R Curry
> Paul Walker wrote: > > >Either way, the answer is "more than you'd think". I'm with whoever > >suggested .saz, since it follows the .tar.gz -> .taz (or .tgz) example. Or > >provide two versions of the file, or .. oh sod it, use long filenames. Who > >cares anyway? > > You should be able to u

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-18 Thread Stuart Brady
Paul Walker wrote: >Either way, the answer is "more than you'd think". I'm with whoever >suggested .saz, since it follows the .tar.gz -> .taz (or .tgz) example. Or >provide two versions of the file, or .. oh sod it, use long filenames. Who >cares anyway? You should be able to use either, unles

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-18 Thread Paul Walker
> >> I don't think the long filename should be a problem - how many people > >> still use DOS outside of Windows95/98/NT any more? > >How many people still use the old machine known as a SAM Coupe? > And just as soon as somebody compiles SimCoupe for the Sam Coupe, that > question might become rele

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-18 Thread Andrew Collier
>> I don't think the long filename should be a problem - how many people >> still use DOS outside of Windows95/98/NT any more? > >How many people still use the old machine known as a SAM Coupe? And just as soon as somebody compiles SimCoupe for the Sam Coupe, that question might become relevant.

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-17 Thread Stuart Brady
Andrew Collier wrote: >Surely it is better to have different extensions for distinguishable file >types. It is. [snip] >No no no, the filename extension should be meaningful to the user (as well >as to the computer, if the computer takes any notice of it anyway). Yep. That's the standard way o

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-17 Thread Paul Walker
> I don't think the long filename should be a problem - how many people > still use DOS outside of Windows95/98/NT any more? How many people still use the old machine known as a SAM Coupe? Paul -- Luck is my middle name, said Rincewind, indistinctly. Mind you, my first name is Bad. -- Terry Pra

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-16 Thread Stuart Brady
Maria Rookyard wrote: >You mean like standard rose trees or something? Just trees. As long as you can swing on them. -- Stuart Brady

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-16 Thread Stuart Brady
Aley Keprt wrote: [snip] I think Aley's just said what I *meant* to say. :-) Sorry. >Do you all know why we still talk about op.systems, instead of SimCoupe? >Since Si works on his own. That's the problem. >If Si will stop working on his own, we can stop talking about this strange >Microsoft stu

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-16 Thread James R Curry
> I don't think the long filename should be a problem - how many people > still use DOS outside of Windows95/98/NT any more? I do! :) Wow, it seems to my day for arguing with you, doesn't it, Andrew? *grins* -- James R Curry - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The Balloon Doggies DEMANDED it!"

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-16 Thread Nick Humphries
From: Justin Skists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Anyway I thought in DOS mode under Win95 and Win98 you could use long >>filenames transparently - or maybe that was only in NT? I don't use very >>Windows much, you can probably tell... > >DOS prompt, you can.. but DOS programs treat them with the twiddles.

RE: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-16 Thread Justin Skists
>Yes, although I don't know how well this particular system would cope with >a filename containing two dots, like wibble.dsk.gz wibble~1.gz (I just tried it) >Anyway I thought in DOS mode under Win95 and Win98 you could use long >filenames transparently - or maybe that was only in NT? I don't u

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-16 Thread Andrew Collier
On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Nick Humphries wrote: > >Would it be likely to cause a problem if future versions of SimCoupe were > >to require long filename support in the hose operating system? s/hose/host > I thought DOS systems viewed long file names as wibble~1.zip or whatever? If > so, > then so lo

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-16 Thread Nick Humphries
From: Nick Humphries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Correction: >I thought DOS systems viewed long file names as wibble~1.zip or whatever? If so, >then so long as the files required in the emulator program itself are in 8.3 >format, the sight of ~1 would be ugly, but the file would still be useable. I me

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-16 Thread Nick Humphries
From: Andrew Collier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Justin Skists wrote: > >> >I don't think the long filename should be a problem - how many people >> >still use DOS outside of Windows95/98/NT any more? >> >> I do! >> >> (Then again, I'm a multi-platform software engineer..) > >In tha

RE: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-16 Thread Justin Skists
>In that case, I'll rephrase the question slightly: > >Would it be likely to cause a problem if future versions of SimCoupe were >to require long filename support in the hose operating system? Only if I get to drive the fire-engine! :) Seriously, I've no problems with that... Justin.

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-16 Thread Lee Willis
Andrew Collier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In that case, I'll rephrase the question slightly: > > Would it be likely to cause a problem if future versions of SimCoupe were > to require long filename support in the hose operating system? Probably make Simcoupe unusable duing the hot summer mon

RE: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-16 Thread Andrew Collier
On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Justin Skists wrote: > >I don't think the long filename should be a problem - how many people > >still use DOS outside of Windows95/98/NT any more? > > I do! > > (Then again, I'm a multi-platform software engineer..) In that case, I'll rephrase the question slightly: Woul

RE: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-16 Thread Justin Skists
>I don't think the long filename should be a problem - how many people >still use DOS outside of Windows95/98/NT any more? I do! (Then again, I'm a multi-platform software engineer..) Justin.

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-16 Thread Andrew Collier
On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Aley Keprt wrote: > > >You are always able to read the contents of an archive, so it can have > any > > >extension, but I > > >really preffer hte original one (packed SAD will be still SAD). > > > > IMHO, you shouldn't have the same extension for the compressed image and > > f

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-16 Thread Aley Keprt
> Stuart Brady wrote: > >You are always able to read the contents of an archive, so it can have any > >extension, but I > >really preffer hte original one (packed SAD will be still SAD). > > IMHO, you shouldn't have the same extension for the compressed image and > for the uncompressed image... >

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-16 Thread Simon Cooke
Well, if anyone can send me a Mode 3, Mode 1, Mode 2 and Mode 4 screenshot as PC files, I'm sure I can come up with a converter program Thanks, Simon

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-15 Thread Stuart Brady
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aley Keprt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >You are always able to read the contents of an archive, so it can have any >extension, but I >really preffer hte original one (packed SAD will be still SAD). IMHO, you shouldn't have the same extension for the compressed image

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-15 Thread Maria Rookyard
> "Go and get DOS because it's the right STANDARD" -- if we listened > to that sort of advice, we'd all be living in trees. You mean like standard rose trees or something? Maria.

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-15 Thread Andrew Collier
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Aley Keprt wrote: > > %!$$ *&& Aley - look at the context. I'm not talking about documented > > code, I'm talking about a "todo list and some changelogs" which _you_ were > > asking for. > > What? Stuart Brady was asking, not me. Sorry, you're right, it was Stuart who asked

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-15 Thread Aley Keprt
> > > > >4. The only person who knows what he's doing on it is Simon himself. > > > > > > > > That's the problem. At least a todo list and some changelogs would be > > > > better than nothing. > > > > > > Personally I'd rather he spend time coding, than writing up useless > > > documantation. And (

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-15 Thread Nick Humphries
From: Aley Keprt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> From: Stuart Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >>1. He's still working on it. >> > >> >He really should consider releasing the source code whilst he's working >> >on it, so that the Linux and DOS versions have a chance to catch up. >> >> So you're saying that

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-15 Thread Andrew Collier
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Aley Keprt wrote: > > > >4. The only person who knows what he's doing on it is Simon himself. > > > > > > That's the problem. At least a todo list and some changelogs would be > > > better than nothing. > > > > Personally I'd rather he spend time coding, than writing up usel

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-15 Thread Aley Keprt
From: Andrew Collier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >4. The only person who knows what he's doing on it is Simon himself. > > > > That's the problem. At least a todo list and some changelogs would be > > better than nothing. > > Personally I'd rather he spend time coding, than writing up useless > docu

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-15 Thread Aley Keprt
> From: Stuart Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>1. He's still working on it. > > > >He really should consider releasing the source code whilst he's working > >on it, so that the Linux and DOS versions have a chance to catch up. > > So you're saying that people write bug-free code the first time they

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-15 Thread Aley Keprt
> Stuart Brady wrote: > > >I do, however, urge Si Owen to release the code, no matter how buggy or > >incomplete it is. I was under the impression that he was waiting until > >he'd got the basics working first, but he seems to be well past that > >stage, if he's thinking about disk image formats.

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-15 Thread Aley Keprt
> Stuart Brady wrote: > > >1. He's still working on it. > > He really should consider releasing the source code whilst he's working > on it, so that the Linux and DOS versions have a chance to catch up. We (DOS/Linux) are already LOST! :-( I think Si could release a beta version (with or without s

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-15 Thread Andrew Collier
On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Stuart Brady wrote: > >1. He's still working on it. > > He really should consider releasing the source code whilst he's working > on it, so that the Linux and DOS versions have a chance to catch up. I notice you didn't mention the MacOS version Anyway, as we have discus

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-15 Thread Nick Humphries
From: Stuart Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Simon Cooke wrote: > >>"He might be attempting to make the win32 version better than the others"? > >>SO WHAT? > >Oh no... that's a Microsoft tactic, isn't it, so there /can't/ be >anything wrong with it... Innovation is a good thing. Speaking as a progra

RE: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-15 Thread Justin Skists
Stuart Brady wrote: >I do, however, urge Si Owen to release the code, no matter how buggy or >incomplete it is. I was under the impression that he was waiting until >he'd got the basics working first, but he seems to be well past that >stage, if he's thinking about disk image formats. Have you got

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-15 Thread Aley Keprt
> The way I see it, Aley doesn't want to make any new file formats that > people don't like. Aley's also discussing the type of compression to be > used before implementing it. Aley added sad support, but there's > absolutely nothing wrong with adding support for a file format which was > written w

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-14 Thread Stuart Brady
Simon Cooke wrote: >"He might be attempting to make the win32 version better than the others"? >SO WHAT? Oh no... that's a Microsoft tactic, isn't it, so there /can't/ be anything wrong with it... If you're wondering what I'm babbling on about, it might happen to have something to do with an OS

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-14 Thread Ian Collier
On Tue, Jul 13, 1999 at 07:34:01PM -0700, Simon Cooke wrote: > The current format has no concept of sector > addressing, it doesn't know about different length sectors. I was under the impression that the format used for Amstrad disks could do that. Bickbow. Then ag

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-14 Thread Nick Humphries
From: Stuart Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Then again, Windows programmers are all alike -- they've got no respect >for other platforms. DOS programmers are about as bad, too: "Go and get >DOS because it's the right STANDARD" -- if we listened to that sort >of advice, we'd all be living in trees

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-14 Thread Andrew Collier
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Stuart Brady wrote: > I'm wondering how good a zip/tar.gz format would be for a disk -- i.e, > storing the actual files, and not a plain image of the disk. There's > probably little point if you're going to gzip it anyway. It would > involve replacing SamDOS/MasterDOS function

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-14 Thread Simon Cooke
> Si, on the other hand, has modified the dsk format without telling > anyone (and I really hope he hasn't done anything else). All I have to > say is: get the basics working first, then add the extra functionality > *AFTER* you've released the source code. I really hoped Si wouldn't do > this, but

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-13 Thread Stuart Brady
>> Then how do you explain the following in SimCoupe's fdi.h: >> #define SAD_FORMAT_ID "Aley's disk backup" >SAD is *OLDER* than SimCoupe and [EMAIL PROTECTED], so I couldn't discuss it. >Clear? That's fair enough... >No problem. >I just said I don't want to make any new stadrards as Si does.

Re: SimCoupe 0.783a - ZIP

1999-07-12 Thread Aley Keprt
> > since we must discuss the fileformat at first. (I don't want to make my > own standards as Si does.) > > Then how do you explain the following in SimCoupe's fdi.h: > #define SAD_FORMAT_ID "Aley's disk backup" SAD is *OLDER* than SimCoupe and [EMAIL PROTECTED], so I couldn't discuss it. Cle