SD> Re: dual engine

2004-10-26 Thread MoparMn426
You are planning to hack up a c/s AGS for this? What year is it? Whats wrong with it? Also, to anyone planning to undertake this project, I will soon have the front suspension from a daytona available. Baisically, it will be everything from the firewall up, minus fenders, hood, nose and rad

Re: SD> my deciding factor

2004-10-26 Thread Colwell82
"Certainly the idea of cutting out and grafting in an entire engine bay eliminates much of that problem, as it literally includes all the necessary mount points for front IRS, only now in the rear." I was actually thinking about this earlier this summer.. has anyone cut the shock towers out and p

SD> F/S 6 Snow Tires & Rims(Like new) Seattle,Wa.

2004-10-26 Thread Joe Anderson
Are You Ready for Winter? 6 new black steel rims with 185/60/14 studded snow tires.Hardly used,like new. Comes with free chrome five star hubcaps.Front wheel drive only,(except) will not clear big brake daytona's. Don't need them anymore,since selling the 88 csx last summer. $400.00 at Tire Store

Re: SD> dual engine

2004-10-26 Thread Barry Goodall
> If you want 8 cylinders, get a V8. > Richard Paul > While others have addressed the above also, I would like to point out that the "$500" (or less) Shadow at SDAC-14 ran mid-low 13's in the quarter. A V8 in one of our cars would not only require about as much fabrication, but it simply would no

Re: SD> Twin engine shadow

2004-10-26 Thread Brian Schulteis
You should email some pictures of this car to Monster Garage. They have a page with pictures of viewer's monsters. This one definately qualifies. If you ever get bored with that car, I bet it would fetch a small fortune on Ebay. I know I'd bid on it. Crazy fabrication or not, the hard part is done.

Re: SD> dual engine

2004-10-26 Thread MrCoolCar
STUPID FRIGGIN' AOL can't paste correctly... Try this. <<> Absolutely no need for two alternators. What I would suggest is to ditch an alternator. Uh-oh... then one engine has a little more power than the other. O.K... ditch the alternator off the front engine and the powe

Re: SD> dual engine

2004-10-26 Thread MrCoolCar
In a message dated 10/26/2004 12:50:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So now if we consider that you can weld in the entire inner engine bay into the rear of, say, a G body, you would then have ready-to-go shock towers which covers the basic suspension fab needs. All you do th

Re: SD> dual engine

2004-10-26 Thread GLHSHELBY
In a message dated 10/26/2004 8:28:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A V-8 RWD conversion would be about the same amount of work since you would have to cut up the rear of the car to mount the rear axle/pumpkin. This is after you build a new tunnel and K-member (since you

Re: SD> dual engine

2004-10-26 Thread GLHSHELBY
In a message dated 10/26/2004 7:56:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > It's not about 8 cyllinders. No offense, but if you had followed the > thread more closely, the jist was about AWD and durability and ease > compared to minivan driveline. The eight cyllinder comment w

RE: SD> dual engine

2004-10-26 Thread Mullikin, Stefan P
Well, they are still making inline 5 and 6 cylinder motors... And I think they do still make inline 8's just their for diesel vehicles :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clay Cooke Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 5:54 PM To: SDML Subject:

Re: SD> dual engine

2004-10-26 Thread Clay Cooke
what about a straight 8?? I mean, I know they havent made them for years, but dont descriminate against the straight 8. > If you want 8 cylinders, get a V8. > Richard Paul ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be

RE: SD> dual engine

2004-10-26 Thread Mullikin, Stefan P
Richard, Most manufacturer's AWD systems aren't strong enough to handle drag launches, especially when the car is producing more power than it did stock. Quaiffe makes a 6-speed sequential AWD transaxle (for either transverse or north/south mounting) but that's at least $20K and its limited to ab

Re: SD> dual engine

2004-10-26 Thread Richard Paul
Every year or so we have the AWD discussion on SDML. I have followed many. The point is it is easier to put a V8 in with RWD and you get better results. AWD is a bandaid for FWD in this case. Not to many AWD dragsters. Had Jeeps but AWD was for a different purpose. Richard Paul On Oct 26, 200

RE: SD> dual engine

2004-10-26 Thread Jason Arroyo
It's not about 8 cyllinders. No offense, but if you had followed the thread more closely, the jist was about AWD and durability and ease compared to minivan driveline. The eight cyllinder comment was unnecessary. -J Southern California Forced Induction 1989 Dodge Daytona Shelby Turbo II 1986 Chr

SD> dual engine

2004-10-26 Thread Richard Paul
If you want 8 cylinders, get a V8. Richard Paul ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html

SD>poly mounts problem solved!

2004-10-26 Thread veriloquent
It was 90% the front radiator mount The ultimate solution was understanding how to use the application. Your poly mount kit will come with some extra spacers that look like big round washers. In the installation instructions it appears that these must go inside the front cup mount. Due to manufa

SD>poly mounts problem solved!

2004-10-26 Thread veriloquent
-- Original message -- > Glad to hear it! John's a great guy and always willing to help. > > So what was the ultimate solution? The dog bone or? > > Stefan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL P

RE: SD> my deciding factor

2004-10-26 Thread Jason Arroyo
Gosh where to begin? LOL. The idea I envisioned conceals the rear engine 100%. Possibly even still allows some hatch space, but with reduced storage depth. It would kinda reselble an 80's camaro rear hatch area, including the rearmost lower area of one. As far as safety and legality goes, both wi

SD> my deciding factor

2004-10-26 Thread geoff rolling
so anyways, i think the deciding factor for me in this single/duel engine debate would be daily drivability and if you wanted to put the car on the road and/or retain a stock or near stock appearance. or if you were strictly using this as a racer. it would be hard to keep a stock looking car wit

RE: SD> dual engine

2004-10-26 Thread Jason Arroyo
Damn, why can't you guys live in southern California? I have two G-bodies that I would offer up to slaughter for this. -J Southern California Forced Induction 1989 Dodge Daytona Shelby Turbo II 1986 Chrysler Laser XE Turbo 1990 Plymouth Laser RS Turbo 1991 Mitsu Eclispe GSX Turbo(for sale) 1990

RE: SD> dual engine

2004-10-26 Thread Jason Arroyo
I'm thinking now that those aftermarket gauge cluster packages from Autometer and other companies (that includes tach and speedo, oil pressure, water, etc.) is a good deal, and would make mounting, say above the glove compartment and at an angle (say 35-45 degrees), a snap, and cover your secondset

Re: SD> dual engine

2004-10-26 Thread Jeff Chojnacki
Keeping the rack was easier by far. The wheels were straigened out and a short peice of bar stock was welded to the steering input shaft and to the firewall. Any minor alignment changes then could easily be done with the tie-rods like on any car. It took Tom like 10 minutes to set it up. Two da

RE: SD> dual engine

2004-10-26 Thread Mullikin, Stefan P
Solid beam wouldn't work. I'd just use a pair of steering arms that bolted to the K-member or lower control arm. Same thing they did on the Pontiac Fiero's and Fiat X-1/9's. Have you seen the inside of a multi-engine airplane cockpit? There is a standard set of gauges used for an engine. This

RE: SD> awd Daytona

2004-10-26 Thread Jason Arroyo
Why not make a custom throttle body cable to the rear that terminates at the gas pedal, so pressing it down actuates both evenly? Hmm I wonder what the advantages might be between dual automatic and manual/auto combo? -J Southern California Forced Induction 1989 Dodge Daytona Shelby Turbo II 19

RE: SD> dual engine

2004-10-26 Thread Jason Arroyo
Alright, why not replace the rack altogether with a solid beam, bent to shape? Sorta like how we replace the bobble struts with solid dogbones. Two dashes? As in for the tach and dummy lights? Hmm what special brand of pain in the *ss is THAT to locate and mount? -J Southern California Forced I

Re: SD> awd Daytona

2004-10-26 Thread Jeff Chojnacki
The shadow has two ancient and crusty Automatics in it. You could run 1 manual and 1 auto, but we thought it was best to run 2 autos. The driver has got enough stuff going on with the steering wheel, the brake pedal, the front engine throttle pedal, and the rear engine's hand throttle. No imang

Re: SD> dual engine

2004-10-26 Thread Jeff Chojnacki
- Original Message - From: "Jason Arroyo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "sdml" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:46 AM Subject: RE: SD> dual engine > So now if we consider that you can weld in the entire inner engine bay > into the rear of, say, a G body, you would then have

RE: SD> awd Daytona

2004-10-26 Thread Jason Arroyo
No, my point is that the gains far outweigh the perceived "loss", so in essence there IS no loss seeing as it is outweighed by the gains. DSM drivetrain sucks tho. It may very well lose more when comparing an AWD automatic DSM to twin engine/automatics like I suggest. However the manual AWD DSM wo

Re: SD> dual engine

2004-10-26 Thread Chad Brown
> So now if we consider that you can weld in the entire inner engine bay > into the rear of, say, a G body, you would then have ready-to-go shock > towers which covers the basic suspension fab needs. All you do then is > fashion joints for the A-arm. Hmmm do you use a front sway bar in the > rear?

Re: SD> awd Daytona

2004-10-26 Thread Jeff Chojnacki
So, your saying two A413s with converters, front pumps, et al consumes less power than the DSM AWD setup? Cool, score another one for ExtremePSI! Jeff Chojnacki http://home.wi.rr.com/jpcturbo '87 Lebaron 2.2 T2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] '88 Daytona Shelby Z '88 Caravan TBI Waukesha, WI. Member Extrem

SD> tons of shelby stuff on ebay

2004-10-26 Thread Robert Pape
Hey all, last ditch effort to sell all my shelby stuff to fund new project. I placed everything on Ebay. You can check out this auction, them click on "sellers other items" to see the rest. there are about 20 Shelby Dodge auction. Thanks for looking. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP

SD> FS> shift knob, 16v 88 style block, oil pan, L-body parts, hybrid parts,etc.

2004-10-26 Thread liam kelly
I have the following auctions on ebay: 1) AC Compressor used $5.00 open bid 2) TBI Intake manifold without EGR openings, allows you to remove the EGR system more easily to make your car idle better $10.00 open bid 3) L-Body interior parts for a red interior. $5.00 open bid I have these set up s

RE: SD> dual engine

2004-10-26 Thread Jason Arroyo
So now if we consider that you can weld in the entire inner engine bay into the rear of, say, a G body, you would then have ready-to-go shock towers which covers the basic suspension fab needs. All you do then is fashion joints for the A-arm. Hmmm do you use a front sway bar in the rear? But what

RE: SD> awd Daytona

2004-10-26 Thread Jason Arroyo
Jeff, let's put this into perspective...with ONE engine at 150hp and an automatic transmission, you lose, say, 20 hp. Just a ballpark figure. Not accurate. But say 20. Leaving you with 130 to the wheels. Add your second 150hp engine and auto trans, and you put an ADDITIONAL 130whp in the rears. Le

Re: SD> awd Daytona

2004-10-26 Thread Jeff Chojnacki
One disadvantage of two engines is power train loss. Even if two T1s making 160hp equals 320hp, you loose twice the power going through two transmissions. With 2 automatics, loss is around 40 to 50hp. Jeff Chojnacki http://home.wi.rr.com/jpcturbo '87 Lebaron 2.2 T2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] '88 Dayton

RE: SD> awd Daytona

2004-10-26 Thread Jason Arroyo
Ahh, than kyou Rob, that adds to yet another reason to go twin engine AWD. -J Southern California Forced Induction 1989 Dodge Daytona Shelby Turbo II 1986 Chrysler Laser XE Turbo 1990 Plymouth Laser RS Turbo 1991 Mitsu Eclispe GSX Turbo(for sale) 1990 VW Corrado G60 Supercharged (possibly revive

SD> awd Daytona

2004-10-26 Thread Rob P
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SD> 90 Daytona relay questions

2004-10-26 Thread Sean Boire
I was just wondering about some relays in a 90 Daytona. We are having a problem with the fuel pump not coming on, And I was wondering what all those relays are for inside the car under the drivers side compartment. Is there a relay for the fuel pump in there? Or can someone tell me where the fue