Robert. Have you ever played around with the Equaliser from the PCS? Great tool
for everyone to be on the same page.
André.
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From: Robert Devino
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Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm
+/- 0.25 Hosel Depth = 2 CPM. +/- 2 Grams Head wt. = 1 CPM.
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From: Harry F. Schiestel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:42 PM
Subject: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?
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What frequency meter are you using? Could be a function of how well the
shaft is clamped at 2.5 vs. 5 clamp length. The possibility of wobble
at 2.5 clamp length goes up significantly as the shaft gets stiffer and
oscillates at a higher frequency.
Tedd
Andre I have not used the Equalizer by pcs what does it do ?
Tedd, I am using a Mitchell set up. I don't think that's a factor becuase a
wobble would create a slope getting softer at the shorter clubs not stiffer.
Sincerely,
Robert Devino
14252 Delano St.
Van Nuys, Ca. 91401
(818) 770-0475
I took it from your post that when you measured a set of clubs at 2.5
clamp length, they fit onto the straight line slope as predicted,
however, when you measured using the 5 clamp length, the long irons
looked fine but the short irons gave frequency measurements higher than
expected. The
The 254 gm tip weight I use is a modifed drill chuck. I use it to establish
freqs on sets of uncut iron shafts. That's for sorting them. When putting clubs
together I use the actual heads, which are also weighted to so-called
standard weights starting with an assumed 254 gram 5 iron head, then
Ugh I'll buy that, it makes sense. It would be cool if we could find one
system for all that gave us real readings. It would do alot so far as getting
some kind of standard for us all to go buy.
When I was at HotStix we had a machine that used a drill chuck type clamp. We
used it for
That's pretty much exactly what I do, with the exception of weighting
the actual heads to whatever weight I need them to get my projected
swingweight (might be based on a 254g 5-iron in one set and a 260g
5-iron in another set).
Tedd
From:
I know that with a GS frequency unit, you will likely have problems
using a 2.5 clamp length due to the design of their clamp (5+ long
with slightly angled, smooth, top and bottom jaws). Depending on the
type of shaft (stepped or unstepped), I occasionally have problems at
3.25 (my Brunswick
Robert,
Regarding the method at HotStix..I assume that if you were going
to build irons for a specific player, you'd have one frequency target
for Rifles and a different for non-Rifles because of the different
clamping length which causes different cantilevered beam lengths. Is
that
we always went off a rifle scale but yeah the frequency's were different. I
didn't have the luxery of doing comparisons when I was there but here I have
found about a 20 cycle difference between clamps until you get to the higher
frequency sets and the shorter irons in those sets the
I understand the frequency difference, but I don't understand your
statement about using the Rifle scale (I assume you mean freq chart)
for non rifle products. If you thought a person needed a 6.0 in a
Rifle, but they wanted TT, would you then build the TT, using the
normal Rifle chart,
This sure has opened up a can of worms, what is a true R, S, X flex?
Yes indeedy!
You may recall we went through this exercise a couple years ago, with no
significant results or agreement.
I've said many times that the letter designation for flex, like the number
designation for irons is essentially meaningless. Every mfr has a different
take on what's R or S
At Hotstix we yes used the rifle chart (scale). We were given a frequency and
just made the adjustment at the clamp for the type of shaft it was. So far as
how far towards the head of the club off the finished length we put at
the inside edge of the clamp. Here at KZG we just change clamps in
I wish we could get iron shafts like that in three frequency ranges but still
close enough to build a set with. Basically that's what you do when you build
a set of Flighted Rifles from blanks. So made a flighted set that's cool!
Sincerely,
Robert Devino
14252 Delano St.
Van Nuys, Ca.
At 09:18 PM 12/9/2008, Robert Devino wrote:
Now Dave your gonna love this. Recently we have started testing the
FitChip . Well it's been giving us some pretty interesting
numbers to build for people...
Low and behold, my swing speed, ball speed and distance all went up.
Was the your [sic]
Hi Robert.
The Equalizer is a software program that was built for standardizing shaft
flex for the golf Industry. This system was introduced by the PCS a couple of
years back for members
only. The package included a shaft with a predetermined frequency( precision
shaft with a high
Robert. Tim at Myostrich has all about it on his website if interested:
http://www.myostrichgolf.com/equalizer/
André.
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Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:01 AM
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