RE: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect

2002-07-06 Thread Tom Wishon
] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect How far does your ball loss data go back? There is a big difference in yesterdays wound ball and today's two piece ball in compression losses. llhack - Original Message - From: "Tom Wishon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect

2002-07-06 Thread Lloyd Hackman
, 2002 12:21 PM Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect > Guys: > Been reading your comments on spring face with interest. Lots and lots > of things to comment on but don't want to make this too long, so I will > try to hit the high points about which I think mine an

RE: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect

2002-07-04 Thread Tom Wishon
Behalf Of Max Dupilka Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect Dave: Comment below: > > > And on the matter of the USGA testing of the thin face drivers I > > designed that were for lower swing speeds. The US

Re: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect

2002-07-03 Thread Max Dupilka
Dave: Comment below: > > > And on the matter of the USGA testing of the thin face drivers I > > designed that were for lower swing speeds. The USGA will conduct their > > COR test at ball firing speed less than their standard of 109mph if you > > tell them that the head is designed so it would

Re: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect

2002-07-03 Thread Dave Tutelman
Tom, Thanks for the response. Specific comments below... - Original Message - From: Tom Wishon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 10:01 AM > Dave, Max: > So you are asking, if a head has the same or nearly the same COR > regardless of head speed, then how would a thinner

Re: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect

2002-07-02 Thread Max Dupilka
Dave: Your explanation sounds reasonable to me. I will have to have a look at that article. I haven't read the Part III book yet. My whole purpose of this question is this. If a company can make an at the legal limit COR club that can withstand a 130 mph swing speed, and the COR varies only a sm

Re: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect

2002-07-02 Thread Dave Tutelman
Followup to my previous note... - Original Message - From: Dave Tutelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 7:44 PM > Going to an optimum spring-face (with the assumption of light damping) from > a rigid spring face gives: > * For the 112mph swinger, a COR improvement of

Re: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect

2002-07-02 Thread Dave Tutelman
- Original Message - From: Max Dupilka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 6:12 PM > So it looks like we have a bit of differing opinions here. Dave, you would > suggest that the COR, for a given clubhead/ball combo, is close to a > constant for all clubhead speeds. Tom see

Re: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect

2002-07-02 Thread Max Dupilka
Dave and Tom: So it looks like we have a bit of differing opinions here. Dave, you would suggest that the COR, for a given clubhead/ball combo, is close to a constant for all clubhead speeds. Tom seems to indicate that the COR is non linear enough to make a significant difference. It seems a lo

RE: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect

2002-07-02 Thread Tom Wishon
EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gary Tarbet Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect Tom, Appreciate the input. The one question I have from your information is what affect does different types of bal

RE: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect

2002-07-02 Thread Gary Tarbet
use different ball types? Gary T. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Wishon Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect Guys: Been reading your comments on spring

RE: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect

2002-07-02 Thread Tom Wishon
Guys: Been reading your comments on spring face with interest. Lots and lots of things to comment on but don't want to make this too long, so I will try to hit the high points about which I think mine and my engineering consultant's knowledge is pretty solid. 1. Perhaps the worst piece of mis

Re: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect

2002-07-01 Thread tflan
Dave T you rat ;-) Here I am with several demo illegal driver heads installed on several different shafts. My old fart customers are conviced they hit it farther and straighter with them. What to do, what to do? Seriously though, I played an illegal AerMet with 4 different shafts installed. On a

Re: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect

2002-07-01 Thread Dave Tutelman
trength you need. Maybe not from Golfsmith, but definitely from Clubmaker Online. Cheers! DaveT - Original Message - From: Max Dupilka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 10:34 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect &

Re: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect

2002-07-01 Thread Max Dupilka
Dave: I have tried to get an answer about this question of whether the trampoline effect (COR) varies with clubhead speed, but I haven't had much success. I tend to believe what you are saying, that the COR for a given clubhead is pretty well constant for all clubhead speeds. If that is the case

Re: ShopTalk: Swingspeed vs. trampoline effect

2002-07-01 Thread Dave Tutelman
- Original Message - From: Tom Janson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 7:05 PM > I heard some guys talking today about the interaction of > swing speed and the trampoline effect. One guy swore > that with a swing speed below 100 mph there is no > trampoline effect. Others