Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-17 Thread Burgess Howell
Yep, I can see where your sort of swing might not benefit so much.  OTOH, and I probably didn't emphasize it enough, the push back with the left shoulder is important.  If you can force yourself to get the "push back" feeling from the left instead of the "pull back" feeling from the right, it hel

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-17 Thread comgolf
ubject: Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing Burgess,I thought I'd report my experience with this drill.  The bottom line is that drills, like golf swings, can vary by individual.  What works for one might not work for another.I tried the "ring the bell" drill just bef

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-17 Thread James Kaar
And...just for kicks, try that "coin (or tee) a couple of feet in front of and outside the target line" drill that was suggested by a couple of us a couple of weeks ago.   While it may seem too elementary to be true and do any goodto get the club head through the ball and over a little targ

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-17 Thread Ed Reeder
Burgess, I thought I'd report my experience with this drill.  The bottom line is that drills, like golf swings, can vary by individual.  What works for one might not work for another. I tried the "ring the bell" drill just before I had a lesson and it seemed to help.  My instructor is curious

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-15 Thread Jen Kuntz
Sorry for the delay... just wanted to say thanks to all who replied. There were a number of great ideas in the responses that I'd never have thought of. I am trying and have tried a number of the suggestions already to find what seems to work for my pea brain! Thanks, Jen

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-08 Thread Bernie Baymiller
d still can get it about 235.   BernieWrite to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]     - Original Message - From: comgolf To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 12:41 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing Geezz, I wish you could personally look at my swing. Maybe i&#

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-08 Thread comgolf
From: Bernie Baymiller To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:05 AM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing Jay,   I've built a lot of 48" drivers for golf course play and that's kind of an unusual result for someone hi

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-08 Thread Bernie Baymiller
ith the shorter club resulted in the higher score.   BernieWrite to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]           - Original Message - From: comgolf To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 10:29 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing This sounds like something

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-07 Thread comgolf
ut fear that was just for starters. I seem to still hit my middle to short stuff fine (but anything long) and it's like the above mentioned.   Appreciate any ideas?Jay     - Original Message - From: tflan To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 2:02 PM Subje

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-07 Thread James Kaar
Gotta agree with Donald's suggestion ...it's always helped me.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jen Kuntz writes: Jen, I visited an old pro (golf) some years ago when I suffered from a dreadful slice.By the end of the lesson I was drawing a 3Wd.His solution. Addrsss the ball as normal and then pick out a ma

RE: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing (Mark Patton)

2006-05-07 Thread Mark A Patton
.com Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing (Mark Patton) Mark, The spin-out is the problem I seem to have. A lot of times my left foot ends up pointing at the target, but more often than not it ends up pointing way left of target. The turf under my feet often show a swirl pattern and is

RE: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-07 Thread Tom Barnett
ehalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 12:48 PM To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing   In a message dated 5/7/2006 12:34:42 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill, I'm always having the same problem. If you wou

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-07 Thread tflan
he plate in one direction or another and observe which way the arc of the swing changes. It's interesting.   TFlan   - Original Message - From: Jen Kuntz To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 5:33 AM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swi

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-07 Thread REDEEMD
In a message dated 5/7/2006 12:34:42 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill, I'm always having the same problem. If you wouldn't mind, could you send me the info also? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Bill,   I'd love to have the information too.  Could you send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-07 Thread Kevin Cahill
l.msen.com Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing Jen, It's your lucky day! I've made many, many of these inside/out devices for my grandsons and all the kids that our pro teaches at Cool Creek CC. The total cost of about $3 bucks each or a lot cheaper if you want to go int

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing (Mark Patton)

2006-05-07 Thread Arniesclubs
In a message dated 5/7/06 12:47:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The spin-out is the problem I seem to have Here's the cure! Setup with your back toward the target and hit about ten balls! No more slicing when returning to normal setup. Jen, due to the current situ

RE: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing (Mark Patton)

2006-05-07 Thread Richard Wampler
inside it. Mark A Patton <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jen Kuntz Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 8:33 AM To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing Tom,

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-07 Thread donald . campbell
Jen Kuntz writes: Jen, I visited an old pro (golf) some years ago when I suffered from a dreadful slice. By the end of the lesson I was drawing a 3Wd. His solution. Addrsss the ball as normal and then pick out a mark, divot anything about 4" ouside the ball & about 12" in front. Swing the cl

RE: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-07 Thread Mark A Patton
Hello Jen, I hope all else is well.   Could it be that you are not really coming from the outside, but you are pulling to the inside too hard  (IE: what I call spinning out)? Hard to explain but:   If you were to visualize the correct path on the ground, your swing starts out on that path

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-07 Thread Jen Kuntz
Tom, you're breakin' my heart congrats on the grandson... what am I going to do with all my spare time??  ; )) Re: square stance... are you saying I must be open or closed to accomplish this poor swing?  Honestly... if I had a camera I'd take a video.  I don't know when this started but I

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-07 Thread Jen Kuntz
Hi Bill, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! Jen Bill C Swingler wrote: Jen, It's your lucky day! I've made many, many of these inside/out devices for my grandsons and all the kids that our pro teaches at Cool Creek CC. The total cost of about $3 bucks each or a lot cheaper if you want to go into

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-06 Thread Bernie Baymiller
L PROTECTED]> To: "Shoptalk" Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing Hey gang, I've been fighting an out to in swing path for a little over a year now and having trouble with ways to practise to get rid of it. I tried the "inside ap

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-06 Thread TOM FLANAGAN
Jen, my once and only; You may recall I had a long give and take about this very subject a couple years ago. Briefly, the point was this; unless you adopt a particularly awkward stance, it's physically impossible to drive the clubhead through the hitting zone with an inside path with even mediocre

RE: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-06 Thread Tom Barnett
One month FREE spam protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/spamnetsig/? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Burgess Howell Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 5:19 PM To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing At 03

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-06 Thread André Cantin
ent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 5:28 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing > Payne Stewart had a great drill that he used to do with an old cut off > shaft, where you would stick it into the ground at about a 45 deg. > angleso that the grip end was out past the ball and the cut off

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-06 Thread Burgess Howell
At 03:51 PM 5/6/2006, Jen wrote: I've been fighting an out to in swing path... This is absolutely my bogeyman. If anything is going to screw up my swing, it's the old 'over the top' move. My drill is pretty simple. First, I force myself to start the takeaway by *pushing* with the left sh

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-06 Thread Sean Weijand
If you are working at a range with mats a simple thing that has helped me is to take some children's sidewalk chalk and draw the path you want your club to follow. The idea is your subconscious sees the path and swings the club along it. sean On 6-May-06, at 1:51 PM, Jen Kuntz wrote: Hey

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-06 Thread Bill C Swingler
; To: "Shoptalk" Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing Hey gang, I've been fighting an out to in swing path for a little over a year now and having trouble with ways to practise to get rid of it. I tried the "inside approach" t

Re: ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-06 Thread Steve Longeway
Payne Stewart had a great drill that he used to do with an old cut off shaft, where you would stick it into the ground at about a 45 deg. angleso that the grip end was out past the ball and the cut off part was in the ground about 16" behind the ball and you would swing under the shaft on the d

ShopTalk: Tips for out to in swing

2006-05-06 Thread Jen Kuntz
Hey gang, I've been fighting an out to in swing path for a little over a year now and having trouble with ways to practise to get rid of it. I tried the "inside approach" thing this winter and it was ok but I don't want to buy one. I've also tried just using a couple sticks/shafts parallel