Re: [sidr] Injecting idea of freshness of repository data into BGP

2012-03-29 Thread Andrew Lange
On Mar 29, 2012, at 5:01 AM, Randy Bush wrote: Serial Notify, sec 5.2 of draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-26.txt, provides such a mechanism Not what I'm talking about. What notifies a cache that it needs to fetch new objects from a RPKI repository? As best I understood, it's largely done on cron

Re: [sidr] SIDR ReCharter - to capture/cover path validation work

2011-02-28 Thread Andrew Lange
. Scudder wrote: Andrew, On Feb 24, 2011, at 1:17 AM, Andrew Lange wrote: Given the thread, I can understand your frustration. And, I could have made myself more clear. I'll try: given the policies that AS_B might be implementing, we cannot know for certain, without AS_B publishing

Re: [sidr] SIDR ReCharter - to capture/cover path validation work

2011-02-28 Thread Andrew Lange
split it's route-objects into the more specifics and register them. Andrew On Feb 24, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Sriram, Kotikalapudi wrote: Andrew, Comment below. Sriram -Original Message- From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:sidr-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Lange Sent

Re: [sidr] SIDR ReCharter - to capture/cover path validation work

2011-02-28 Thread Andrew Lange
assertion that it would be useful to have a relationship object and gently trying to understand your reasoning behind holding that view. Geoff On 24/02/2011, at 9:12 AM, Andrew Lange wrote: Geoff, Do you disagree as to its utility? Andrew On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Geoff

Re: [sidr] SIDR ReCharter - to capture/cover path validation work

2011-02-28 Thread Andrew Lange
overhead? (yes, I know that data integrity becomes an issue, but data integrity is always an issue.) Andrew On Feb 28, 2011, at 8:16 PM, Andrew Lange wrote: John, But wouldn't a record of an existing announcement also show that AS_B did in fact announce which of AS_A's routes and in what form

Re: [sidr] SIDR ReCharter - to capture/cover path validation work

2011-02-23 Thread Andrew Lange
Hi Sandy, Reply is inline. On Feb 23, 2011, at 2:52 AM, Sandra Murphy wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Andrew Lange wrote: To divert the discussion a bit back into the realm of requirements. What is the current diameter of the Internet? From my recollections it was converging toward about

Re: [sidr] SIDR ReCharter - to capture/cover path validation work

2011-02-23 Thread Andrew Lange
Geoff, Do you disagree as to its utility? Andrew On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Geoff Huston wrote: On 24/02/2011, at 8:09 AM, Robert Loomans wrote: On 24/02/2011, at 09:17, Andrew Lange wrote: From a work item perspective, it would be useful to have a relationship object signed

Re: [sidr] SIDR ReCharter - to capture/cover path validation work

2011-02-22 Thread Andrew Lange
To divert the discussion a bit back into the realm of requirements. What is the current diameter of the Internet? From my recollections it was converging toward about 4 ASes in diameter. This would mean that for most paths we have: AS_A -- AS_B -- AS_C -- AS_D If we have already