Re: [silk] Finding coders on the subcontinent

2006-10-31 Thread Neha Viswanathan
Sure, demand outstrips supply, and there's a vast pool of unqualifiedpeople trying their best to get their foot in the door, but surely this doesn't mean there are no qualified people? Oh, thank you. :) Reading your mail suddenly reminded me why I freelance instead of holding a steady job. Despit

Re: [silk] Finding coders on the subcontinent

2006-10-31 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 01/Nov/2006, at 11:42 AM, Udhay Shankar N wrote: I strongly suggest you use some of the upcoming FoU camp to talk about this in detail. I know that I, for one, will have lots to add. Udhay, who once added 5 pages of junk reversing the usual order of things to a consulting contract just t

Re: [silk] passport renewals...

2006-10-31 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
On 11/1/06, Indrajit Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's automatic renewal after a certain age, and I'm getting past that with the current validity. I believe there are separate queues for senior citizens, IG. Ram

Re: [silk] Finding coders on the subcontinent

2006-10-31 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: [ on 11:23 AM 11/1/2006 ] Not to take a contrarian standpoint, but, in my experience, companies are no less at fault. I strongly suggest you use some of the upcoming FoU camp to talk about this in detail. I know that I, for one, will have lots to add. Udhay, who

Re: [silk] passport renewals...

2006-10-31 Thread Indrajit Gupta
If you're right, and I do hope you are, I shall immediately suspend all travel and get this done, because they're going to throw the book at me for renewal. It's automatic renewal after a certain age, and I'm getting past that with the current validity. So an automatic renewal is a goodly thing, Go

Re: [silk] Finding coders on the subcontinent

2006-10-31 Thread Indrajit Gupta
Of course you are right - in the larger context. In the immediate context, it is also easier to find good German programmers, because in Germany, programmers tend to be those who want to programme as a career, not those swept in by the currently-prevailing wave.   Regarding your point about commu

Re: [silk] Finding coders on the subcontinent

2006-10-31 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 30/Oct/2006, at 11:49 PM, Kragen Sitaker wrote: Found this article from last year, by Kevin Barnes, pretty interesting. It sounds pretty similar to some experiences other people on this list have shared, but has some more details. Vipul in particular I remember talking about how hard it was

Re: [silk] passport renewals...

2006-10-31 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Badri Natarajan wrote: > This didn't happen to me either. I got a new booklet in April 2005 at > the Chennai office and it is only valid till the original passport's > expiry date (2011). seemed a new idea - late sep 2005 is when i got my last passport > I have a bunch of old booklets with visas

Re: [silk] passport renewals...

2006-10-31 Thread Badri Natarajan
--On 31 October 2006 23:01:25 +0530 Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All at the chennai regional passport office And these days when you get an add'l booklet they automatically extend the validity of your passport to 10 years from the date of issue. So my passport which I

Re: [silk] passport renewals...

2006-10-31 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Deepa Mohan [31/10/06 23:06 +0530]: wow! That didn't happen to me...when did you give in your passport? sounds like things are indeed improving...a consummation devoutly to be wished! sep 2005. shiney new machine readable passport too (my 2004 passport was machine readable too, my origin

Re: [silk] passport renewals...

2006-10-31 Thread Deepa Mohan
And these days when you get an add'l booklet they automatically extend thevalidity of your passport to 10 years from the date of issue. So mypassport which I got an addl booklet for in 2005, which had an expiry date of 2010, got a new expiry date of 2015.    wow! That didn't happen to me...when did

Re: [silk] passport renewals...

2006-10-31 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Indrajit Gupta [31/10/06 15:48 +]: It's different inside India and outside. My passport needs an extra book. In Chennai it is expected to take some time - several weeks, which I can't afford. When I contacted our partners in Canada, they had a quick word with the local High Commission

Re: [silk] passport renewals...

2006-10-31 Thread Deepa Mohan
It's different inside India and outside.   Indeed it is. My new booklet took several weeks, here in Bangalore. And the US visa is in one booklet, the reference in the new booklet is to yet another one, so I have to take along a sheaf of these things when I travel. Very bulky.   Deepa.  On 10/31/0

Re: [silk] Finding coders on the subcontinent

2006-10-31 Thread Devdas Bhagat
On 31/10/06 06:24 +, Indrajit Gupta wrote: > All said and done, I get a lot more out of my two-and-a-half people > in the UK than out of a very large number in Chennai. I'd rather hire > one good German programmer than hire 30 bad programmers at 1/30 the > cost each. Cue reference to The My

Re: [silk] Finding coders on the subcontinent

2006-10-31 Thread Ramjee Swaminathan
On 10/31/06, Devdas Bhagat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cue reference to The Mythical Man Month. A good programmer is 10 times as productive as an average one. Nationality doesn't matter. I agree with Devdas on the notionality angle; luckily melanin does not seem to play a role at all. :-) Per

Re: [silk] passport renewals...

2006-10-31 Thread Vardhini Shankar
My experience was pretty much the same when I did it in '04 in the Indian consulate at San Francisco.  - Original Message From: ashok _ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: silklist@lists.hserus.netSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 5:12:06 AMSubject: [silk] passport renewals...i renewed my passport (indian

Re: [silk] passport renewals...

2006-10-31 Thread Indrajit Gupta
It's different inside India and outside. My passport needs an extra book. In Chennai it is expected to take some time - several weeks, which I can't afford. When I contacted our partners in Canada, they had a quick word with the local High Commission, and they were told the whole thing would be ove

Re: [silk] passport renewals...

2006-10-31 Thread Thaths
On 10/31/06, ashok _ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was pretty surprised by the efficiency of the processconsidering how complicated all these procedures used to be. Is it the same everywhere else? Last time I renewed my passport was back in '02. It took 2 days in the San Francisco Consu

Re: [silk] passport renewals...

2006-10-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Deepa:Almost all high commissions and consulates of India renew your passports the same day if you met their deadline and their requirments. New Passports are delivered the next day.   But, you must meet all their requirements... and that includes having a valid visa or permanent residency card o

Re: [silk] passport renewals...

2006-10-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am surprised.   SF Consulate renews and returns it the same day if you turn in your passport before 10.30 am. Or else you get it the next day.   Did you delay in picking up the passport? People find it a drag to drive or come down from South Bay to Arguello Blvd in SF to pick up the passport

Re: [silk] passport renewals...

2006-10-31 Thread Yazad Jal
Wow. I'm amzed at the speed. It took the Bombay passport office 3 weeks last year to renew my passport. And that was the "tatkal seva" -- ordinary service was 2 months!!!-yazad On 10/31/06, Deepa Mohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/31/06, ashok _ <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: i renewed my passpor

Re: [silk] passport renewals...

2006-10-31 Thread Deepa Mohan
On 10/31/06, ashok _ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i renewed my passport (indian) last week at the local high commission,and it was done in a single day (filled in the forms in the morning, was asked to come back on the same day in the afternoon to collectit).  I wasnt getting special treatment, it a

Re: [silk] passport renewals...

2006-10-31 Thread Aditya Kapil
Nope ... took me 4 days in Hyderabad and I did have help.Aditya.On 10/31/06, ashok _ <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Is it the sameeverywhere else? -- ...But always remember that irritation is what allows oysters to create pearls. Thank goodness for oysters because ulcers make crappy necklaces [Sco

[silk] Africa’s silk road: China and India ’s new economic frontier

2006-10-31 Thread ashok _
A very interesting worldbank study on the impact and future of chinese and indian direct investments into Africa It does speak favourably in many ways of sectors of indian investment in africa as opposed to chinese investment.

[silk] passport renewals...

2006-10-31 Thread ashok _
i renewed my passport (indian) last week at the local high commission, and it was done in a single day (filled in the forms in the morning, was asked to come back on the same day in the afternoon to collect it). I wasnt getting special treatment, it appears to be the norm. I was pretty surprised

Re: [silk] Fwd: [Reader-list] 'Bring out white pape r on Parliament Attack'

2006-10-31 Thread sastry
On Tuesday 31 Oct 2006 4:37 pm, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: > > From: "arshad hamid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Interestingly a Google for peerzadaarshad leads to the website www.kashmirnewz.com Can anyone explain what I found (given below)? I suspect the address is a domain hosting company - nothing mo

Re: [silk] Finding coders on the subcontinent

2006-10-31 Thread Indrajit Gupta
In my case, in the UK, it's 35 lakhs INR pa. In Hungary, it's 17 lakhs INR pa at entry level. In India it's somewhere quite different.Dave Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course, I agree with the grand parent post's observations. > Affordable> programming talent with even a modicum of a work

[silk] Fwd: [Reader-list] 'Bring out white paper on Parliament Attack'

2006-10-31 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
I frankly didn't think Indian media, independent or otherwise, had the gall to speak up like this. Online version is at http://kashmirnewz.com/n00048.htmlBegin forwarded message:From: "arshad hamid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: 31 October, 2006 12:05:31 PM GMT+05:30To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Reader

Re: [silk] trust

2006-10-31 Thread ashok _
you make an interesting point. from what i see, a poweful threatening ruling dictatorship only makes matters worse -there was a criminal study done in nairobi in the early 90s...many criminals cited a feeling of powerlessness in the face of a burgeoning ruling authority (be it the govt, police, p

Re: [silk] Finding coders on the subcontinent

2006-10-31 Thread Ramjee Swaminathan
an excuse to inject some more noise into the list... A taxonomy of Interview Candidates: http://www.qsl.net/vu2sro/interview_species.html Best: ramjee. On 10/31/06, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Srini RamaKrishnan wrote: [ on 10:11 AM 10/31/2006 ] >It would be misleading if I did

Re: [silk] trust

2006-10-31 Thread ashok _
in nairobi, the problem is quite the opposite. The papers have a field day reporting grisly crimes mostly decaptitations, shoot outs, serial killers and such. this in turn makes the average city resident and the police extremely paranoid. in the city if a petty thief is caught by the public

Re: [silk] Finding coders on the subcontinent

2006-10-31 Thread Dave Long
Of course, I agree with the grand parent post's observations. Affordable programming talent with even a modicum of a work ethic is very scarce in India at the moment. All said and done, I get a lot more out of my two-and-a-half people in the UK than out of a very large number in Chennai. I'

Re: [silk] Finding coders on the subcontinent

2006-10-31 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Neha Viswanathan [31/10/06 08:53 +]: Internet Gov Forum (Slaps herself awake) Nope - Am sitting sleepy in my house. g'night then, i'll go to sleep in the middle of this panel (on second thoughts its actually a very good one, so i'll stay awake, jetlagged or not) :)

Re: [silk] trust

2006-10-31 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
On 10/31/06, Kragen Javier Sitaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In addition to the list of places suggested by previous posters (Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Japan, maybe Korea, large parts of Scandinavia, most of Singapore, Gibraltar, Ethiopia, Eritrea, and Uganda) none of which I Living in the UAE, which

Re: [silk] Finding coders on the subcontinent

2006-10-31 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Neha Viswanathan [31/10/06 06:53 +]: [2]http://globalvoicesonline.org are you at the IGF by the way? or any other silklister? I am on the IGOV-AP mailing list. Cheeni

Re: [silk] Finding coders on the subcontinent

2006-10-31 Thread Neha Viswanathan
Internet Gov Forum (Slaps herself awake)Nope - Am sitting sleepy in my house. are you at the IGF by the way? or any other silklister?-- Neha Viswanathan+44(0) 77695 65886London, UK http://withinandwithout.com | http://globalvoicesonline.org

Re: [silk] Finding coders on the subcontinent

2006-10-31 Thread Neha Viswanathan
are you at the IGF by the way? or any other silklister?IGF? -- Neha Viswanathan+44(0) 77695 65886London, UKhttp://withinandwithout.com | http://globalvoicesonline.org