Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Mahesh Murthy [24/03/10 11:34 +0530]: What's common to the lot that despise her is that they're all intellectuals (or literary critics) - and to me it seems they think she hasn't paid her dues in the Kanu Sanyal or Potti Sreeramulu sort of way to claim the intellectual high ground that she does s

Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread salil61
Shoba, I had deliberately mis-stated the quote :-) Salil Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Shoba Narayan Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:02:20 To: Subject: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there > > Erm. I'm a Gujju, not a TamBram. more seriously

Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread Mahesh Murthy
> >> Erm. I'm a Gujju, not a TamBram. more seriously, there are several >> problems with her writing. "Why don't I love thee? Let me count the >> ways..." >> >> The TamBrahm analogy was because I know so many men who hate Roy and they > always describe their dislike of her with this dispassiona

Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Shoba Narayan wrote, [on 3/24/2010 11:02 AM]: > The TamBrahm analogy was because I know so many men who hate Roy and > they always describe their dislike of her with this dispassionate, > rational, logical, arguing-equations-in-IIT tone that bugs the shit out > of me. As if it was self-evident th

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2010-03-23 Thread Udhay Shankar N
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Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread Radhika, Y.
i couldn't agree more, Shobha - extremism works for A. Roy. connecting the farthest dots is the proper provenance of a writer - showing us essences in apparently disparate situations.

Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Madonna and Aamir don't pretend to be full time members of the chatterati civil society activist set. My contempt for various of those isn't restricted to arundhati roy, or to various left leaning types. It cuts across the political spectrum. -- srs (blackberry) -Original Message- Fr

[silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread Shoba Narayan
Erm. I'm a Gujju, not a TamBram. more seriously, there are several problems with her writing. "Why don't I love thee? Let me count the ways..." Salil, you are clearly very well-read and I don't mean that in a snarky way-- my Dad's an English prof. so I have a great deal of respect for

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Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread J. Alfred Prufrock
Top-posting, just to say that I find Shiv's summary the best. On 24 March 2010 07:15, ss wrote: > On Tuesday 23 Mar 2010 9:45:17 pm Shoba Narayan wrote: > > Why does she evoke so much ire? > > A Roy has made more enemies than I could have hoped for. I for one am > greatly > pleased at the ire

Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread ss
On Tuesday 23 Mar 2010 9:45:17 pm Shoba Narayan wrote: >  Why does she evoke so much ire? A Roy has made more enemies than I could have hoped for. I for one am greatly pleased at the ire she evokes. This has nothing (IMHO) to do with male inferiority TamBram or non TamBram, which is is a "You

Re: [silk] Mockingbird, Brooklyn and other favourites

2010-03-23 Thread Radhika, Y.
this discussion is worth it for the new reading list i have acquired!

Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2010-03-23 17:31:36 +, sali...@googlemail.com wrote: > > OK, I recall she was given one-month's prison or fine; she decided to > go to prison, then paid fine after a day in jail. If that's wrong, I > stand corrected. Oh, no, that's definitely not what happened. http://www.thehindu.com/2002

Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread Salil Tripathi
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote: > At 2010-03-23 16:25:18 +, sali...@googlemail.com wrote: >> >> … and her ignoring the more serious criticism from Gail Omvedt. > > Thanks, I hadn't read Gail Omvedt's letter and response to some of > Arundhati Roy's writings on dams. I

Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2010-03-23 16:25:18 +, sali...@googlemail.com wrote: > > … and her ignoring the more serious criticism from Gail Omvedt. Thanks, I hadn't read Gail Omvedt's letter and response to some of Arundhati Roy's writings on dams. I found them quite interesting. > She went to jail for one night, pr

Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread Salil Tripathi
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Shoba Narayan wrote: > > > I could go point by point and refute everything the Indian Express article > said.  We all know of older Indian aunties with necks that have threads of > talcum powder.  I think GOST was more an autobiography than plagiarism. >  Ammu see

[silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread Shoba Narayan
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:55:21 + From: Salil Tripathi To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Many years ago, as I faced the keyboard, I remembered that distant

Re: [silk] Mockingbird, Brooklyn and other favourites

2010-03-23 Thread Lahar Appaiah
Your blog was far too long, JAP*da (*see, I'm honest!), so I spent barely a minute there, but I managed to spot two gems- Samit Basu's Simoqin etc trilogy, and the brilliant Mammaries of the Welfare State. Both were superb, enjoyable reads. Speaking of pulp, no Alistair MacLean? To each their own,

Re: [silk] Mockingbird, Brooklyn and other favourites

2010-03-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Nick carter to a far lesser extent. Too many authors running that franchise James Hadley Chase forever -- srs (blackberry) -Original Message- From: Deepa Mohan Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:31:22 To: Subject: Re: [silk] Mockingbird, Brooklyn and other favourites On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at

Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > > its betty smith's "a tree grows in brooklyn" if any of you can find the > book + has a spare copy. > Ah. Let me see if the St.Louis Public Library has a copy...thank you! Deepa.

Re: [silk] Mockingbird, Brooklyn and other favourites

2010-03-23 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > which is why you need to expand your horizons a bit beyond jt edson / zane > gray / l'amour :) Try the longarms for example if you can find them. Some > of them are really very good. Or the Elmore Leonards (including the classic > 3

Re: [silk] Mockingbird, Brooklyn etc.

2010-03-23 Thread J. Alfred Prufrock
On 23 March 2010 14:17, Jude Britto wrote: > > - Onions in the Stew, Betty Macdonald (not even available on Amazon) > > Ah, good to know there are other fans of this book; brings back > memories of when I first read it in a Readers Digest condensed books > collection. That's where I read it too.

Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread Salil Tripathi
Many years ago, as I faced the keyboard, I remembered that distant afternoon when a journalist near Ayemenem carefully destroyed Arundhati Roy's plagiarism OK, back in 2001, I read this piece in the southern Indian Express, which effectively demolishes Ms Roy's claims of originality. I found t

Re: [silk] Mockingbird, Brooklyn etc.

2010-03-23 Thread Jude Britto
> - Onions in the Stew, Betty Macdonald (not even available on Amazon) Ah, good to know there are other fans of this book; brings back memories of when I first read it in a Readers Digest condensed books collection. I still have a hardcover copy that I found in an old book store.

Re: [silk] Mockingbird, Brooklyn and other favourites

2010-03-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
J. Alfred Prufrock [23/03/10 13:22 +0530]: "Sir Richard Burton's "The Arabian Nights". Complete and unexpurgated." Where can I get it?! Jaico publishes it, pick it up at any landmark or odyssey. "Westerns by Louis L'Amour" The only Western writer I really liked, even though he does recycle es

Re: [silk] Mockingbird, Brooklyn and other favourites

2010-03-23 Thread J. Alfred Prufrock
Suresh - lots of Kipling. > I missed that in the post. Kipling is a favourite, and I find *Stalky & Co.*one of the best boys' books ever. "Sir Richard Burton's "The Arabian Nights". Complete and unexpurgated." Where can I get it?! "Westerns by Louis L'Amour" The only Western writer I really lik

Re: [silk] Mockingbird, Brooklyn and other favourites

2010-03-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
For quite a few of them, certainly. Devreux's "Venus in India" was accompanied by John Cleland's "Fanny Hill" for instance. Wodehouse on Wodehouse certainly. Ditto Spike Milligan, Zen and the Art .., lots of Kipling. Terry Pratchetts of course. Then, Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey Maturin novels .

Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread J. Alfred Prufrock
Top-posting! Give her the Goblin treatment ("batter and beat, yammer and bleat", if I remember aright) As far as La Ray is concerned, can we all please adopt the Rhett Butler attitude? And move on?