Fred's address as per the original letter he sent.
Fred
At 07:28 PM 10/11/1999 -0600, you wrote:
FredWhat is your web addressBill
Fred wrote:
> This "meter discussion" is getting a little wild! I waited 24 hours,
> to cool down, so here is my "calm" reply!
>
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On Tuesday, October 12, 1999 9:31 AM, Sandra Jaros wrote:
>
>Date: 12-Oct-1999 10:31:56 -0400
>From: Sandra Jaros
>To: m...@jazz {silver-l...@eskimo.com}
>Subject: Re: CS>Allergies
>
>How long does a this stuff last? If you buy or make large quantities what
>is the shelf life?
>
>At 09:39 AM 10/1
Hi Ivan,
Beautiful graph. What program did you use to generate it, and how did
you output it to the .gif file format?
It looks to me that the ppm (ISE) vs time curve could be much better
fit. It seems to lag behind the conductivity and will probably cross
curves above about 15uS. In any case,
In view of the ongoing debate about the suitability of conductivity
meters (and TDS meters) in measuring the concentration of silver, I
offer this graph of a run I made recently. It is admittedly a bit rough
and ready (interruptions, running out of buffer solution etc.) but the
trends are clear,...
My son got sick yesterday and I have been doing the following to no effect:
cs 3 times a day (about 2 tBsp. each time) used the Beck blood electrifier
for about 45 mins(all he could take) twice so far. He seems worse this
morning than yesterday! He has sore throat, fever, stuffed nose etc. I was
wo
Cool Fred!
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From: Fred
> A compound versus an ion of silver is very large and can not pass
> thru cell membranes (where viruses multiply) as easily, there is no
> positive charge as a compound is neutral, and it is not a colloid but
> a solution of a soluable salt of silver. Th
Thanks, Ivan for this effort and your willingness to share it with us.
Looking forward to the rest of the story.
Spiroflex
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From: Ivan Anderson
To: Silver-List
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 5:41 AM
Subject: CS>Graph comparison: ppm & conductivity.
> In view of the
Nellie,
I use either CSPro from Bruce Marx, a wonderful man, or wateroz. Bruce
sells his for $20.00 for 16 ounces of 10-12ppm and wateroz sells theirs for
$65.00 a gallon of 100pm (tested at approx 60), although you can buy four
gallons at $124.00.
Cs Pros number is 1-888-710-2773
wateroz is
How long does a this stuff last? If you buy or make large quantities what
is the shelf life?
At 09:39 AM 10/12/99 EDT, you wrote:
>Nellie,
> I use either CSPro from Bruce Marx, a wonderful man, or wateroz. Bruce
>sells his for $20.00 for 16 ounces of 10-12ppm and wateroz sells theirs for
>$65
Ivan Anderson wrote:
> PPM reading was supplied by a silver Ion Selective Electrode.
> Water was Purified Water BP and read 1uS before electrolysis.
Prior to purchasing our spectrophotometer and silver kit, I check into using a
silver ion selective electrode for measuring ppm. I was told that i
Hi Ron,
I was looking for the stronger magnets in order to make magnetized water the
way Lew suggested to me -- by putting one bottle on a north magnet and one
on a south magnet and letting them sit overnight. But now I am curious about
the vortex method and am thinking I might get the structuring
I used car polish, rubbing compound and it did the trick. If it is really
stubborn try SOS pad and rubbing compound.
Janine
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Hi James,
What was the concentration of the saline solution?
James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com
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From: James Allison [SMTP:apothec...@home.com]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 7:39 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:CS>My opinions on the saline issu
Knowing the concentration of the salt solution, and the amount added to the
CS starting water, one can calculate the amount of Ag which is bound to the
available Cl.
James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com
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From: jein...@cswnet.com [SMTP:jein...@cswnet.com]
Sent: Mond
Hi Mike,
I missed the graph. Can you direct me to a copy?
Thank you,
James Osbourne Holmes
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From: M. G. Devour [SMTP:mdev...@mail.id.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 3:41 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CS>Graph compariso
Ok, I see our techie-experimenters mentioning measuring the conductivity
of their batches, which leads me to a question and a concern. Do you
leave the conductivity probe in the water while electricity is flowing or
do you turn your generators off before testing the cond.? I would think
leaving t
The concentration of the saline solution that we have always used is 1 level
teaspoon of salt to 8oz of water.
Yours in health,
James Allison
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From: James Osbourne, Holmes
To:
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: CS>My opinions on the saline issue...
Hi Folks!
Katerina--
I gathered from the article that water can be structured
different ways and magnetizing is just one way.
I have just the gizmo I believe they are using in the kit.
It is a plastic tube with the inside threaded at both ends
so you can screw in a bottle at each end. It has a 3
If I may interject
Using the Hach silver chemistry, Bruce found that the digestion process,
which involves all sorts of nasty stuff, produced erratic results with CS.
This was verified by a Hach tech rep. present at Bruce's lab.
They decided that the process works reliably without the dige
Thanks.
James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com
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From: James Allison [SMTP:apothec...@home.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 10:26 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CS>My opinions on the saline issue...
The concentration of the saline solution th
What kind of salt? Sea saltreagent grade?
James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com
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From: James Allison [SMTP:apothec...@home.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 10:26 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CS>My opinions on the saline issue...
Th
>
>FredWhat is your web addressBill
>
Bill, you can find me at: http://www.health2us.com
I have much more then colloidal silver hints there,
including how I have done faith healing (and you
probably can also), a great home treatment for
most back problems I developed while designing
a TENS
I will have to get with Bruce on this. He is the one that put me onto Hach in
the first place and at the time was using digestion. The method he used
required sulfuric acid, and produces silver sulfate which is almost insoluable,
so I went back to Hack and they gave me a procedure that uses Nitric
James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:
> If I may interject
>
> Using the Hach silver chemistry, Bruce found that the digestion process,
> which involves all sorts of nasty stuff, produced erratic results with CS.
> This was verified by a Hach tech rep. present at Bruce's lab.
>
> They decided that th
Anyone know how to get colloidal silver stain off from a counter top? I
recall posts on this a few months ago--would the archives go back that far? I
think dynamite was recommended, but I was looking for something a little less
intrusive or messy. :)
Susan L
In a message dated 10/05/1999 3:21:
>My son got sick yesterday and I have been doing the following to no effect:
>cs 3 times a day (about 2 tBsp. each time) used the Beck blood electrifier
>for about 45 mins(all he could take) twice so far. He seems worse this
>morning than yesterday! He has sore throat, fever, stuffed nose etc. I
Hello All,
In times of old I heard that various people of importance took small
amounts
of poison to develope a tolerance for a (in case) someone wants to do
them in.
Maybe these little silver salts or byproducts we are worried about is of
not so great
a concern maybe benificial in some instanc
On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 23:04:54 -0400, b...@lcia.com (RON BRENNEN) wrote:
>Strong magnets should not be used on the vortex system with the the
>two bottles. The small round magnets sold by Radio Shack are the ones
>to be used.
>Regards,
>Ron
Why not?
This is like eating something that fell on the fl
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999 10:23:23 -, "Janine" wrote:
> Any ideas? Suggestions? Please help. I don't have
>any faith in the medical profession and prefer not to use antibiotics if
>possible. Thanks. Oh, I forgot, he is 6 yrs. old.
>
>Janine
>From another list, this suggestion:
From: molecularr...@
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:26:39 -0700, David Bolin wrote:
>Last night I tried adhesing two soda bottle caps together
>and drilling a 3/8" hole. The epoxy did not stick to the
>particular plastic but I learned that I can make the "vortex"
>work with just a hole in the cap on a bottle of water.
>So i
To all interested list members.
We documented the deleterious effects of NaCl
(sodium choloride) and Sea Salt, over three years agovia electon
microscopy. Although we did not conduct any toxicity evaluations,
either of these compounds results in an UNACCEPTABLE increase
Wateroz silver is ionic vs Cspro is colloidal. What's the difference in
healing power for Lyme Disease? All opinions welcome. Thanks.
Marie
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I have the &#...@%%%^& flu ! (It's not die off as I have been slacking on my
treatment.)
Sooo, I wonder how much CS I should/can take. I have 30ppm Natural Sources.
I want to stop the post nasal drip, sore throat, sneezing etc.
Advice please, please, please. :o(
Jo
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Using 5 ppm product we have found that 2 to 4 oz will stop the flu dead in
about an hour when it first appears. Once you have it bad, it may take 2 to 4
ounces every hour for 6 to 8 hours before you knock it out.
Marshall
Mercer wrote:
> I have the &#...@%%%^& flu ! (It's not die off as I have
Please relay the results of your conversation with Bruce. I try to call him
sparingly.
James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com
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From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 12:01 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:R
When I get a chance I will calculate the concentration re: available Cl to form
AgCl.
James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com
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From: James Allison [SMTP:apothec...@home.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 10:26 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CS
Marie,
I have used CsPro and found it to be wonderful, I currently use the wateroz
and am in the middle of a herx again. I started taking the wateroz at the
same quantity that I was taking the CSPro at which was a big mistake since
the ppm difference. I am going to slack off on the wateroz u
Marshall that is what I needed to know. I'm off to the CS bottle.
Jo, who is soon to be on the mend. :o)
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From: Marshall Dudley
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: Cs and flu symptoms
>Using 5 ppm product we have found tha
Hello,
I am new to this list, my name is Victoria.
Does anyone know whether, or not CS is
beneficial, in any way for ms? I was
diagnosed with ms in '92, and am not sure
about adding a metal into my system.
Thank you.
Victoria
ppeon...@aol.com
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Your disclaimer is futile. I am accepting your opinion as medical advice.
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From: donna2...@aol.com [SMTP:donna2...@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 5:36 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CS>Allergies
Thank you James! I actually laughed out loud, and am in fact, still
giggling. It was my first laugh on this mostly stressful day, and it's
exactly what I needed :)
Yours in health,
James Allison
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From: James Osbourne, Holmes
To:
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 5:3
Can you tell me more about this herx thing? What's it like? how long does it
last?
can you do anything about it? how easy is it to get? I haven't got my gen yet,
just doing alot of research before I get started and this herx thing makes me
nervous. thanks, joe...
donna2...@aol.com wrote:
> Marie
Hi Ya'All;
One final stir of the pot before I checkout for 4 to 6 weeks.
I have talked about standards but it fell on deaf ears, BUT if you will
write down your own receipe for making CS and follow it then you have
established your own standrad. What ever process your are using a record
of what y
Hi Marie
Per Peter Lindeman's article: *A Closer Look*:
snip...
"The word *Ionic* refers to a condition where a particle has an
electric charge. In the case of *electro-colloidal* silver, this electric
charge is ALWAYS posi-
tive. Silver will not form a negatively charged ion. So,
the tr
Please explain herx, I am new at CS, having used only commercial CS.
I feel awful today, and hope it not sinus infection or flu and have
started back on CS to fight it off, but keep seeing post about herx,
I have worked with essential oils for a few years and understand healing
crisis, is this in
Charles King wrote:
>
> On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 23:04:54 -0400, b...@lcia.com (RON BRENNEN) wrote:
>
> >Strong magnets should not be used on the vortex system with the the
> >two bottles. The small round magnets sold by Radio Shack are the ones
> >to be used.
> >Regards,
> >Ron
>
> Why not?
> This i
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