Re: CSSaliva Experiment Results

2001-05-22 Thread Itssuzy2
Frank, thank you for posting this. Very interesting. suzy

CSNASA and silver/copper ions

2001-05-22 Thread jrowland
From the NASA commercial spin-off list: ...POOL PURIFICATION - Space technology designed to sterilize water on long-duration spacecraft applied to swimming pool purification led to a system that uses two silver-copper alloy electrodes that generate silver and copper ions when

RE: CSSaliva Experiment Results

2001-05-22 Thread Ivan Anderson
Stuart, Frank, Bob, I do not think that the idea that there can be a protective effect by the binding of proteins to silver ions is valid. There may be some sublingual absorption of silver, given that the silver binds to transport proteins, but the amount of saliva is small, and the concentration

CS and Pacemaker (Brooks Bradley?)

2001-05-22 Thread Stephen Summers
Dear Brooks and List members I have a number of important questions which I hope you can help me with. 1. I have read and heard that CS should not be taken by anyone with a pacemaker or defibrillator. The thinking being that CS would plate with stainless steel or other metal in the pacemaker.

CSionic vs particulate CS

2001-05-22 Thread gaia research
Dear Solar You wrote: I don't follow you here, Stuart. I think it is a valid experiment. As soon as one swallows the saliva/cs mixture, it IS going to be exposed to HCl. Immediately after spitting it into beaker B, I will add a few drops of saturated saline solution to both beakers. I

Re: CSNASA and silver/copper ions

2001-05-22 Thread Gaston
I have taken a quick look at the address http://www.thespaceplace.com/nasa/spinoffs.html; Interesting this Silver-Copper alloy bit. Anyone has more info. on this alloy pls ? Seems interesting and why can't we use it to produce our CS ? Would it be detrimental to our health pls ? Gaston

RE: CSNASA and silver/copper ions

2001-05-22 Thread Ivan Anderson
Copper ions are toxic above a certain level in the cells, causing Wilson's and Menkes' diseases, and causing the formation of hydroxyl radicals, the most damaging of free radicals. Ivan. -Original Message- From: Gaston [mailto:obouc...@colba.net] Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2001 21:32 To:

CSScientific Debate One Upsmanship

2001-05-22 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 5/22/01 3:42:28 AM EST, gaia.resea...@pixie.co.za writes: In the interests of advancing our understanding of colloidal silver, let us please stop being petty and over-sensitive, but please let us also be open to criticism and free to express ourselves. My earlier allegedly

Re: CSNASA and silver/copper ions

2001-05-22 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 5/22/01 3:44:24 AM EST, obouc...@colba.net writes: Subj: Re: CSNASA and silver/copper ions Date: 5/22/01 3:44:24 AM EST From: obouc...@colba.net (Gaston) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com I have taken a quick look at the address

Re: CS and Pacemaker (Brooks Bradley?)

2001-05-22 Thread d.linen
Stephen Summers wrote: 3. Parkinson's Disease - A friend's father has this. Would the electrically charged silver ions in CS have any effect on this condition? And what other protocols could be followed? Are you sure that CS has electrically charged silver ions? -- The silver-list is a

RE: CS and Pacemaker (Brooks Bradley?)

2001-05-22 Thread Ivan Anderson
Steve, 1. I do not believe CS will cause a problem with pacemakers. 2. ADD and ADHD may be controlled by Vitamin and mineral supplementation: http://www.royalrife.com/adhd.html 3. Both Parkinson's and Chron's may benefit from vitamin D supplementation:

RE: CSNASA and silver/copper ions

2001-05-22 Thread Ivan Anderson
I'm not sure Roger, I believe the problem is keeping the ions in solution during the trip from the treatment plant to the tap...chlorine has good residual properties. But I don't think there is a problem with copper deficiency, especially if one's plumbing has copper pipes. Ivan.

RE: CS and Pacemaker (Brooks Bradley?)

2001-05-22 Thread Ivan Anderson
Well, ions do have an electric charge, and most CS contains high percentages of silver ions. So... Ivan -Original Message- From: d.linen [mailto:li...@flash.net] Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2001 00:43 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS and Pacemaker (Brooks Bradley?)

Re: CS and Pacemaker (Brooks Bradley?)

2001-05-22 Thread Stephen Summers
Reply from SS: Of course it has. In fact, there are literally trillions of silver ions in properly made CS, each one carrying a tiny positive charge (we are talking nano amps here). Silver is an excellent conductor of electricity and this is the basis of the electromagnetic process - as well as

Re: CS and Pacemaker (Brooks Bradley?)

2001-05-22 Thread Marshall Dudley
.. Stephen Summers wrote: Dear Brooks and List members I have a number of important questions which I hope you can help me with. 1. I have read and heard that CS should not be taken by anyone with a pacemaker or defibrillator. The thinking being that CS would plate with stainless steel or

Re: CSNASA and silver/copper ions

2001-05-22 Thread Ted Windsor
Several years ago a company tried to introduce this type of setup to cities for their water supplies, there were no takers, the company faded into the sunset. Blessings Ted jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: From the NASA commercial spin-off list: ...POOL PURIFICATION - Space technology designed to

Re: CSNASA and silver/copper ions

2001-05-22 Thread Marshall Dudley
NASA takes credit? I gave my daughter a wall wart and sterling silver spoon to use to make colloidal copper silver for their pool just the other day. It really isn't a new idea. Marshall Gaston wrote: I have taken a quick look at the address

CSOn Generating Colloidal Copper and Silver

2001-05-22 Thread ROGALTMAN
Gaston: I really don't see the need to first make a silver copper alloy to generate copper and silver ions electrolytically. Why not use a circular silver sheet placed in a round plastic cap (a silver wire can enter from the backside of the plastic cap to complete the half-call circuit). On the

CSScientific Debate One Upsmanship

2001-05-22 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 5/22/01 3:42:28 AM EST, gaia.resea...@pixie.co.za writes: In the interests of advancing our understanding of colloidal silver, let us please stop being petty and over-sensitive, but please let us also be open to criticism and free to express ourselves. My earlier allegedly

Re: CSNASA and silver/copper ions

2001-05-22 Thread Marshall Dudley
rogalt...@aol.com wrote: IIvan: Perhaps that's why copper and silver ion combinations are used for POOL water at 300 PPB and 40 PPB respectively. However, I do remember reading that some European countries were considering using this combination for drinking water as well. Have there been any

Re: CSScientific Debate One Upsmanship

2001-05-22 Thread Frank Key
It has been written: If Frank does take up the challenge, would he please be so kind to inform the list. If he does not do so, I will allow his declining to do so to speak for itself. For the record, I will follow the advice of the Moderator who wrote I must ask you to ignore each other.

Re: CSionic vs particulate CS

2001-05-22 Thread A.V.R.A
This suggested experiment is not scientific, and would be largely a waste of time. Of course not ALL the ionic silver is going to be protected by the proteins in the saliva. Of course one is going to get silver chloride. I certainly hope not all of one's scientific work is done in this manner.

Re: CSSaliva Experiment Results

2001-05-22 Thread A.V.R.A
Ivan, ( You probably have a much larger audience than you realize ) You bring up a great point about the amount of colloidal silver ingested through protein binding. However, I think even these small amounts ingested via this method can prove significant over long term use, and therefore

Re: CSNASA and silver/copper ions

2001-05-22 Thread Marshall Dudley
rogalt...@aol.com wrote: Gaston: I really don't see the need to first make a silver copper alloy to generate copper and silver ions electrolytically. Why not use a circular silver sheet placed in a round plastic cap. On the side of the silver sheet facing the DW place a copper disc with a

CS water purification

2001-05-22 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Listers, Check these out. http://www.algaebar.com/ http://members.tripod.com/hightechwater/ ___ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver.

CSScientific Debate One Upsmanship

2001-05-22 Thread gaia research
Frank wrote: For the record, I will follow the advice of the Moderator who wrote I must ask you to ignore each other. frank key A wise man once observed it is best not to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man. ST: It seems Frank must have a dig till the end. I trust he speaks of

CSFw: CSionic vs particulate CS

2001-05-22 Thread gaia research
Dear A.V.R.A. You wrote: This suggested experiment is not scientific Of course not ALL the ionic silver is going to be protected by the proteins in the saliva. Of course one is going to get silver chloride. ST: Thanks for the sanity. I though t for a while that I had landed in Wonderland.

Re: CSScientific Debate One Upsmanship

2001-05-22 Thread Frank Key
Roger, It is safe to say that you have concluded from your experiment that silver does not dissolve in water? If that is the case, what could one deduce from the old stories about the silver dollar in the water barrel? Could one surmise that contact with the metallic silver is what caused the

CSMetalloprotiens

2001-05-22 Thread Robert L. Berger
Hi Ya'all, Ole Bob' was wondering if combinding CS with egg white would be a worthwhile method of making a metalloprotien?? I am an engineer and only understand simple things. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or

RE: CSNASA and silver/copper ions

2001-05-22 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Use caution with Cu intake. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Gaston [mailto:obouc...@colba.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 3:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNASA and silver/copper ions I have taken a quick look at the address

RE: CSSaliva Experiment Results

2001-05-22 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Is there a method for selectively binding silver ions or complexes in serum? If, so quantitative methods may be employed to measure the amount of bound silver v. the free silver. Identifying the complexes/molecules containing silver---based on the reaction products---may give some insight into

Re: CSRE: Snake Oil Reference. Contains mental virons. Delete now.

2001-05-22 Thread Connie Hendrix
Snake oil is not really oil at all. Snack oil is water that is taken from the snake river somewhere in Pennsylvania or New Jersey.It's kind of like those special springs that are supposed to heal... - Original Message - From: Tel Tofflemire To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent:

Re: CS and Pacemaker (Brooks Bradley?)

2001-05-22 Thread Robert L. Berger
Right on Ken!! That's why we use rapid continual stirring on making GOOD cs. Ole Bob Ode Coyote wrote: That needle won't grow if the liquid medium is always in motion. Presumably, the blood is in motion. Ken -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver.

Re: CS and Pacemaker (Brooks Bradley?)

2001-05-22 Thread Ode Coyote
That needle won't grow if the liquid medium is always in motion. Presumably, the blood is in motion. Ken At 10:28 AM 5/22/01 -0400, you wrote: .. Stephen Summers wrote: Dear Brooks and List members I have a number of important questions which I hope you can help me with. 1. I have read and

Re: CS and Pacemaker (Brooks Bradley?)

2001-05-22 Thread Duncan Crow
4. Chrone's Disease - If I'm not mistaken, this is a form of colitus which can be successfully treated with CS. Does anyone have any experience with CS and Chrone's Disease? Any and all feedback will be much appreciated! Hi Steve; From Dr. Kurt Donsbach - Rectal ozone would be the cure for

CSMarvelous testimonial

2001-05-22 Thread Bill Fernald
At the risk of interrupting the bickering, I thought I would post this marvelous testimonial. ... i just wanted you people at utopia silver to know that i started using colloidal silver about two month ago for a sinus infection and it wiped it

RE: CSScientific Debate One Upsmanship

2001-05-22 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
If I may comment; I never heard about the silver in the water barrel, but I have never researched the issue. I have heard about the dollar in the milk jug. What is the pH of milk? I suspect it is chemically more active than many waters. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From:

RE: CSScientific Debate One Upsmanship

2001-05-22 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
I think it's fun to watch, and I do learn from both. One aspect could use improvement; the insults have lately been a bit dull and lacking in originality. I recommend tutoring from CK. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: gaia research [mailto:gaia.resea...@pixie.co.za] Sent:

RE: CS and Pacemaker (Brooks Bradley?)

2001-05-22 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Great X-files episode. Alien CS. Scenes of silver needles coming out of skin, etc. It happens when you walk past a microwave oven. I'll send a note to Chris. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coy...@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 4:24 PM To:

RE: CSSaliva Experiment Results

2001-05-22 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Correction: Is there a method for selectively binding silver ions compounds or complexes in serum? If, so quantitative methods may be employed to measure the amount of bound silver v. the free silver. Identifying the complexes/molecules containing silver---based on the reaction products---may

RE: CSRE: Snake Oil Reference. Contains mental virons. Delete now.

2001-05-22 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
I thought canola was “Snack [sic]oil”. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Connie Hendrix [mailto:cmhend...@acsworld.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 2:19 PM To: Tel Tofflemire; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: Snake Oil Reference. Contains mental virons. Delete now.

RE: CSMetalloprotiens

2001-05-22 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Perhaps it would bind too tightly: same effect as seen in large-particle CS stabilized with other proteins...? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Robert L. Berger [mailto:bober...@swbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 12:40 PM To: Silver-list Subject: CSMetalloprotiens Hi

CSOT Cancer detection

2001-05-22 Thread RAINISAGE
Does anyone know if this is true? ~Hanan http://www.karlloren.com/biopsy/ Stunning proof of this claim is readily available. All trophoblast cells produce a unique hormone called the chorionic gonadotrophic (CGH) which is easily detected in urine. Thus if a person is either pregnant or has

Re: CSOT Cancer detection

2001-05-22 Thread Marshall Dudley
I don't know if it is true for 92% of the cancers, but it is for most. CGH is why B17 (laetrile) works, since it causes B-17 to break down into cyanide.. Marshall rainis...@aol.com wrote: Does anyone know if this is true? ~Hanan http://www.karlloren.com/biopsy/ Stunning proof of this

Re: CSNASA and silver/copper ions

2001-05-22 Thread Gaston
Thank you all Ladies and Gentlemen to have asnwered the questions that I have raised about the Silver-Copper alloy. I get the point and it is much appreciated. Gaston = - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To:

RE: CSHow Do Silver Coins Keep Water Fresh? Will We Ever Know? You Can Help

2001-05-22 Thread Ivan Anderson
Roger, Did you use distilled water or tap water? Ivan. -Original Message- From: rogalt...@aol.com [mailto:rogalt...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2001 13:12 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSHow Do Silver Coins Keep Water Fresh? Will We Ever Know? You Can Help In a