Re: CSWater filter?

2004-02-17 Thread Ode Coyote
Not quite as mixed up as somewhat ignorant. I have only observations to go by as any info I've found on the subject starts at chlorine injection and ends with 'Pay me for chemicals and equipment while you deal with chemicals in your water that are worse than the bacteria' Thanks Dude! The

Re: CSCS seeding

2004-02-17 Thread Ode Coyote
I believe that 'sparklies' consist of stuff [oxides and plate out] that falls off the electrodes and belong to another class of stuff other than 'particles'. They do tend to dissipate and/or settle out in a day or so. Not caused by 'seeding' Ode At 11:09 AM 2/16/2004 -0500, you wrote: Vince

CS[List Owner] Disruptive behavior

2004-02-17 Thread M. G. Devour
Dear Silver List members, I thought I was going to be able to do some useful work here this morning, but it appears that I will have to spend time dealing with a list discipline problem instead. Garnet reported to me in private e-mail yesterday that she was receiving harassing e-mails from

Re: CSNewbie questions

2004-02-17 Thread Ode Coyote
You're not likely to get a quality product from the HFS. Most of it is MSP and some is chemical precipitate vs electrically isolated silver. [ A rare find in an HFS but still not always as labeled and still way over priced] Why MSP [mild silver protein] and chemical precipitate? Because it's

Re: CSNewbie questions

2004-02-17 Thread Ode Coyote
## It's easier than that with a 30 day absolute satisfaction gaurantee or your money back. All the better generator producers take the risk for you. If they don't make that offer, it's probably junk. Ode Don't spend your money purchasing CS. Even if you do not like the generator you buy or

Re: CSemails from Jack Dayton ( Hackers )

2004-02-17 Thread Garnet
Very few could actually duplicate the headers Wayne. It can be done yes, but the likelihood is very low that anyone with this level of knowledge would be wasting it imitating someone like Jack. I do believe they would go after bigger fish. BTW my husband is a software architect and network

Re: CSEmailing: ANS00971

2004-02-17 Thread Marshall Dudley
The FDA really gives the CS producers a catch 22. I wanted to include some documentation that indicated that if one is chronically ill then they should start off with small amounts of CS. This would be a warning to prevent one from becoming very sick from a healing crisis. But I can't do that

Re: CSemails from Jack Dayton ( Hackers )

2004-02-17 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Very few could actually duplicate the headers Wayne. It can be done yes, but the likelihood is very low that anyone with this level of knowledge would be wasting it imitating someone like Jack. I know that. But how many read and understand the headers, I have been studying the headers

CSThe Last Great Race

2004-02-17 Thread Matthew McCann PE
Hello, Members of the List. In a couple weeks or so, the Iditarod race begins again in Alaska. Something bothers me, though, about the event which this, the Last Great Race, commemorates. Maybe a List member can resolve it. The Iditarod commemorates the delivery of diphtheria antitoxin to Nome

Re: CSEmailing: ANS00971

2004-02-17 Thread Ode Coyote
Check out www.silverpuppy.com/fda.html to see how slippery the language is. Even in the small excerpt are found several examples... Colloidal silver is a suspension of silver particles in a colloidal (gelatinous) base. [This would be MSP] Colloidal silver ingredients and silver salts include

CSemails from Jack Dayton ( Hackers )

2004-02-17 Thread Dan Nave
If you know something Wayne, spit it out. Otherwise you are just blowing smoke... Dan CSemails from Jack Dayton ( Hackers ) From: Wayne Fugitt wrote: Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:43:54 Evening David, Garnet, and the list, At 09:12 PM 2/16/04 -0600, you wrote: I have received rude

Re: CSemails from Jack Dayton ( Hackers )

2004-02-17 Thread Garnet
On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 08:58, Wayne Fugitt wrote: Very few could actually duplicate the headers Wayne. It can be done yes, but the likelihood is very low that anyone with this level of knowledge would be wasting it imitating someone like Jack. I know that. But how many read and

Re: CSThe Last Great Race

2004-02-17 Thread Garnet
If I had contracted Diptheria I would use both the anti-toxin and CS. Maybe they were using CS or silver in some form and it was not enough. Once an organism has reached great numbers in the body CS is not as effective as it is when it used preventatively. I bought my SG6 when I had the Fujian

Re: CSEmailing: ANS00971

2004-02-17 Thread Delmont P Neroni
Marshall Is there any reason why you could not say CS is a food supplement that enhances the body's natural immune system. That does not claim to cure any specific ailment, and a lot of food supplements say that. Then you could add that you should start with smaller doses and build up

Re: CSAdelle Davis Books

2004-02-17 Thread Brickeyk
One drop per day in affected eye. She hated the treatment and would not come when she saw me wih the eyedropper bottle. She would even snap at me as I gave her a treatment, not vicious but the kind to tell you to back off. Brickey Thanks for sharing some fine remedies and your experiences with

Re: CSemails from Jack Dayton ( Hackers )

2004-02-17 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 2/16/04 11:42:15 PM EST, wfug...@direcway.com writes: So, as many say, Give the Devil his dues, which in this case may not be Jack. Wouldn't then Jack speak up in his own defense? MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Re: CSNewbie questions

2004-02-17 Thread The Hatzfeld's
What I bought was Sovereign Silver - was 2 fl. oz. and cost $14.99. Found this product from the site www.silvermedicine.org - they said it was the best on the market, however it's too expensive to buy a large quantity of it. Until we've had a chance to use and experience results from CS it

Re: CSemails from Jack Dayton ( Hackers )

2004-02-17 Thread Wayne Fugitt
So, as many say, Give the Devil his dues, which in this case may not be Jack. Wouldn't then Jack speak up in his own defense? MA I was only trying to give everyone a hypothetical situation which can exist and does happen. A friend is doing some of this now and using me

RE: CSEmailing: ANS00971

2004-02-17 Thread Thora Rasmussen
The language here is very tricky. They used the words OTC drug products. Colloidal Silver as we speak about it here on this list is not a drug. So, in reality, they are not referring to CS at all in that sentence. It is disgusting that they use Legalese to confuse the general public. It would

Re: CSNewbie questions

2004-02-17 Thread bob smith
IMHO you won't learn much from 2 oz. Bob S. - Original Message - From: The Hatzfeld's ha...@airmail.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:00 AM Subject: Re: CSNewbie questions What I bought was Sovereign Silver - was 2 fl. oz. and cost $14.99. Found

RE: CSEmailing: ANS00971

2004-02-17 Thread Richard Harris
Hi Thora, In US, as long as you label CS as being a Mineral Supplement without stating that it can be used FOR any particular ailment, you can give directions as to how to safely use it, as: Hold and swish one mouthful in mouth for 2 or 3 minutes then swallow; repeat 2 or 3 times a day. Keep away

CScs water tested

2004-02-17 Thread Lynda Khula
someone on this list posted he tested the cs water would you please email me so I can send some to you to be tested, I made it with 3 batteries and then bought a different set up and the cs is not the same only want to make sure it is ok, thanks Lynda

RE: CSEmailing: ANS00971

2004-02-17 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Evening Richard, You make some good points. In US, as long as you label CS as being a Mineral Supplement without stating that it can be used FOR any particular ailment I had a friend years ago who was a writer, a playwright, a land broker, and a contractor. At one time, he owned the

Re: CSThe Last Great Race

2004-02-17 Thread M. G. Devour
Bob Smith wrote: Some time back there was an account posted of a group of British mountain climbers being caught in a storm while climbing Mt. Everest, One of them was critically ill with a high fever. One of the group took a flashlight battery and a silver medallion he was wearing and

RE: CSEmailing: ANS00971

2004-02-17 Thread Richard Harris
Thanks Wayne for another of your delightful true stories from your Saga! This certainly should be included in one of Your Books. Sincerely, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:wfug...@direcway.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 2:38 PM To:

CSsinus congestion

2004-02-17 Thread Marcela Weiland
Hi, I am new to this group and I would like to get a little more information on CS. I have heard so many contradicting opinions and some people say that it is really bad for your body. My son has had sinus congestion for weeks now and I am starting to think it is an infection. Would this be an

CSCS caveats on labeling

2004-02-17 Thread Trem
Hi Richard, The proviso that CS not be stored in refrigerators, near magnets and in a dark place are urban legends. No truth. Properly made CS is basically bulletproof. I have some over 3 years old, stored in clear plastic that is as high as 45 PPM and is still the same as the day it was

RE: CSThe Last Great Race

2004-02-17 Thread Richard Harris
Hi Matthew and Garnet, We need to remember that CS is a Gift from God, but ideally is used in conjunction with other things to increase our treatment success; for example, we just recently learned that CS will penetrate much more effectively accompanied by a double amount of Gatorade; Many of us

Re: CSsinus congestion

2004-02-17 Thread Marshall Dudley
Marcela Weiland wrote: Hi, I am new to this group and I would like to get a little more information on CS. I have heard so many contradicting opinions and some people say that it is really bad for your body. I don't think you will find this statement by anyone who has researched it. My

Re: CSCS caveats on labeling

2004-02-17 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Thanks a million Trem, You eliminated lots of worries and headaches for me with that short message. The proviso that CS not be stored in refrigerators, near magnets and in a dark place are urban legends. Not having the knowledge or expertice to prove this, I have suspected such for some

Re: CSsinus congestion

2004-02-17 Thread Marcela Weiland
Thank you so much for answering. When using the neubilizer, how much do you put in the little cup and for how long? And if using it as a nasal irrigator do I mix it with water and for how long? I had always heard about the good flora in the stomach, some people drink Kefir to kedp the good

Re: CSsinus congestion

2004-02-17 Thread bob smith
I have posted this before but probably before your membership. I have a daughter who has always been bothered with severe sinus infections. About 5/6 years ago at the time that several people,in England had a respiratory infection that was fatal in a few hours unless treated. A lady in

RE: CSCS caveats on labeling

2004-02-17 Thread Richard Harris
Many thanks Trem, I had just read these supposed facts regarding storage this afternoon from a beautiful Site and knew that I had read that they were ignorant legends, but decided to quote the expensive Site info--I hope the person to whom I wrote this saw your answer to me. Trem, I consider You

Re: CSWide anode DC

2004-02-17 Thread Jan Stoeten
Hi Matthew, Pardon my ignorance, but I do not quite understand what you mean by wrapping it in a flat spiral that lays on the bottom of the reaction vessel. To me it sounds like wrapping the silver spiral so that it is not exposed to DW, totally defeating the original purpose. Would you be so kind

RE: CSsinus congestion

2004-02-17 Thread Thora Rasmussen
This is new to me. When someone recommends yogurt to add the flora, where in the body does it work? Or is this just bunk? Very interesting, and I'd love to learn more. Thora -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 1:38 PM

Re: CSThe Last Great Race

2004-02-17 Thread Matthew McCann PE
Hi, Richard! Your right about colloidal silver being made with a colloidal mill in the early 20th Century. But other methods were in use too. The 1939 book Chemicals Of Commerce, Volume IV, by Cornelia and Foster Snell mention mild protein silver (MPS) and silver proteinate used as an antiseptic

Re: CS[Fwd: Re: Measurements] rude private emails from Jack Dayton

2004-02-17 Thread Jan Stoeten
No matter what, Laughter is still the best medicine, Thanks for all the best medicine. All the best, Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands - Original Message - From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 4:37 AM Subject: Re: CS[Fwd: Re:

CSWide anode DC

2004-02-17 Thread Matthew McCann PE
Hi, Jan! Thanks for asking for a clarification. I intended that the flat spiral of silver wire would be inside the vessel, not outside. The vertical lead would also be inside and rise up and out of the DW and over the lip of the vessel where it would be connected to the power supply by an

Re: CSThe Last Great Race

2004-02-17 Thread bob smith
Some time back there was an account posted of a group of British mountain climbers being caught in a storm while climbing Mt. Everest, One of them was critically ill with a high fever. One of the group took a flashlight battery and a silver medallion he was wearing and fashioned a crude

CSThe Last Great Race

2004-02-17 Thread Matthew McCann PE
Hi, Bob! Wow! That's a great anecdote. I always carry a pair of silver dimes with perforations with me whenever I go into remote areas or foreign countries, just in case. DW can be gotten by collecting dew on a plastic sheet hanging on a laundry line. Of course, in the Himalayas one can always

Re: CSWide anode DC

2004-02-17 Thread Jan Stoeten
Hi, Matthew, Thanks ever so much for the clarification. Really appreciate the lightning response! All the best, Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands - Original Message - From: Matthew McCann PE To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:37 AM Subject: CSWide

Re: CScs water tested

2004-02-17 Thread bob smith
Unfortunatly for us Bob Berger took a temporary (we hope) leave from the list. In his last post, he said he would continue to test samples of EIS. His e-mail address is bober...@swbell.netBob Smith - Original Message - From: Lynda Khula To: silver-list@eskimo.com

CSMarshall; was: RE: CSChelation

2004-02-17 Thread Vince Richter
Hi Marshal, You got my attention. Next month I go to get my last 4 of 12 amalgam fillings out Yea, Yea!. I went to the Extreme Health herbal Chelation site and was impressed with their product combined with your recommendation. How much did you use of their Chelation product and for how

CSCalcium/Notmilk.com

2004-02-17 Thread TJ Garland
Human ratios. Maybe www.notmilk.com will convince you. TJ Garland, CMO supplier there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people. From: Wayne Fugitt wfug...@direcway.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPhosphorous / Also Silver

Re: CSThe Last Great Race

2004-02-17 Thread Mary Lou Borgert
on 2/17/04 12:30 PM, Richard Harris at yr...@cfl.rr.com wrote: You mentioned gatorade is this the liquid or dry form. If it is liquid how much dry does one use. thanks mary Hi Matthew and Garnet, We need to remember that CS is a Gift from God, but ideally is used in conjunction with other

Re: CSEmailing: ANS00971

2004-02-17 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Life Extension Foundation has, in recent years, won a major First Amendment victory over the FDA, which sought to preclude LEF from providing links to peer-reviewed articles that clearly indicated a variety of health benefits from using products available at lef.org. I do not know all the

Re: CSThe Last Great Race

2004-02-17 Thread bob smith
Mike, Believe me, I was spell bound when I read it. Since reading it I have poured that story into the ear of anyone who would listen. In fact I held a group spellbound with it at a recent V.I.P. birthday party. So it well may become an urban legend. If you haven't already written some

RE: CSsinus congestion

2004-02-17 Thread Sharon
Thora- Probiotics work, if you buy yogurt make sure it says active cultures on the container. If you are desperate for itch relief put it right on the site, but eat plenty too. Or, If you are allergic to milk like my dd, take an acidopholous supplement. It works. I can attest to it

CSCS and stomach cancer

2004-02-17 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
List, A friend passed away from stomach cancer a few days ago. It was a profoundly moving and graceful death coming six months after the diagnosis.I have a few things to say that may be useful to list members. 1) I have no idea whether CS would have been of any use; the young woman

CSInternet Censorship not possible?

2004-02-17 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Jan, Yours is a generous offer, and it makes clear that in the long run, efforts to keep the public in the dark about legitimate health claims are not likely to succeed. However, it is my observation that the FDA has been able to do some arm-twisting in nearby Canada, and it may be that

Re: CSWater filter?

2004-02-17 Thread TJ Garland
Right. I forgot to mention that I sprayed it into the buckets thru a shower head. TJ Garland, CMO supplier there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people. From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:

Re: CSCS and stomach cancer

2004-02-17 Thread The Hatzfeld's
Jonathan - I'm sorry for your loss. I hope you find answers to your questions. One thing to know about traditional doctors, as in the case of a friend of ours who has multiple health problems and he is currently being treated by an Oncologist. When I gently suggested green tea has been used to

CSWater Ozonator info needed

2004-02-17 Thread SilverTedEBear
I'm thinking about buying a water ozonator but most of the ones I've seen are just too expensive for me... $270 and up... ie: SOTA. After a little research I came across this unit for $119: http://www.therabreath.com/products.asp?FID=6PID=128 Does anyone know anything about this unit or have

Re: CSFood Poisoning

2004-02-17 Thread TJ Garland
One better. I always take a good swig before I eat anyone's cooking but mine. TJ Garland, CMO supplier there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people. From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:

Re: CSCS and stomach cancer

2004-02-17 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Cindy, Thanks for your reply. In this case, the doctors were remarkably open to any effective methodology, though they clearly had little hope; they forbade nothing, and in fact made a point of getting Cysplatin, at my friend's request. That drug is used in England, his country, but

Re: CSsinus congestion

2004-02-17 Thread Hastings Brakes
Dear list, I have an 18 year old nephew who is afflicted with a terrible body odour, particularly at night, his mother has to wash his sheets every day. He has been on antifungal mediction, Lamasil, plus other antibiotics, as he has an acne problem. He currently is on no medication. Would CS

Re: CSWater Ozonator info needed

2004-02-17 Thread William Meyer
a quick perusal of the link showed no details of the actual ozonator. if you get details it could be examined. i don't believe there is a free lunch with such a cheap ozonator. ozone can be produced with different systems, but they all have strengths and weaknesses. at this price point i would

Re: CSWater filter?

2004-02-17 Thread William Meyer
hmmm. that certainly is an aerator, the question is weather there needs to be additional time after aeration for the oxidation to take place. neet idea. On Feb 17, 2004, at 9:32 PM, TJ Garland wrote: Right. I forgot to mention that I sprayed it into the buckets thru a shower head. TJ

Re: CSFood Poisoning

2004-02-17 Thread Wayne Fugitt
At 09:59 PM 2/17/04 -0500, you wrote: One better. I always take a good swig before I eat anyone's cooking but mine. So, you think your food is immune? I thought most of it came in with the food. Honestly, I never worry about it. I thought the nitrates, saliva, and enzymes, plus HCL

Re: CSCS and stomach cancer

2004-02-17 Thread TJ Garland
Did he look at IPT- insulin potentation therapy? -- Doses of insulin with very small doses of chemo. Maybe we should all have an annual AMAS test. Does anyone know the lab cost? TJ Garland, CMO supplier there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people. From: Jonathan B.

Re: CSsinus congestion

2004-02-17 Thread TJ Garland
Lots of CS-- especially in a topical mixture with DMSO or aloe to take it into the skin. Do a colon cleanse on him. Put him on the www.feingold.org diet. TJ Garland, CMO supplier there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people. From: Hastings Brakes h...@bigpond.net.au

Re: CSWater filter?

2004-02-17 Thread TJ Garland
This also allowed the SO2 to evaporate off. The setup was a 120 ft. well in Oklahoma rock. I pumped the water with a solar pump thru PVC into the aeroater- into the buckets suspended in the 18 opening of a 2000 gal plastic, above ground cistern. I added a gal of CS to the cistern monthly and

Re: CSFood Poisoning

2004-02-17 Thread TJ Garland
Wayne -I am still recovering from an old Gulf War mycoplasma fermentens infection. I am TJ Garland, CMO supplier there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people. From: Wayne Fugitt wfug...@direcway.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:

Re: CSsinus congestion

2004-02-17 Thread Jan Stoeten
Hello John, I was just on my way to bed when I noticed your plea. I've been battling an all-out war against systemic Candida infection for the last two years, having unknowingly had it for about 15 years, according to one alternative doctor in Canada. I can tell you what has and what is

Re: CSFood Poisoning

2004-02-17 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Wayne -I am still recovering from an old Gulf War mycoplasma fermentens infection. I am I have studied that a bit and became concerned. I had a mycoplasma test a year or so ago. ( negative on the few types they tested for, likely a worthless test ) Can you tell us more about it,

RE: CSCS and stomach cancer

2004-02-17 Thread Jan Abel
The AMAS test costs $135.oo. It has been this price since 1999. A great buy! Jannette From: TJ Garland [mailto:goldenok...@hotmail.com] Maybe we should all have an annual AMAS test. Does anyone know the lab cost? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal

Re: CSWide anode DC

2004-02-17 Thread Peter Mann
A flat spiral is a configuration that Tesla used to magnify/focus electromagnetic field. If used with an ac power supply, unexpected high-voltage phenomena may result. Jan Stoeten wrote: The idea of spiralling for greater surface area I find remarkably innovative. Making the initial spiral by

CSThe AMAS test for cancer

2004-02-17 Thread patriot2000
From Bill Henderson's Cure Your Cancer Newsletter: The destruction of the tumor cells leaves evidence in the blood serum which can be measured by means of the AMAS test. Since this cell destruction is normal, the evidence is always present in a healthy person's body. High readings of the residue

CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2004 #168

2004-02-17 Thread Hanneke
I called up the archives to look up a few things but the most recent date that shows up is 2nd of February. Any input as to how I can go through more recent threads? Hanneke ~ Australia